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is one hour not enough to answer this ?
On October 03 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. Can you answer my request I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT Yes or no ? If no, what is it pointing at ? AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then
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On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?
Can medics heal themselves?
OK this question has to come from a newbie. The medic one.
But coolTLname has slipped two times he knew the people playing:
On September 30 2015 05:57 coolTLname wrote:
being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion
Implying there are more experienced players in the game than GB and I. And that is the case: marv, rayn, rsoultin ...
On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets". this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece. On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread. i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way. On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum; 1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..  3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch. On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival. Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game. I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute. I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him. Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw. I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now. Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread?
Implying he knows GB is known for not reading the thread, something even I, who is not a newbie anymore, was not aware of.
So he knows who some of the players are. And he isn't a smurf, as confirmed by rsoultin and LS.
So that means he is a lurker reader: someone who has read some games here, but doesn't post or play. That would explain how he knows things about GB, me, and the players more experiences than the both of us.
So if he is a lurker reader, he should know than medic cannot heal themselves. This question is an attempt at appearing newbie so mistakes can be excused.
coolTLname is mafia.
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Read marv's filter and here are the reads I got. I was super hard to understand his thoughts as he was super vague about them last night; so if you spot a mistake please correct it.
Town: rayn, Damdred.
Maybe town: LS.
Maybe scum: Shining, coolTLname.
Not definite reads:
Maybe scum: rsoultin, Rels, Trfel, GB, sicklucker.
All of these apart from rsoultin and sicklucker comes from this post:
On October 01 2015 06:32 marvellosity wrote:
the fact of the matter is, there are townies hard-defending mafia all over the place here and it makes it very hard to parse a lynch. of any sort.
On October 01 2015 06:32 marvellosity wrote:
e.g. trfel/shining/gb/rels
But we don't really know where he stand at night. He kinda rescinded his Trfel's scumread:
On October 02 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 00:35 Trfel wrote:On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia
post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?
it really makes no sense at all to me There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do. As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia. the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh. I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length..... You do realize that you are my top townread, right? i didn't. i guess i'm going mad. oh well.
He kinda rescinded his rsoultin's scumread:
On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD
He said nothing about GB.
He said this about me:
On October 01 2015 18:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 14:22 Trfel wrote:
I don't know about Rels. Sometimes he seems reasonable, but I feel that he lacks thread presence. Which is strange because he actually has a fairly long filter. And some of his posts I remember thinking were very unreasonable. I need to figure out why I don't feel much thread presence from him, it may just be that he's being covered up by marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, and rsoultin, or there may be a more interesting reason.
i kinda feel this also, but don't really know if i should be making anything of it
The sicklucker's maybe scumread comes from this:
On October 01 2015 07:00 marvellosity wrote:i'd throw trfel in there
So the only person missing is Moosy. Not much infos appart from the fact that he voted him early in the day.
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Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.
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On October 03 2015 03:14 sicklucker wrote:
marv only mentioned me as scum for a breif moment where he thought i was trying to save scott at eod. So saying marv had anything but a town read on me is disinformation
all the people in the "not definite reads" category have super weak reasonning. I did what I could with what I had. Didn't see him say anything about a townread on you N1
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On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.
that would make sense
Can you answer my request ?
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EDIT BEFORE POST: I don't think Trfel is mafia. These two posts are super logical, yet he is not pushing for my lynch, just stating what he doesn't like in them.
On October 02 2015 06:21 Trfel wrote:Rels, because you asked, this post is probably the clearest example of a post that doesn't make sense from you. I already showed why most of LightningStrike's posts that you quoted clearly do not support the point that you say they do. Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 17:23 Rels wrote:GB making joke posts is weird 'cause his first post was serious. Let me check that. On September 29 2015 07:07 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version) As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background. I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it. But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it. I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music. I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking). Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs. One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece  ): TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched! Jesus I already want to kynch you LS :/ OK maybe I thought this post was serious when it wasn't. @GB was your first post serious ? Also this post, it would make much more sense to ask GlowingBear first, and then draw any conclusions after, if necessary. Assuming that the goal is to find scum, Rels is hoping to catch GlowingBear. So the right way to do it is to figure out what GlowingBear's intent was and then find out if it is scummy or not, and the wrong way to do it is to say "Hey, GlowingBear, were you doing A or B? FYI if you say A, then I think that's scummy." Because then mafia!GlowingBear can just say B and then you get nowhere. I guess I should probably look at bigger-picture stuff, that would be much more effective. I'll try to do that tonight if I can, otherwise tomorrow.
I don't agree with the first link, otherwise I wouldn't have made this post. LS was the most try hard player at the time. But you showed me why your opinion was different, so your "LS do something about it" makes sense.
About GB, you're wrong, I didn't think I would catch him, 'cause rereading his first post I thought it was a joke. I was super surprised to see him answer it was actually a serious post, 'cause the "good" answer for me to townread him based on my question would be to affirm it was a joke post. But him answering the "bad" answer (and the truth if he is town) made him a little less likely to be mafia. It's a super small thing though.
On October 02 2015 06:27 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 18:36 Rels wrote:
seriously though, mafia rayn was super obvious in the game I played with him. He's said he had a bad game 'cause no time, but he was tunneling geript as scum, then sheep geript's read on me when it was convenient for me. Maybe he will fool me one day, but for now I'm pretty sure I can read rayn (= This just doesn't feel like a town post..... "Hey, there's this player who everyone says is really good at mafia. I caught him once when he was playing badly, but I'm not going to be scared of him at all until he fools me. He must be a really easy read, even though everyone says otherwise." Rels strikes me as a more practical player than someone who I would expect to make this post. Maybe I'm just attributing a different playstyle/thought process to Rels than what he actually uses as town, though.... I guess I'll restart later and be more open-minded.
I wasn't aware everyone saying he is really good at mafia. I played one game with him, and within the ~10 posts he did there was a inconstancy, created by him following the mafia plan instead of his earlier reads. This is supported by the fact that he hates bussing and doesn't do it unless necessary: THIS is what I know everyone saying about mafia rayn. With this mindset of following mafia plan and not busing, he has to be inconsistent sooner or later, which he never is as town.
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On October 03 2015 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In that game i actually switched my read on geript for a reason. I just never had time to explain it and i didn't even care about the game at all. I am not that bad as mafia Rels, i don't "contradict myself" like that without any reason.
But that's not relevant.
Oh. Then the only reliable way to read you is to see if you're leading push on mafia, since you hate busing.
(that doesn't interest anyone else but I would really like to know the "reason" for your switch)
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On October 03 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, marv can easily catch me on D1 because i make "less sense" then i am supposed to.
I don't know how he does it but he does. If i knew, he obviously could not be able to do it.
And when i am scum i literally just don't care. At all.
I can attest to that. Yes in the personality game you replaced in and had internet problems, so that can explain your low post count; but after you entered the thread, you made an handful of posts and gtfo.
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On October 03 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 04:16 Rels wrote:
(that doesn't interest anyone else but I would really like to know the "reason" for your switch) And that doesn't really matter anything because i was obviously "right" since geript was not mafia. You will not learn anything about it and i can't make myself find it because i don't remember anything about that game, except for when i read the game before i replaced in my scumreads were genuinely you and geript. So even that part was not a lie..
maybe it made sense in your head, but it was scummy as fuck. I mean, you were lynched over the fucking jester p:
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On October 03 2015 15:09 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 13:47 Trfel wrote:
Okay, I think it maybe about time I start trying to think about who to lynch. One hour and 22 minutes later, he starts to catch up on the thread XD
Around if you want to talk about stuff
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On October 03 2015 05:22 coolTLname wrote:so i posted this after my can doc heals themselves question Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 11:16 sicklucker wrote:On September 29 2015 17:08 coolTLname wrote:
Uh anyway i've been looking at sicklurker. For some reason i thought he was blue but hes been spewing tons of nonsense, he claims hes "drinking" and he seems sad i guess, but even more reason to post something meaningful .. @_@
marvelous would be mafia if hes good in other games, i guess i should check. role hunting 101 I think mafia is more likely to notice this , and it appears my dumbtell worked (although maybe a little too well =( ) Anyways i was hoping to get shot by pretending to be medic lol
That's your explanation for asking a dumb question you should know the answer ? I don't believe it, especially since you repeated it several times.
How is mafia more likely to spot blue hunting ? And it's weird you're not denying that what you were doing
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On October 03 2015 15:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 15:18 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 15:09 Trfel wrote:On October 03 2015 13:47 Trfel wrote:
Okay, I think it maybe about time I start trying to think about who to lynch. One hour and 22 minutes later, he starts to catch up on the thread XD Around if you want to talk about stuff Sure, I'd love to! How long are you staying up for? It'll probably take me a while until I have anything to talk about 
Until this afternoon so at least 4-5 hours
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On October 03 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
scummy
rels - while i like that he seemed to evaluate me just fine and with a particular neutrality, i have a very big problem with his reason for scumreading cool, not to mention his pissing off and placing his vote on a random player not being voted and not returning until much later. his original reasons weren't bad, but now he's focused on this horrible he's not really a newbie thing, he's actually a smurf cause of what he said about gb not reading the thread? cool never said that. moreover the "knowing" gb thing is bad as well, given cool's explanation was fine. rels could not believe it, but someone as intelligent as he is i would think would be pushing cool for much more relevant reasons (and they do exist)
I don't understand this. My original reasons still exist, even if among those the only strong one is the different subjects in one post. But I've found something inconsistent ; him asking a dumb question about medic when he should know better. In other words, dumb telling. Now he explained this by saying he tried to subtly claim medic to attract a shot. Do you really believe it ?
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Don't agree on coolTLname, and I'm suspicious of moosy and shining
CoolTLname has made a dumb tell that he knows proclaims to be intentional. If he was town he would have seen that it is obvious its weird. Only a mafia could think maybe this could be believable
Moosy tried to steal credit for being the first to vote and to push me. I might have spotted another contradiction but he s not answering my question, so I'm waiting for that to go further
Shining because it was the only really different read between rayn and Marv, if you don't count the "not definite reads" Marv had at night. So nk may indicate he s mafi. Plus I agree with whoever he s not doing much apart from talking about coolTLname. I didn't read his filter though so I need to do that
Still in my bed though so ask if you need more details; I'll do it when I get up and get to my pc :p
I m super interested by your reads on moosy and shining
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Moosy tried to steal credit for being the first to vote and to push coolTLname*
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On October 03 2015 15:50 Trfel wrote:Several of coolTLname's posts seem to show a town thought process, even if they don't arrive at the same conclusions that I would. Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote:
he even claimed roleblocker night 1 , btw. And damdred is roleblocked all of a sudden.
so i guess my onnly real read is GB right now. And whoever said i was role hunting 101 with the "can medics heal themselves" question is my #2 suspect Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote:
because mafia would be thinking.. Hey is this guy actually the medic?? so they would notice that post These posts, for example.
I don't agree
About the first quote: the rb shit is a townie thought. The role hunting thought is not. Why would someone accusing of role hunting be mafia ? I don't follow the town reasoning here
About the second quote: I really don't believe anyone as town could think a bait like that could work. It is so obvious. Plus I think he s a lurker reader, and that would makes this even worse; but people don't seem to believe. Even with the assumption he s newbie, this medic bait is just so obvious I don't believe he would do it as town wanting to take a bullet. I think it is more likely he is a mafia trying to be a townie trying to take a bullet; because in this double mindset situation, the fact that this medic claim is so obvious is not a visible.
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On October 03 2015 15:53 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 15:48 Rels wrote:
Don't agree on coolTLname, and I'm suspicious of moosy and shining
CoolTLname has made a dumb tell that he knows proclaims to be intentional. If he was town he would have seen that it is obvious its weird. Only a mafia could think maybe this could be believable
Moosy tried to steal credit for being the first to vote and to push me. I might have spotted another contradiction but he s not answering my question, so I'm waiting for that to go further
Shining because it was the only really different read between rayn and Marv, if you don't count the "not definite reads" Marv had at night. So nk may indicate he s mafi. Plus I agree with whoever he s not doing much apart from talking about coolTLname. I didn't read his filter though so I need to do that
Still in my bed though so ask if you need more details; I'll do it when I get up and get to my pc :p
I m super interested by your reads on moosy and shining What was this specific dumb tell that you refer to about coolTLname? I may not have gotten to it yet, but if there's one that's more significant than the others, it would be nice if you could point out which one. To me, the night kill is best explained as mafia trying to clear out the thread leadership. I didn't feel like marvellosity had many strong reads. But marvellosity is clearly the leader, raynpelikoneet would likely follow him in the end. One thing is that raynpelikoneet was constantly insisting that rsoultin and coolTLname are town, and marvellosity wasn't. That is another possible reason that marvellosity would be night killed, probably a much more likely one than The Shining being the reason. I'll let you know when I have more.
I'm talking about the "can medic shoot at night?" Question from his early posts
Rayn insisted that rsoultin and coolTLname were town ? He was saying that cool was town at deadline, and I think he reversed this read at night. Will check the exact timing.
Rayn never insisted that rsoultin was town I think ?
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On October 03 2015 16:02 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 16:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 15:53 Trfel wrote:On October 03 2015 15:48 Rels wrote:
Don't agree on coolTLname, and I'm suspicious of moosy and shining
CoolTLname has made a dumb tell that he knows proclaims to be intentional. If he was town he would have seen that it is obvious its weird. Only a mafia could think maybe this could be believable
Moosy tried to steal credit for being the first to vote and to push me. I might have spotted another contradiction but he s not answering my question, so I'm waiting for that to go further
Shining because it was the only really different read between rayn and Marv, if you don't count the "not definite reads" Marv had at night. So nk may indicate he s mafi. Plus I agree with whoever he s not doing much apart from talking about coolTLname. I didn't read his filter though so I need to do that
Still in my bed though so ask if you need more details; I'll do it when I get up and get to my pc :p
I m super interested by your reads on moosy and shining What was this specific dumb tell that you refer to about coolTLname? I may not have gotten to it yet, but if there's one that's more significant than the others, it would be nice if you could point out which one. To me, the night kill is best explained as mafia trying to clear out the thread leadership. I didn't feel like marvellosity had many strong reads. But marvellosity is clearly the leader, raynpelikoneet would likely follow him in the end. One thing is that raynpelikoneet was constantly insisting that rsoultin and coolTLname are town, and marvellosity wasn't. That is another possible reason that marvellosity would be night killed, probably a much more likely one than The Shining being the reason. I'll let you know when I have more. I'm talking about the "can medic shoot at night?" Question from his early posts Rayn insisted that rsoultin and coolTLname were town ? He was saying that cool was town at deadline, and I think he reversed this read at night. Will check the exact timing. Rayn never insisted that rsoultin was town I think ? Mafia, mafia, mafia... Town = mafia Maybe I should go to sleep....
Oh that makes sense :p
Yeah rayn had stronger scumread on rsoultin and coolTLname. But I think Marv was scumreading them both too. A little hard to know when he was so vague at night, but
OK fuck it. Explaining without quote is shit, wait a minute I'm getting up
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lol
I agree that it's a bus and it's weird, actually that's why I switched off him last night. But I'm pretty sure he said several times now he wouldn't bother coming back, and if that's the case your argument is flawed
wait a minute I will quote some things
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