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On September 17 2015 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote: I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly. okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die? Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline  okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1? I didn't assume Damdred is town is Angel saves work if the people don't get soup killed? If we lycnh mafia on D1 are they gonna angel save me when mafia kills me?
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On September 17 2015 05:46 LightningStrike wrote: So with the soup being a night think only and if they use the soup over the kp than we can have the Grail on a Town leader(rayn). If the person who got the Grail dies it leaves the game. what he fuck you just wanted someone who is NOT going to die to have it-....
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On September 17 2015 05:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:46 LightningStrike wrote: So with the soup being a night think only and if they use the soup over the kp than we can have the Grail on a Town leader(rayn). If the person who got the Grail dies it leaves the game. what he fuck you just wanted someone who is NOT going to die to have it-.... I most likely not going to killed unless I dead right on someone's alignment and they see me as the biggest threat but I doubt that myself.We could potentally give it to FF because he normally lives very long despite the fact he got a high winrate if he lives in a long game(idk why most people let him live later in the games lol) see, you do it again..... maybe you are jsut mafia.
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On September 17 2015 06:01 Fidei86 wrote: The Shining looks pretty good on his thread re-entry. I think lying about something as personal as anger management and losing friendships would be tough, and probably not worth it just to win a mafia game. unless you are Blazinghand.
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maybe give Damdred another day. ##unvote ##DeadlineVote LightningStrike
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I also really really want geript to have the grail for reasons.
I believe there is exactly two mafia in LightningStrike and TickTok. However my read on TT has been terrible in the game i was with him, so i am not completely sure of that.
Damdred is basically begging a cop check so i don't think the lynch on him is a good idea. I also think the cop should check him because we either get a red, or we get a really good townie (if he can be trusted to be town).
Dandel might be mafia here, i am not sure, i don't really see anyone else being scum outside these four people. I believe HtS to be town and i believe she is right on James if she is town (well she probably would not lie even if she was mafia sooo).
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And for the record this is a game where directing cop checks is allowed. There are several reasons; 1) cop should claim whenever they have red. if you direct a cop check and have no claim you know you have a green check without the cop claiming - there is no GF and no roleblocker, nothing makes the checks unreliable and they always go through 2) If mafia wants to kill a scummy player, please, go ahead, it makes town's life easier  3) there are roles that benefit from knowing if someone visits a certain person. well one role, but still.
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On September 17 2015 16:59 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:On September 17 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote: I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly. okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die? Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline  okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1? I didn't assume Damdred is town is Angel saves work if the people don't get soup killed? If we lycnh mafia on D1 are they gonna angel save me when mafia kills me? they're going to have to kill vivax, no? probably yes. there are two things that one of them will probably happen if we get a cop check on Damdred. 1) we lynch mafia on d1 - mafia will kill either vivax or damdred (if he is town). oracle will visit damdred aswell. if they kill vivax and the cop does not claim, we know damdred is green. good. if damdred dies, we know the guy we lynched D1 is red. 2) we lynch town on D1 - cop checks damdred. oracle will visit damdred aswell. the angel (dead townie) should protect damdred. mafia cannot kill damdred because he won't die. They are basically forced to shoot vivax. if the cop doesn't claim on D2 we know we have green.
In both of the scenarios we get the most information out of the lynched players alignment (without the oracle - who knows that for sure - outing anything). In both scenarios we are, at worst, on D2 with a confirmed town still alive, in best case scenario, we have a dead scum, and another outed scum.
It is literally the best play. And i want Damdred to be checked because he is definitely the most capable player from Dandel/him/LS/TT. If he is not mafia he is actually valuable, more than any other of those players.
And i think everyone else is town.
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On September 17 2015 17:06 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Can someone who knows Shining confirm or deny this ? If this is a lie, Damdred's read is super fake. Shining already explained this and he is town anyways. if you think shining is town then damdred has to be mafia (pretty much) because damdred has been claiming a meta read on shining (saying shining is maf) which i dont think he would do if they were both town no that's not necessarily true.
Damdred's meta-read on him is based on old information. Shining is playing differently and that's why Damdred is calling him mafia. But there is a reason why Shining is playing differently, as he explained.
Like Damdred's read on Shining can come from both alignments, it's just NAI.
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On September 17 2015 17:03 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 03:34 Fecalfeast wrote: Who is the best mayor candidate i don't see much talk of that. If rayn is town and playing this strongly and gets the grail wont he just be NK bait? he's already NK bait after they get rid of Vivax Mafia knows Vivax can be angelic protected and use his save on Rayn which would result in 2 town being saved and then night 2 when one of them gets angelic protected they're at best at 3 kills on n3 I don't think you understand how this works. Mafia can EITHER night kill OR soup. Soup cannot be protected. So if mafia kills Vivax with soup (why wouldn't thay if they want to kill him?) he cannot be protected, and mafia cannot kill another player the same night (unless ofc they wanna continue souping).
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Okay i have to go travel now. I will be back when on my phone when i have done the check-in in harbor.
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LS i believe is mafia for several reasons.
His opening. Geript is definiteky right about his meta. Also see the next point. I talked about this earlier.
LS has really hard time lying as mafia. Here he does things that are scummy when not explained. When people ask him to ezplain, instead of laying out his thought process he takes a re-route and talks about something distantly related to the matter (see for example the GB stuff - that jhas nothing to do with what geript said because gb is NEVER a town leader even when he is "leading"). Also see the part where i ask his grail vote.
Sorry for bad explanation. I am on phone and posting on phone is shit.
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On September 17 2015 18:44 Rels wrote: About the grail: I would prefer TT to have it, but ff is a good holder if he s town. My problem is that I'm not convinced he s town, but a lot of people thinks so. I prefer tt but I would vote ff over geript. Actually I will if my vote is a decider. What the fucking fuck rels?????
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Oh you know iahve drunk some. How?
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No no no. It does not matter. You are mafia.
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Is there a red check? If not i am gonna assune damdred is cinfirmed town. If you are a cop and didnt listen to me then just... fuck you.
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Guys that lynch was realky fucking dumb.
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On September 19 2015 18:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Guys that lynch was realky fucking dumb. Easy to say that in retrospect no it was really stupid because the dude fucking claimed the only role that should claim if being lynched.... idk.. maybe i go reread and just see who was there and not unvote and lynch the fuck out of them.
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nvm he claimed at the deadline. let's kill LS now okay?
at least we can lynch scum today.
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On September 19 2015 18:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 19 2015 18:33 Rels wrote:On September 19 2015 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Guys that lynch was realky fucking dumb. Easy to say that in retrospect no it was really stupid because the dude fucking claimed the only role that should claim if being lynched.... idk.. maybe i go reread and just see who was there and not unvote and lynch the fuck out of them. reread the timestamps he claimed exactly at deadline yeah i got that, the timestamps on new TL are fucking horrible. i hate those. i hate the new design as whole...
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