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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 17 2015 22:00 GMT
#1065
Sigh I guess shannies weren't happening at all and ended up changing my vote for nothing....
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 18 2015 22:23 GMT
#1072
On September 18 2015 06:59 Rels wrote:
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On September 18 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I don't fully understand your second sentence.

Look at his filter - what do you make of his responses to Rels and myself

Or what do you think of Rels' case?

When I said look at his filter I meant about the timing of his posts about me and correlation of me being a hot topic at that time.

That doesn't answer the fucking question

I was rather confused by the wording of the post at the time. I felt his responses to you and HTS were okay but meh I should prob check his past games and see how he acts as both alignment.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 18 2015 22:24 GMT
#1073
On September 19 2015 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
So that was painful. 3 dead towns is pretty sad for day 2

You sure all 3 of them were town? Some thought Shining was scum tbh.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 18 2015 22:46 GMT
#1074
Anyone here? I would like to talk to anyone now!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 18 2015 22:56 GMT
#1075
Btw if you got a red check Claim it ASAP but if you got a green check don't say anything about the green check!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 11:34 GMT
#1118
On September 19 2015 14:06 Tictock wrote:
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On September 19 2015 07:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 19 2015 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
So that was painful. 3 dead towns is pretty sad for day 2

You sure all 3 of them were town? Some thought Shining was scum tbh.


Did you think he was scum?

I had him null might recheck later to see if I get something different.

On September 19 2015 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nvm he claimed at the deadline.
let's kill LS now okay?

at least we can lynch scum today.

I will claim if it means to save myself here but I wont claim until like 2 hours EoD if I got the majority of the votes.


On September 19 2015 18:56 Vivax wrote:
The issue is that so far I've read LS correctly in every game I was town in and when I read his filter in this one it doesn't really stick out to me. Maybe he's gotten better but I certainly haven't gotten worse.

Thank you for believing I am town this game and no you haven't gotten worse it just you are one of the few people who can read me correctly when you are town

On September 19 2015 19:03 Rels wrote:
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On September 19 2015 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:59 Rels wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I don't fully understand your second sentence.

Look at his filter - what do you make of his responses to Rels and myself

Or what do you think of Rels' case?

When I said look at his filter I meant about the timing of his posts about me and correlation of me being a hot topic at that time.

That doesn't answer the fucking question

I was rather confused by the wording of the post at the time. I felt his responses to you and HTS were okay but meh I should prob check his past games and see how he acts as both alignment.

I don't understand this. When asked to say anything about TT LS focus on what TT said about him. When asked to say what he thinks abuot Dandel LS focus on what Dandel said about him.

I didn't say much about Dandel and thought he was just a troll. I only swap to him because I thought you guys were going to shanni to me and hammered Dandel to stop any shannie at the time.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 11:36 GMT
#1120
On September 19 2015 19:12 Rels wrote:
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On September 19 2015 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 19 2015 19:05 Rels wrote:
rayn. Explanation please

if you are town and believe i am town and geript is town you lynch LS over Dandel 10 times out of 10.

easy to say that now. Dandel was fucking scummy. And I was right; I said he was mafia or grandier. I would have voted LS if Dandel would have claimed or explained his fucking Shining scumread
easy to say that too when you townread LS at some point during the day. I still have doubt on him 'cause, like you, I thought his attitude when he was being pushed was genuinely emotionnal. Now it may be fake, and I think he's mafia now, especially with the geript kill

I honestly would never kill geript I don't think of him highly as a player even with the Holy Grail on him I would of killed Rayn 10/10 just because Rayn is a much better player than Geript.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 11:38 GMT
#1121
On September 19 2015 20:34 Vivax wrote:
Okay need reads from LS ASAP cause he didn't seem to have anyone as scum when Dandel was getting lynched. Only some thoughts about filter diving tick tock but there's not really a conclusion and he answers a question from FF on who should get the grail.

So the worst thing I can find atm is his lack of scumreads.

Ugh I had Damdred as scum and I still think he's scum honestly. I finding the Geript kill weird because he not exactly a good player compared to Rayn. Even with the Holy Grail I thought they would kill off Rayn but they didn't.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 18:57 GMT
#1130
On September 19 2015 22:26 Fidei86 wrote:
Also, I find LS' defence super unconvincing. I've seen a lot of scum try and move the conversation into "why did that person die". NK WIFOM is pretty meh. And even if you wouldn't have killed him, the other Mafia could have.

LS what was your read on geript before he died?

Scum but now I have him town because he was NK'd.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 18:59 GMT
#1131
On September 20 2015 03:44 Half the Sky wrote:
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On September 20 2015 03:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
The deadlinevote leader was damdred until people switched to dandel. This makes me think damdred is a good chance of being a hit.


I personally think shining was super town but that isn't confirmed i guess so maybe dandel has god reads but i doubt it.


I looked at the VCAs, the latter voters (LS!!!) really stand a good chance of being mafia, plus those who really drove the Dandel lynch (probably at the beginning). Preliminary thoughts here.

So for you to make this conclusion you imply that someone was "protecting" damdred to do this or driving the lynch off him.

Am I correct? If not, what are you really saying so I'm not misunderstanding?

The reason I thought was that he'd be DT checked, and I trusted rayn on the mechanics. So I really don't understand.

I not scum HTS I really thought people were going to shannie to me because said they would so I changed my vote for self preservation on my part like I really want to live but if I have to die for you guys to figure out the scum team then I willing to die for that.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#1137
On September 20 2015 04:11 Half the Sky wrote:
LS

Here's the thing. People have made it clear you have trouble lying. I am making my best effort personally to flesh out the questions explicitly as I can as possible so I can get past the part where I know you cannot articulate yourself well. So the issue is that you are not particularly answering directly or not even asking me to clarify.

I am trying to work with you here based on all I know about you. But I'll be frank, you aren't making it easier, and I would expect some sort of pushback from you if you thought my questions were unclear (either alignment) or loaded (i.e. mafia motivated) or "out to get you" (like you pinged me out correctly in Newbie LX when I was mafia, and I used lynch all liars to get you mislynched) and so far I'm not seeing any of those responses.

The other points against you now are VCA and NK wifom, though the latter is weaker, it's not helping you at all.

I got a wall of text post coming up about my posts about Damdred but I going to say this before making that wall of text post about my position on Damdred over the game: I thought I had read some of the questions right the first I taking a Reading Class atm to work on my reading but then I saw post by rels where said I didn't answer the question and realized I misread it so I answered it when I quoted Rels. I only pinged you out in Newbie LX was because I knew and you knew that I wasn't capable of making a lot of posts as mafia at the time and you were misrepresenting me hard there when I got lynched in that game as VT.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 19:29 GMT
#1145
On September 19 2015 21:54 Vivax wrote:
you talk about a lot but only about damdred when you are asked? there doesnt seem to be much drive at all behind that scumread tbh.

Here was my posts regarding Damdred:
On September 15 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).

There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?

Remeber when I said I need to read the thread more carefully? Ya that exactly what happen I saw that you had me in a list but you were voting Shining. Damdred the last he was mafia he called me out when I was town very early in Gaiden 1 so I still having a little pause for now on him.

So in this first post I had about him I was unsure about him because of Gaiden 1 being my last game I had played before taking a break to do some hosting and cohosting stuff and Damdred had called me scum without much reason in Gaiden here is a quote from him from early Day 1 for his first thing about me being scum:
On July 06 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
Oh carp... ls why did you roll scum?

and here was Damdred first post about me being scum in this game:
On September 15 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
I might not mind a deadline ls vote tbh

Seems like the same attitude towards me in both of those two quotes.
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 15 2015 22:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me


I am taking three things into account.

1 I'm aware you aren't particularly articulate.

2 I'm aware of your mafia meta, I am also aware you've said you don't like playing mafia and have trouble being the bad guy (reference Witchcraft 3).

3 I'm also aware of what you are capable of when you ARE town. This is why I tried to break down Rels' position for you. That he's scumreading you NOT for being AFK, and whether you can realistically break that down to being a mafia motivated post.

I'm purposely ignoring the mechanics based on #1 and focusing more based on #6 in Rels post why you aren't answering the questions.

Also I get the meta references on your end but the LS rule is quite arbitrary regardless of your alignment. The people scumreading you - even if aggressive - ARE breaking down why you are mafia or what about you looks mafia.

So if you ignore Rels and Rayn (hypothetically) for just a second, who is mafia?

1. There was a reason I had Tina be my translator
2. I do have trouble playing as a bad guy because I simply don't like to lie and wasn't coached properly except in JOAT when I bussed the shit out of Sandroba without my team's permission but it got me enough town cred for end game.
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?
I was trying to the questions to the best of my abilities but he just understand me (pokes at Tina to translate stuff for Rels)
Damdred could be mafia for slacking off and doing any shit this entire game except calling me mafia in 1 post. Geript is a capable scum player you are correct on that and he coached me in JOAT and his wording seems very weird I agree with you there and the fact he asked rayn a little bit about me(I think I reading what you said in a earlier post) so he could be mafia for the weird wording about me. BTW I at college atmand I got some time before classes and will attempt to reread the thread now.

So in this post I went into details on why I was scumreading Damdred at that time.
On September 15 2015 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also to expand on Damdred he didn't post reaons why I could mafia and wasn't pushing me at all after he called me mafia.

This just added some more detail to my previous post about Damdred.
On September 16 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript?

Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it?

At that time Rayn asked me if I had other scumreads other than Geript which I said Damdred and went into detail on it.
On September 16 2015 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 05:02 The Shining wrote:
Dandel, pretend I'm dumb(which I am). So it IS just an OMGUS is what I got from the post. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Hi Bill. I feel like we've played together before but have never actually spoken. How are you today? XD Do you, Dandel or LS feel like commenting or asking anything about my catch up post?

LS, ok so misrepresentation and wording but by saying "if he's town", then I'm right in assuming you're not 100% sure he's scum? Can you answer my other question about who else you're suspicious about?

Damdred for not really doing much and he didn't explained his vote on me and left.

I gave a short answer to Shining about who else I was scumreading at the time other than Geript.
On September 16 2015 05:06 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:02 The Shining wrote:
Dandel, pretend I'm dumb(which I am). So it IS just an OMGUS is what I got from the post. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Hi Bill. I feel like we've played together before but have never actually spoken. How are you today? XD Do you, Dandel or LS feel like commenting or asking anything about my catch up post?

LS, ok so misrepresentation and wording but by saying "if he's town", then I'm right in assuming you're not 100% sure he's scum? Can you answer my other question about who else you're suspicious about?

Damdred for not really doing much and he didn't explained his vote on me and left.

Here a bigger I did regarding Damdred:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript?

Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it?


I quoted my bigger post for Shining to see so he can see my reasoning for Damdred being scum better.
On September 16 2015 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
Yeah I did agree with that and pretty much echoed it in my read of him, along with finding it strange that he'd claim he liked to think of himself as a strong town player and ask for the Grail but do nothing to prove it afterwards.

He is a good player by reputation but he playing really lackluster so far

Just a general comment about Damdred's play at the time.
On September 16 2015 06:52 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
ok rayn i made it
On September 15 2015 07:50 Damdred wrote:
I'd actually like the grail. While I like to think I'm a good town player for whatever reason I have a history of living late which is annoying but it is what it is.

So vote grail for me.


Damdred came in and made this big claim that he's a strong town player who lives really long and should get the grail. He then proceeds to make a weak post saying he's ok with a deadline lynch on ls for no real reason and fricks the heck off.

My impression of damdred this game is that he wanted to enter the game as a strong player, got overshadowed by rayn and wasn't up to trying any harder.

Maybe he'll come back and kick my ass but that doesn't sound like town damdy wamdy to me

^Agreed with you there.

Just a post agreeing with Fecalfeast about Damdred.
On September 17 2015 01:46 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly just want to lynch Damdred for the reasons why I scumreading him. Also I think Rayn should be the Grail holder since he is almost certainly town. I prob wont be around EoD because of class ends at Eo so Damdrd is my vote for today's lynch.
##Deadline Vote: Damdred
##Holy Grail Vote: Raynpelikoneet

Just me saying why I voting Damdred for deadline vote at the time and why Rayn should have the Grail at the time.
On September 17 2015 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 17 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1?

I didn't assume Damdred is town is Angel saves work if the people don't get soup killed?

Me responding to Rayn that I didn't think Damdred was town at the time and explaining the Angel mechanic.
On September 17 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 17 2015 05:59 Fidei86 wrote:
@LS you were on geript for quite a while, but now you've moved onto Damdred. Was it something geript did, or what? Because from my view, geript seemed to be carrying on in the same way he has for the last couple of days.

Damdred I ound to be much scummier.
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On September 17 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote:
Lol...

LS you said you were null on Tictock and that you'd be going back to reread his filter. Did you ever do that? Still null or ?

I still need to do it when I get home.

On September 17 2015 06:11 The Shining wrote:
I think I heard about that one. Didn't he lie about moving or something and provided pics and all?

Ya but he still got killed by JAT the Vig [/QUOTE]
Me saying to James(Fidei) why I was voting Damdred over Geript and me telling Shining I would check Ticktock's scum game if he got any(I will check this after this post) and me responding to the joke about what happened in that game about BH.
On September 19 2015 20:38 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 19 2015 20:34 Vivax wrote:
Okay need reads from LS ASAP cause he didn't seem to have anyone as scum when Dandel was getting lynched. Only some thoughts about filter diving tick tock but there's not really a conclusion and he answers a question from FF on who should get the grail.

So the worst thing I can find atm is his lack of scumreads.

Ugh I had Damdred as scum and I still think he's scum honestly. I finding the Geript kill weird because he not exactly a good player compared to Rayn. Even with the Holy Grail I thought they would kill off Rayn but they didn't.

Just me responding to Vivax about my scumreads that are alive(Damdred).
So TLDR version of this:
I had thought Damdred was scum for most of the game and made a good amount of posts about him.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 19:31 GMT
#1147
Also what is OGI? I heard that term before but never actually looked it up.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 19:35 GMT
#1149
On September 20 2015 04:32 Half the Sky wrote:
Outside of game information.

Basically there is information that I know about you irrespective of this game (namely your personal life) that is going to influence my read or how I interpret you.

Now I have to run.

Oh okay.
When you get back check out my big post.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 19 2015 21:28 GMT
#1154
On September 20 2015 06:13 Tictock wrote:
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On September 20 2015 04:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Me saying to James(Fidei) why I was voting Damdred over Geript and me telling Shining I would check Ticktock's scum game if he got any(I will check this after this post) and me responding to the joke about what happened in that game about BH.


This was posted about 2 hours ago.

If you are having trouble finding my only scum game (Holy Guardians) I might be willing to delve into the dark reaches of the Archives to dig it out for you.

I actually looked into the database after i had played a LoL game and you only got 1 scum game like you said and I had did a quick check on your other games and first note it seems like you're postier as scum in terms of posts per phase but I should check the content of those posts in a little bit to see what actually would make you mafia in that game over your town games. Also since I know a good amount of you guys play Dota 2 is better here is a nice little message from me about playing LoL instead of Dota 2:
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 00:19 GMT
#1158
Did anyone even read my long post about my Damdred throughout the game?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 00:59 GMT
#1161
On September 20 2015 09:44 Tictock wrote:
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On September 20 2015 09:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Did anyone even read my long post about my Damdred throughout the game?


I did, reminded me of the filter dive I did of you before EoD.

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On September 19 2015 07:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Btw if you got a red check Claim it ASAP but if you got a green check don't say anything about the green check!


No one has claimed a redcheck, so who else do you think is scum LS?

Idk quite honestly if I wrong on anyone could be James because I a huge sucker for people actually defend me when I get under fire he been kinda me focused I guess more than anyone filter % wise he wasn't talking much about anyone compared to me O_o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 01:44 GMT
#1162
Man every time I post the thread dies am I a natural thread killer or what's going on?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 12:38 GMT
#1253
You know what fuck it I don't even want to live the long game for my role to be useful because I would most likely be mislynched before it becomes good. I'm the POPE I was visted by Geript who is the WANDERING WRAITH I was wondering why the fuck I would get Night 1 check result from Palmar but it turned out the pm was that Geript visted me and he was the WANDERING WRAITH before he died so I know Geript is 100% town other than NK WIFOM but also because he was the WANDERING WRAITH because he visted me. Here is my obligatory picture of a pope:
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May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 12:43 GMT
#1266
Just letting you know Vivax you read was right the entire time and you haven't become shit.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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