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On September 15 2015 20:59 Half the Sky wrote: I'm town but not the martyr.
On September 15 2015 20:59 Half the Sky wrote: Swamped at work, so just started reading the thread.
No joke.
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On September 15 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:59 Half the Sky wrote: Afternoon everyone!
Swamped at work, so just started reading the thread. I'm town but not the martyr.
this is a really weird post. I find too Like here is the timeline: 1 - HTS starts to read the thread 2 - HTS sees that rayn wants the martyr to claim 3 - HTS stops reading and says "hello, I'm no martyr" 4 - HTS resumes reading
Pretty weird time to post an "hello" post.
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On September 15 2015 21:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:59 Half the Sky wrote: Afternoon everyone!
Swamped at work, so just started reading the thread. I'm town but not the martyr.
this is a really weird post. I find too Like here is the timeline: 1 - HTS starts to read the thread 2 - HTS sees that rayn wants the martyr to claim 3 - HTS stops reading and says "hello, I'm no martyr" 4 - HTS resumes reading Pretty weird time to post an "hello" post. @HTS can you confirm this is how it went ?
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On September 15 2015 21:20 Half the Sky wrote: Yeah that's how it went.
Not sure why it's weird tbh.
I read through the explanations of the mechanics to make sure I could trust them before I posted.
*shrug* It's weird because:
1. a normal time to post the "hello" post would be: - before reading the thread - after being caught up
2. if you chose to post your "hello I'm not martyr" post after reading rayn's "the martyr should claim" post, it doesn't make sense that you didn't wait to see if the real martyr has claimed. At least that what I would have done if I wanted to claim "non martyr".
3. rayn didn't ask for the non-martyr to claim, he asked for the martyr to claim.
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On September 15 2015 21:27 Half the Sky wrote: Well I saw other people post I'm not martyr so I just derped there. OK so you posted after reading this right ?
On September 15 2015 07:38 The Shining wrote: Hi hi. Are people just scared to post or what? I'm not the martyr so Idk what else to do except start the conversation on the Holy Grail vote.
Who is it going to?
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On September 15 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:25 Vivax wrote: I don't see how it is indicative for her being anything. If she has read like one page of the game and has never played this game i don't know how she trusts me enough to make the claim when she does (especially i derped and didn't even notice Palmar had changed the role slightly before like page 12)..... Actually she saw Shining claiming non martyr it makes sense for her to do that. NAI obviously, but not weird anymore.
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On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. 1 - I don't understand your question 2 - Why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ?
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On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote: Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?
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On September 15 2015 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:37 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. 1 - I don't understand your question 2 - Why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? Because role hunting I think is a stupid idea esp because of the mechanics involving about mafia can guess someone's role correctly and bam they are dead. Martyrs are actually useful as the game progresses and Rayn knows that. Role hunting != martyr hunting. So: why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? In other words: why is martyr claiming D1 bad ? And I still don't understand your question.
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On September 15 2015 21:45 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:42 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. 1 - I don't understand your question 2 - Why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? Because role hunting I think is a stupid idea esp because of the mechanics involving about mafia can guess someone's role correctly and bam they are dead. Martyrs are actually useful as the game progresses and Rayn knows that. Role hunting != martyr hunting. So: why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? In other words: why is martyr claiming D1 bad ? And I still don't understand your question. I didn't ask a question I was just giving my thoughts about the claim. Martyrs can protect town leaders or the person who gets the Holy Grail as the game progress. Talking about this:
I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone?
On September 15 2015 21:45 LightningStrike wrote: Martyrs can protect town leaders or the person who gets the Holy Grail as the game progress. I was thinking like you, but because of rolecop + soup it doesn't actually work very well. Martyring protecting just means the target is going to die next night without a possible angel save.
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Can you answer this too ?
On September 15 2015 16:56 Rels wrote:Fucking seriously. rayn posts this explaining why martyr not claiming is a bad idea: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now the martyr role, if used and not claimed does the following: 1) You die, noone in the town knows who mafia killed. 2) noone in the town knows your role, mafia does 3) noone in the town knows the role mafia tried to kill, mafia does.
It gives mafia an uncontested soup kill (their actual night kill) AND it gives them a possible fakeclaim (martyr) later on. Then LS post this 3 minutes later: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? @LS did you read rayn post (the first quote in this post) before asking a question ?
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I don't understand you.
You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.
And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia.
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On September 15 2015 21:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:Can you answer this too ? On September 15 2015 16:56 Rels wrote:Fucking seriously. rayn posts this explaining why martyr not claiming is a bad idea: On September 15 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now the martyr role, if used and not claimed does the following: 1) You die, noone in the town knows who mafia killed. 2) noone in the town knows your role, mafia does 3) noone in the town knows the role mafia tried to kill, mafia does.
It gives mafia an uncontested soup kill (their actual night kill) AND it gives them a possible fakeclaim (martyr) later on. Then LS post this 3 minutes later: On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? @LS did you read rayn post (the first quote in this post) before asking a question ? Yes but it wasn't really detailed about benefits of not claiming Martyr from him and have him post it in the thread but he didn't though. Why would he fucking post the benefits of martyr not claiming ?? He thinks there are no benefits! He even replied to you exactly that if I remember.
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On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote: Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote: Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted. That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself. I'm not voting Shining for being AFK. I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.
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On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote: Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote: Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted. That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself. I'm not voting Shining for being AFK. I'm not scumreading you for being AFK. Seem like it though at the time? What time ? You're not making sense. And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!"
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On September 15 2015 22:02 LightningStrike wrote: BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them. OK regardless of alignment, you need to calm down and read properly. Read the sentence again.
On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia. I was saying you left the thread after asking rayn a question. I didn't say you needed to gtfo right now.
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On September 15 2015 22:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:05 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 22:02 LightningStrike wrote: BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them. OK regardless of alignment, you need to calm down and read properly. Read the sentence again. On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia. I was saying you left the thread after asking rayn a question. I didn't say you needed to gtfo right now. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia. I taken that way but yet I didn't gtfo? Also if you had read my first post I already had said I wasn't going be around for long(longer than expected though because having College stuff to take care of) You didn't leave but you left ? =D Anyway it's not the "you left" that is the bad part, it is the "I don't agree with this but I won't say it".
We have reached a dead end. I don't understand: 1 - Why you didn't explain how martyr hunting is bad at the beginning of the game when rayn was pushing super hard for the martyr to claim 2 - Why you asked rayn about the benefits of martyr not claiming when he clearly said he wanted the martyr to claim and explained why 3 - Why you are scumreading rayn for martyr hunting 4 - Why you are scumreading me for scumreading you 5 - Why you thought I am scumreading Shining and you for AFKing I think you're mafia. No explanation on what you did earlier is going to change it. Things you do later might make me re evaluate.
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I like this list I love that I got to see mafia rayn in personality mafia. I think I would have a harder time not thinking of tinfoil mafia rayn in this game if I didn't experience the lackluster experience that is mafia rayn (= Glad to see you agree on fidei and BM posts being NAI
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would disagree on FF and geript FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing. geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role
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