EPTif martyr doesn't claim it means he will protect N1 100%
so it doesn't matter
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if martyr doesn't claim it means he will protect N1 100% so it doesn't matter | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:05 Vivax wrote: The thing with the martyr is that he learns who gets killed and hence who is town during the night if I understand correctly, he should try to do some decent crumbs even at the risk of being too obvious. And the witches only learn the roles of who they kill if their rolecop role survives. I think it's too dangerous for unclaimed martyr to not protect because: 1 - he can get killed by POE soup now that several people have claimed not being the martyr 2 - his claim will be harder to prove. If he claims D1 we can 100% believe him if no counter claim | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: which is why i am doing what i am. I am not giving them option. They don't have that option anymore since like half of the game has basically said they are not the martyr. OK OK I agree my problem was that he could not claim because he thinks it's the best play, even if half the game have claimed no martyr. Look at what vivax is saying for example but if he doesn't claim, he's going to protect N1, so it doesn't matter actually | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: no, again, never use the role because YOU ARE A MAFIA ROLECOP!!!! ffs it is in case he doesn't claim. In this case, he SHOULD protect 'cause his claim is not going to be believed in later days I 100% agree he should claim | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:11 Vivax wrote: List of people who afked after posting. LS TheShining Bill Murray Dandel Ion You gave me an idea. Let me check some filters | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: NONONONONO! If yo uuse the martyr role all it does is one dead townie (which would be anyways), town learns nothing (saying you can crumb who you save is fucking bullshit because you cannot do that), mafia gets a free rolecheck. It's literally an anti-town role when used!!!! I wrote an answer to that, but it is super useless since we agree martyr should claim anyway | ||
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The useful list of useless people The Shining HTS LS fidei Dandel Ion If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard | ||
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I want to push people to not be useless If one refuses he's mafia | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:29 Vivax wrote: Oh and it's silent nights so no chance for the martyr to crumb anything during them, only atferwards. Still, later in the game the role can prove useful cause if he witnesses a witch kill being saved by angels the martyr can confirm him as town after claiming. I understand the potential of martyr not claiming and not saving BUT Advantages of claiming now: we have 1 confirmed town Disadvantages of claiming later: martyr can and will be counter claimed AND we have no way of verifying the claim with no flip. We will have to lynch someone else and the real martyr will be souped with the angel saved guy | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:53 Vivax wrote: I'm taking a leap of faith here that you're town and correct rayn. I'm the martyr. Cool =D I actually thought that, it made sense that you only thought about the potential of your role without thinking people would not believe you | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: And now i believe we should lynch LS because it doesn't make sense to him be town anymore. Would prefer TS right now, but LS is my second choice | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:57 Vivax wrote: Also I'd ask that we extend this day to the max since I'm getting souped next night. That is the best play regardless of soupe. Long days is good for us | ||
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On September 15 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: ofc we will have 72h day. IML is not an option here. I seriously believe LS is mafia. His question to me makes absolutely no sense unless: 1) he is the martyr (which he isn't) 2) he is mafia and doesn't really know how to respond to me saying the martyr should claim It just does not make any sense for him to take part of that discussion in case he is town and not the martyr. You're saying here that LS tried to participate in something he shouldn't. I agree. But there is more. The question he asked was answered 3 MINUTES before he posted it. | ||
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On September 15 2015 18:17 Vivax wrote: INDESTRUCTIBLE town list: TT Rels FF Can you explain the FF part ? | ||
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On September 15 2015 18:22 Vivax wrote: He omgused me before finishing to read the thread and noticing I'm confirmed until proven otherwise. Don't see how it makes him town. | ||
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Town rayn Vivax TT Maybe town Damdred geript Null FF HTS fidei BM Maybe scum Dandel Ion Scum The Shining LS See you all later (= | ||
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On September 15 2015 18:34 Vivax wrote: Cause he isn't worried in the slightest that he might get lynched. As mafia you choose your scumreads more carefully, you don't throw them out like that before having caught up. There's only a small chance I'm reading too much into it cause it's FF but usually that applies. He doesn't care much when he's town, and is actually quite good at playing scum and making the impression that he cares and has some real scumreads. I don't think it's the latter in this game. I see your point: FF is playing his town meta. But I don't see how this is hard to replicate as scum. | ||
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On September 15 2015 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am also kinda waffling on what does that make BM. I am pretty sure that is alignment indicatice i am just not sure into which way yet.  ?? How can this be town indicative ? | ||
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