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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:13 GMT
#303
On September 15 2015 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 15 2015 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.


On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
[quote]
There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?


On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
[quote]
[quote]
Alright that is super scummy.
The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.
The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business".


Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk?
What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)?

I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.

That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.

I'm not voting Shining for being AFK.
I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.

Seem like it though at the time?

What time ?
You're not making sense.
And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!"

Because should always see two sides of a coin in terms of benefits of claiming or not and I finding odd he didn't though.

explain the other side then.
i already did explain why there isn't one.

I already explained my side to Rels if you had taken a look between my conversation between myself and him. Martyr's can protect town leaders or the person gets the Holy Grail so it not a complete waste to have a Martyr not claim. I feel like I hitting my head on a brickwall already............

yes but your explanation does not make any sense at all.

It does in my mind(shrugs).
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:16 GMT
#306
On September 15 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you understand the fact if martyr protects someone they are effectively a mafia rolecop.
Mafia wins when they rolecop enough people in a way or another.

Do you want to try explaining the other side of the coin again?

How do they act like a rolecop if they are alive? I still not understanding that part honestly.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:17 GMT
#308
BTW I now getting ready for College and will try to post some stuff between classes so if I afk that's why.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:35 GMT
#315
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:39 GMT
#319
On September 15 2015 22:18 Rels wrote:
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On September 15 2015 22:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:05 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:02 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them.

OK regardless of alignment, you need to calm down and read properly.
Read the sentence again.
On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:
I don't understand you.

You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.

And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Then you gtfo.
I think you're mafia.

I was saying you left the thread after asking rayn a question.
I didn't say you needed to gtfo right now.

On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:
I don't understand you.

You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.

And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Then you gtfo.
I think you're mafia.

I taken that way but yet I didn't gtfo? Also if you had read my first post I already had said I wasn't going be around for long(longer than expected though because having College stuff to take care of)

You didn't leave but you left ? =D Anyway it's not the "you left" that is the bad part, it is the "I don't agree with this but I won't say it".

We have reached a dead end. I don't understand:
1 - Why you didn't explain how martyr hunting is bad at the beginning of the game when rayn was pushing super hard for the martyr to claim
2 - Why you asked rayn about the benefits of martyr not claiming when he clearly said he wanted the martyr to claim and explained why
3 - Why you are scumreading rayn for martyr hunting
4 - Why you are scumreading me for scumreading you
5 - Why you thought I am scumreading Shining and you for AFKing
I think you're mafia. No explanation on what you did earlier is going to change it. Things you do later might make me re evaluate.

1. I wanted him to think of the positives of not claiming at the time/
2. See 1.
3. Because role hunting is a stupid idea in general for this type of game.
4. Because I have never played with you before the LS rule is that when someone I never played with scumreads me more than likely they are mafia. See Titanic and Slytherin on prplhz(Titanic Mafia) and gooblyduke(or whatever his name was when he was scum in Slytherin)
5. Because Shining was afk at the time and so was I?
I sorry but I am Town you need to check my meta to understand me.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:41 GMT
#320
On September 15 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
would disagree on FF and geript
FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing.
geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role

Geript knows me well but idk how he thought that question wasn't one I would ever ask when I had asked some similar questions in my past games. That post from seems a little forced.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:42 GMT
#322
On September 15 2015 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
would disagree on FF and geript
FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing.
geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role

Geript knows me well but idk how he thought that question wasn't one I would ever ask when I had asked some similar questions in my past games. That post from seems a little forced.

I mean from Geript derped.(Refering to HTS post about Geript's reason for scumreading me)
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 13:43 GMT
#324
On September 15 2015 22:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me

If you feel something I didn't understand can be explained by meta, be my guest and quote stuff from other games. I'm not going to do that for you. Now you should stop martyring and start scumhunting.

I will later I seriously got to go in like 3 mins so I can't really scum hunt until after my first class or if I got time before my 1st class to post.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:40 GMT
#348
On September 15 2015 22:47 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me


I am taking three things into account.

1 I'm aware you aren't particularly articulate.

2 I'm aware of your mafia meta, I am also aware you've said you don't like playing mafia and have trouble being the bad guy (reference Witchcraft 3).

3 I'm also aware of what you are capable of when you ARE town. This is why I tried to break down Rels' position for you. That he's scumreading you NOT for being AFK, and whether you can realistically break that down to being a mafia motivated post.

I'm purposely ignoring the mechanics based on #1 and focusing more based on #6 in Rels post why you aren't answering the questions.

Also I get the meta references on your end but the LS rule is quite arbitrary regardless of your alignment. The people scumreading you - even if aggressive - ARE breaking down why you are mafia or what about you looks mafia.

So if you ignore Rels and Rayn (hypothetically) for just a second, who is mafia?

1. There was a reason I had Tina be my translator
2. I do have trouble playing as a bad guy because I simply don't like to lie and wasn't coached properly except in JOAT when I bussed the shit out of Sandroba without my team's permission but it got me enough town cred for end game.
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?
I was trying to the questions to the best of my abilities but he just understand me (pokes at Tina to translate stuff for Rels)
Damdred could be mafia for slacking off and doing any shit this entire game except calling me mafia in 1 post. Geript is a capable scum player you are correct on that and he coached me in JOAT and his wording seems very weird I agree with you there and the fact he asked rayn a little bit about me(I think I reading what you said in a earlier post) so he could be mafia for the weird wording about me. BTW I at college atmand I got some time before classes and will attempt to reread the thread now.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:43 GMT
#350
Also to expand on Damdred he didn't post reaons why I could mafia and wasn't pushing me at all after he called me mafia.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:44 GMT
#351
On September 15 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?

What posts are you talking about

I asking HTS a question since she knows me well enough. I going to reread the thread more carefully now.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:53 GMT
#355
On September 15 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?

What posts are you talking about

I asking HTS a question since she knows me well enough. I going to reread the thread more carefully now.

I'm not asking why you said that.
You said: "I wouldn't make some of my posts if I was scum".
So I ask: what posts are you talking about ?

I was asking her if I am capable posting some of the posts as mafia. I meant to add if so which posts and I can explain my thought my process on the post.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:55 GMT
#356
On September 15 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:47 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:53 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon.

I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.

I'm not sure I like BM.

This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn.
On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on


I am also kinda waffling on what does that make BM.
I am pretty sure that is alignment indicatice i am just not sure into which way yet.

?? How can this be town indicative ?

geript was BM there when we were talking in TS about our strengths in games?

I don't recall

@rayn does it change your read of BM ?

It's prob fluff honestly I had used a TS reason someone was mafia and I was wrong(See Apperture 4).
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:57 GMT
#360
On September 15 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?

What posts are you talking about

I asking HTS a question since she knows me well enough. I going to reread the thread more carefully now.

I'm not asking why you said that.
You said: "I wouldn't make some of my posts if I was scum".
So I ask: what posts are you talking about ?

I was asking her if I am capable posting some of the posts as mafia. I meant to add if so which posts and I can explain my thought my process on the post.

what posts are you FUCKING talking about

Any posts..................
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:57 GMT
#361
On September 15 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:
are you trolling me

I not trolling deal with it.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 14:58 GMT
#362
Okay I'm done for now I not going to talk to brickwalls until I get home from College.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 15:22 GMT
#370
Okay I just reread he OP and I gotta say I will agree wth rayn his position just relized that unless we lynch the role that keeps giving the role of the person who gets targeted by the mafia kp the martyr is a useless role. I guess I was a just been a idiot all along.................... I seriously wont to talk to anyone till after I get home from college after this post.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 17:47 GMT
#389
Okay I changed my mind I will post a few things here and there what you want to talk about Rayn?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 17:51 GMT
#390
Welp my 2nd class for the day got canceled but I still have to stymy college until I get picked up by my Dad or Mom so if you guys want to talk to me abut anything until I get picked up feel free to!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 15 2015 17:52 GMT
#392
On September 16 2015 02:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Welp my 2nd class for the day got canceled but I still have to stay at my college until I get picked up by my Dad or Mom so if you guys want to talk to me abut anything until I get picked up feel free to!

EDWOP: Grammar fixed I using a laptop which got really bad sensitivity T_T
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