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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
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Last Edited: 2015-09-12 09:12:15
September 12 2015 09:11 GMT
#62
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 16 2015 18:16 GMT
#1456
Okay guys I'm up to Page 21 - work today's been pretty busy but I'm going to try to catch up on the thread after lunch.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 16 2015 19:30 GMT
#1481
I have to travel to another building so I won't be on for a bit (I'll try to get on before lynch)

Replacing before deadline and having 50+ pages to read and work is impossible.

JAT looks the worst from what I've read so far - so that's where my votes going right now.

I'll be back in a bit.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 17 2015 17:10 GMT
#1834
So I still have a lot of reading to do in the thread - but I'm caught up from night 1 till now- (still have pages 20-70? to do) but let me at least post my thoughts - another swamped day of shit breaking - I was able to break free for a few to write this up.

Palmar - normal townie Palmar from what I've seen so far

raynpelikoneet - normal town rayn - posts his thoughts - goes after his scum he believes in (although wrong on MD)

ritoky-townlean, getting information, asking related questions

justanothertownie - he was gone for a bit, and looked worse day 1 - and I was thinking Moosy was townier at the time. but his night 1 has impressed me, although he's got that normal JAT chip on the shoulder-townlean

Damdred-I'm thinking he's town, but has a lot of "not sure idk etc" - ?

Koshi-feels like town Koshi - I welcome your return.

marvellosity - just seems off, but I'm not sure how - others can read him better then I - null for now

geript-another one who just seems off - quite a few reads are opposite of where I am right now - lower null

Wile E. Coyote - Probably sicklucker for what JAT said, and SL never uses caps/looks like his style of writing. Defends Ceph - looks like he's trying to survive and not scumhunt - scumlearn

Cephiro - survival seems to be his agenda, not finding scum - scumlean
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 17 2015 23:47 GMT
#1941
I've sat here thinking if I should this or not or go for the push, but I just don't think I'll have the time with how work is.

I'm hard claiming one shot tracker.
I tracked Wile E Coyote to Koshi.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 17 2015 23:50 GMT
#1942
So either he's a scummy wandering townie - lol - an idiot cop who checked Koshi (lol)
or a Framer/Lawyer/Roleblocker

I think he needs to die.

##Vote: Wile E Coyote
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 18 2015 00:35 GMT
#1948
Are you serious?

GB?!?! Is that you?!?

No, I don't believe you.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 18 2015 00:42 GMT
#1953
I track the second scummiest dude, since I thought the scummiest (Ci) wouldn't do anything - and I get this pile of fucking fun... nice

Not you geript, if you were talking to me.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 18 2015 03:00 GMT
#2031
I'm glad I didn't listen to Palmar about tracking marv.

GG Wile.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 18 2015 22:25 GMT
#2350
On September 18 2015 23:30 geript wrote:
I have a few things to do for the NEW JOB I just got offered!!!!!! YAY! But Damdred texted me a pic. I can say, his wife is a lucky woman. It pretty much is a horse cock. He's not mafia.

Anyone else interested in proving their towniness? I'll be accepting photos all game long.


Grats! I know you've been trying a while now bud.

On September 18 2015 21:42 Koshi wrote:
lol @ vets pretending/discussing they are any good.

When there is a guy with 5 posts, who entered the game late D1, who nailed mafia, confirmed 2 townies and basically has the golden filter of awesomeness. I am just going to sheep him for the rest of the game.

If only he changed his read a bit on JAT, mafia scumlord.


Look at the sick pocket here.

On September 18 2015 23:48 Koshi wrote:
I cannot believe I didn't lynch JAT d1. Now I need to wait D3.....................................


Talk to me between JAT and Marv. I think Marv looks worse and isn't trying to find mafia.

I think geript and Palmar are town.

Cephiro is useless space.

Damdred would be in between the two - I liked his thoughts after my claim - they seemed genuine.

I'll get some more time later tonight/weekend.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 01:50 GMT
#2401
I've read through the game and I'm unsure what else or where to post or comment on. What do you want? My views haven't changed since my last post.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 07:06 GMT
#2406
Give your last thoughts before you die Ritoky

#fuckhashtags
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 07:08 GMT
#2408
Koshi
Ritoky
Palmar
JAT
Damdred
Cephiro
Marv

Tell me more about Marv and JAT Ritoky
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:28 GMT
#2414
Marv - I honestly don't read much of what he types and consequently don't have much of a read. I had a mild town read on him all game cuz he basically ignored my existence until he was forced to. We tend to do that to eachother after previous games. His filter is something I might try to conquer before the change of phase but it is pretty huge and I don't wanna do it now.

Marv plays well and he scares me right now with his play - he usually shows himself as town, and he does not done that this game. He scares me and I see it in your filter - but I know you are town and don't have an agenda. He's still #2 to me. Expand on this more if you have time before you die please.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:31 GMT
#2415
On September 15 2015 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 18:48 Palmar wrote:
On September 15 2015 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar doesn't really deserve the number of townreads he has at this point, it's way too early.


Why not? I think I've been for the most part fairly helpful and sensible which should usually make me town.

since when does this make you town?

since when have i ever read you based on you being "helpful and sensible"?

cmon dear.


Like comments like this - I can fill the filter up, but they just seem off and not looking for mafia.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:35 GMT
#2417
On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
Right this moment:

marv

rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)

Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy

jat

onegu/warwaffle
geript
Wile

Having skimmed over again and read what people wrote about geript's read on Palmar, it's one of those things that feel like he *should* be mafia, but the point about geript's calculatedness as mafia (which i also feel) sticks with me.

Game feels a little more PoE-y than normal, though


This is his list D1
and has not posted another since.

The only other interesting one is he talks shit about Janitors
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:38 GMT
#2418
Maybe I got confirmation bias but I've obs'ed his games and he just seems so off.

Geript and Cephiro could be in the too scummy pile and the blinded by the light crap.

You just have played more and want to get all the information out of you I can.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:41 GMT
#2419
JAT - Wouldn't lynch for at least tomorrow. Was pushing Wile before the claims, was pushing Wile during the claims, was pushing Wile after the claims. There's something to be said for the guy trying the hardest while the thread is kinda dead being mafia...but I remember when I soft threatened to shoot him he basically told me to go fuck myself. He later admitted to not realizing I was softing (and me not dying or being rb'd in the night -> tinfoil) but it was a natural reaction to me which emanated from a place of town. The 1 thing he really needs to do is sit town and consolidate his thoughts into a single post. He has a 20 page filter than even someone who likes filter diving like me doesn't really wanna traverse. I would push him to consolidate tonight or tomorrow, but I wouldn't lynch him tomorrow at the very least. He is also very very unlikely to being with damdred.

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:42 GMT
#2420
I thought Damdred's reactions to my claim were reasonable - or were they Scumdred trying to throw us off?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:46 GMT
#2422
Cephiro is just shit town until proven otherwise - give it a day or two - Wish you would've shot him but can't waste our lives on should've.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:49 GMT
#2425
Geript - could be mafia because last game him and i were town bros from like day 1. we had the feels. he doesn't have the feels this game. also he had that one crazy tonal shift post where he has not been angry all game and then suddenly goes off on some1 then back to calm. could be trying to manufacture some of his town fire.

Geript is a very good scum player and like JAT said - has some crazy dumbtells and maybe trying to play it off? WIFOM etc ?

Nothing fucking sticks out.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 08:53 GMT
#2427
You've helped me out conftown friend and you will me missed - I want to lynch Marv tomorrow.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 20:39 GMT
#2451
On September 20 2015 21:57 Koshi wrote:
I was happy to see 43 posts but when I started reading I skipped them all except 5ish.

Scott confirmed town hero. He should try and find the quote button though.


What's a quote button?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 21:30 GMT
#2452


It's time!

So we have three confimed town - Ritoky, myself, and Koshi - I won't even bother with these.

I learned from Marv on the BH game to claim one shot - actually I am two - and I tracked Damdred tonight - and I'll post those results if I'm not dead. The reasoning is I think he's the most cautious one and might be less suspicious of doing so. There could be a Godfather (Godfather/Janitor/Roleblocker imba?) and I almost thought of holding my track due to this and hope we get a GF lynch today (I really think Ritoky is going to die tonight because he's honestly a better more experienced player then me and more of a threat) but I'll probably get killed tomorrow and I'd lose it anyway. I might be tonight because Mafia might think I have another track - So I'm leaving this last will just in case. So I'll just assume RB/Janitor/Goon and someone has to carry the shot and roll with it - but keep in mind my track would mean shit if there's a GF since he isn't trackable. I'm pretty confident Onegu was town with how Wile posted - so I'm in the mindset there's two mafia left and one is the Janitor.

I was thinking of tracking Marv - but everyone seems the most suspicious of him, and I'm doubtful he would carry the shot. I might be WIFOM'ing this but that's where my thoughts and feels are.

I'm pretty confident JAT is town - His posting - his townie chip on the shoulder - it makes sense. He's my top townread right now that's not confirmed.

Palmar would be next - It just still shows his townie meta - his ideas, thoughts - and he's probably only mafia if Marv is. So we should figure out the Marv situation first.

Geript is doing lots of dumbtells and is just drifting along - I agreee with JAT - his scumgame has a plan and is thought out and well respected. Here he's just doing silly stuff and talking about penises. He will have to step it up soon or he's going to start going into scumpiles. Grats on the job, BTW.

Cephiro is just useless space - I really don't know what this guy is doing but it fits in the "too scummy to be scum" pile - but I've seen people get bit by this analogy before - He needs to step it up or he's playing against his town wincon. ??

Damdred - some of his game has been really murky - but his thoughts after my claim seem genuine - but nothing I see he couldn't do as mafia. Some people see him as town - some scummy - my suspicions are he's the janitor and hopefully my plan works he'll carry the shot and I might get a twofer. He's my #2 scumread right now. Re-read his Day 1 with his interactions with Wile as well - he dropped him for a "super townie" post.

Marv should be the lynch tomorrow - this looks nothing like his towngame - he's not trying to find mafia - he's just surviving. This would also give more information on Palmar, JAT, and other things as well. I think this is the best course of action for now.

This game has been a lot of fun for me - and I apologize for the first day - work has sucked with things going down at a specific building all the time and I have to babysit the place, or else I normally would have more time. GG's all.

It's time!

So we have three confimed town - Ritoky, myself, and Koshi - I won't even bother with these.

I learned from Marv on the BH game to claim one shot - actually I am two - and I tracked Damdred tonight - and I'll post those results if I'm not dead. The reasoning is I think he's the most cautious one and might be less suspicious of doing so. There could be a Godfather (Godfather/Janitor/Roleblocker imba?) and I almost thought of holding my track due to this and hope we get a GF lynch today (I really think Ritoky is going to die tonight because he's honestly a better more experienced player then me and more of a threat) but I'll probably get killed tomorrow and I'd lose it anyway. I might be tonight because Mafia might think I have another track - So I'm leaving this last will just in case. So I'll just assume RB/Janitor/Goon and someone has to carry the shot and roll with it - but keep in mind my track would mean shit if there's a GF since he isn't trackable. I'm pretty confident Onegu was town with how Wile posted - so I'm in the mindset there's two mafia left and one is the Janitor.
I was thinking of tracking Marv - but everyone seems the most suspicious of him, and I'm doubtful he would carry the shot. I might be WIFOM'ing this but that's where my thoughts and feels are.

I'm pretty confident JAT is town - His posting - his townie chip on the shoulder - it makes sense. He's my top townread right now that's not confirmed.

Palmar would be next - It just still shows his townie meta - his ideas, thoughts - and he's probably only mafia if Marv is. So we should figure out the Marv situation first.

Geript is doing lots of dumbtells and is just drifting along - I agreee with JAT - his scumgame has a plan and is thought out and well respected. Here he's just doing silly stuff and talking about penises. He will have to step it up soon or he's going to start going into scumpiles. Grats on the job, BTW.

Cephiro is just useless space - I really don't know what this guy is doing but it fits in the "too scummy to be scum" pile - but I've seen people get bit by this analogy before - He needs to step it up or he's playing against his town wincon. ??

Damdred - some of his game has been really murky - but his thoughts after my claim seem genuine - but nothing I see he couldn't do as mafia. Some people see him as town - some scummy - my suspicions are he's the janitor and hopefully my plan works he'll carry the shot and I might get a twofer. He's my #2 scumread right now. Re-read his Day 1 with his interactions with Wile as well - he dropped him for a "super townie" post.

Marv should be the lynch tomorrow - this looks nothing like his towngame - he's not trying to find mafia - he's just surviving. This would also give more information on Palmar, JAT, and other things as well. I think this is the best course of action for now.

This game has been a lot of fun for me - and I apologize for the first day - work has sucked with things going down at a specific building all the time and I have to babysit the place, or else I normally would have more time. GG's all.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 21:30 GMT
#2454
GG's Koshi
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 21:31 GMT
#2455
Damdred did not visit anyone.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 21:35 GMT
#2458
Oops double pasted my bad
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 20 2015 21:55 GMT
#2476
So shall we get the Marv wagon rolling then?

Or do you have a better suggestion?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 01:36 GMT
#2501
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 19:35 GMT
#2547
So.....
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:11 GMT
#2554
Hey, I think Koshi did quite well, and has had a change of light with his hiatus to change himself.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 06:00 GMT
#2600
On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:
Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens.

I agree with this, especially lately.
but i think its too early to tell.

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On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar.

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On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).

not sure if it helps, but from my perspective:

1) geript is more calculated as mafia
2) geript did something scummy
3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1

or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy

well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did.
i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?

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On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like here is what jat said:

"I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him."

jesus fucking christ

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On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase...

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On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy.

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On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia.

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On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me.

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On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed?

He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread.

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On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo.......


By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me.


So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct?

On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.

Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.

Lije its a really possible scum team.


This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town?

On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.

cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.


Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter.

--Geript defensive --

On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.

cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.

The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town.

The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other.


I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment.

There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful.

Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now.

There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS?

Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game -
Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit?
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September 22 2015 06:05 GMT
#2603
Marv dies - he gave up, but I'm like seriously - Do you want respect for your play? Why do you even ask to join anymore? I spend good time looking and figuring out who is Mafia in the game - and There's only two left. Cephiro and others could give a fuck. There's plenty of sites you can troll on and get your dick still stiff.
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September 22 2015 06:07 GMT
#2604
On September 22 2015 15:04 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:
On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:
Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT
On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens.

I agree with this, especially lately.
but i think its too early to tell.

On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar.

On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).

not sure if it helps, but from my perspective:

1) geript is more calculated as mafia
2) geript did something scummy
3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1

or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy

well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did.
i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?

On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like here is what jat said:

"I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him."

jesus fucking christ

On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase...

On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy.

On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia.

On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me.

On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed?

He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread.

On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo.......


By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me.


So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct?

On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.

Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.

Lije its a really possible scum team.


This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town?

On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.

cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.


Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter.

--Geript defensive --

On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:
On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.

cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.

The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town.

The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other.


I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment.

There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful.

Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now.

There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS?

Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game -
Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit?

GG Mr. 2 page filter


You are going to try to shit on confirmed town because I am concise and not bullshit a lot of filter when it is not needed?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
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September 22 2015 06:11 GMT
#2605
On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.

cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.


He had no problem posting plenty of info about the LYLO I just lost and reposting when I just said anything.
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Profile Joined January 2013
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September 22 2015 14:04 GMT
#2629
On September 22 2015 21:47 Palmar wrote:
Cephiro drops hard hitting analysis on the guy we're lynching anyway and isn't even trying to defend himself.


I think it's worth giving him a pass for today, but that's about it.

Probably even tomorrow too.
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scott31337
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September 22 2015 15:49 GMT
#2633
Meh, I'm not totally against lynching you tomorrow either.

See how I did that?
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Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 16:52 GMT
#2637
What do you think Ritoky should we lynch Scumdred tomorrow in your memory?
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Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 17:26 GMT
#2650
On September 18 2015 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 12:35 Damdred wrote:
I was rereading some things and I'm pretty confident that geript is town now.

One of the original reasons that I thought wile was scum was his call out and pushing geript. One thing in particular was when he called geript out for not caring if someone was scum or mafia.

It was such a weird thing and was super opportunistic at that point when people were piling on geript.

I think it makes him town, so if I take ceph out for pushing wile instead of going straight to save himself I just arrive at jat palmar and Marv.

its interesting... I'll have a small amount of time to read over all three but right now id probably go jat, palm, Marv maybe switch Marv and palmar just depends. If jat is scum id put palmar last though

I agree with this geript stuff.

Not sure I agree with the Ceph stuff, although it makes sense on the surface. He's a sneaky fellow.

but i think it's probably right to take geript out, so the list is shrinking.

also the fact that you're looking to remove unconfirmed from the pool is a point in your favour


Hmmm
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Profile Joined January 2013
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September 22 2015 17:34 GMT
#2655
On September 18 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 06:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
like ceph is never mafia here I think. he doesint even wanna return a vote on onegu when his life is on the line. So unless there partners and onegus doing some sort of terrible afk bus ceph is always going to be town here

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 06:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
moosys not really doing anything to warrant unvotes. moosy/jat/ceph i think is my pref order

er??


Yeah I think Ceph gets a point up after reading Marv's filter - I wouldn't lynch Ceph tomorrow.
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Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 17:39 GMT
#2657
On September 23 2015 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 02:34 scott31337 wrote:
On September 18 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:
On September 17 2015 06:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
like ceph is never mafia here I think. he doesint even wanna return a vote on onegu when his life is on the line. So unless there partners and onegus doing some sort of terrible afk bus ceph is always going to be town here

On September 17 2015 06:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
moosys not really doing anything to warrant unvotes. moosy/jat/ceph i think is my pref order

er??


Yeah I think Ceph gets a point up after reading Marv's filter - I wouldn't lynch Ceph tomorrow.

I am currently thinking I would go with geript or damdred tomorrow. But we need to force Cephiro to do shit at some point.


And how should we accomplish that?
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Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 18:00 GMT
#2665
How do you feel about Damdred, Ceph?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 19:06 GMT
#2685
It's better to talk about it now before your confirmed townies are still around when you know what their agenda is, not "ez lynch sheep zzzzz see you in 3 days"
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Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 19:27 GMT
#2698
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Profile Joined January 2013
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September 22 2015 21:26 GMT
#2703
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United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 21:30 GMT
#2707
He was the goon though hmm

Scumdred next?
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Profile Joined January 2013
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September 22 2015 21:33 GMT
#2715
On September 23 2015 06:31 Palmar wrote:
Doesn't this clear damdred?


Does it?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 21:33 GMT
#2717
Oh yeah unless Onegu was the Janitor, it possibly clears him, but not 100% - I got you.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 21:33 GMT
#2719
And the game would be over
so it probably does, unless Marv carried the shot.
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September 22 2015 21:35 GMT
#2724
On September 23 2015 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:
Oh yeah unless Onegu was the Janitor, it possibly clears him, but not 100% - I got you.

Onegu is confirmed town bro.


Yeah yeah I was posting too quick hehehe
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scott31337
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September 22 2015 21:53 GMT
#2736
I'd put it at about 95% - I wifom'ed out of tracking Marv - would he carry though? but I think I'm going to run with that Damdred is town for now. They had no time to switch the kill with my post - I made sure of that. Marv would've been toast anyway so I'm glad I didn't really.

Geript or Ceph sound like good ideas then.
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September 22 2015 22:32 GMT
#2754
On September 23 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's something I'm thinking.

Its tinfoil though but halfway plausible.

First the proposed setup this game is
Masons(rayn and koshi)
Tracker (scott)
Unaware Miller_(moosey)
Vigilante (ritoky)

Vs
Goon(marv)
Rb(wile)
Janitor(?)

This is an insanely imbalanced set up for town. Its true if janitor hits like,he did and blocks out the big information shot its a slight win for,mafia.

It just seems like a lot of blues for a thirteen person game vs a relatively weak mafia team that can't even negate the tracker and doesn't care about killing him.

Part of me wants to say that sl/wile and Scott devised this plan in qt for ultimate town cred. Obviously if he's town Scott has to die


Every fucking game people try these magic bus theories. It's like Koshi calling JAT mafia. It happens in every game.

The only BS I've shot off is/was the number of my checks.

On September 16 2015 00:12 geript wrote:
Here's what I know:
1. I'm sheeping Marv today.
2. Rayn is probably town. A few hesitations but eh.
3. I might be wrong on Damdred. After sleeping, I think I might just be really dumb with that read.
4. Moosey is town. What I've seen of his townplay is that Moosy is pretty all over the place in a pretty in effective way while still being rather confident in his reads. The only "questionable" thing so far is his Palmar read.
5. Still don't like Plammar.
Otherwise, fiik


Day 1 Votecount


Cephiro (3): Koshi, Onegu, marvellosity, Koshi, Palmar, marvellosity, Koshi, justanothertownie, geript
Moosydoosy (5): raynpelikoneet, Wile E. Coyote, Palmar, marvellosity, Koshi, ritoky, marvellosity
justanothertownie (3): Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, scott31337, Damdred, Cephiro
Wile E. Coyote (1): Moosydoosy, Cephiro
Onegu (0): Palmar
Palmar (0): geript
marvellosity (0): Koshi, Onegu, justanothertownie, Koshi
Damdred (0): Onegu
geript (0): raynpelikoneet, Palmar

Not Voting (0):

Voting ends in at 21:30 GMT (+00:00).[/QUOTE]

I'd do the other two days but that's kind of pointless.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 22 2015 22:34 GMT
#2755
On September 23 2015 07:24 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:10 ritoky wrote:
Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive.


Doesn't post much, sticking to conclusive stuff. -> Ceph is mafia because he is not active. (Because waving the dick around and talking about irrelevant shit has to happen D2 when there's a self-claimed scum up for lynch)

Posts more when asked, also telling about his unsure opinions -> Wow you wishy-washy fuck, so inconclusive and useless.

What the fuck does this town want? Also I'm not dying tonight anyway, why should I need to be posting during the night-time? Might as well just wait for the flip (which should be obvious, but you never know), and talk after. Also gives me more time to be "conclusive" like you want.

Like honestly, you can't deny my votes and reads have been on point. If you dislike me not waving my dick and spamming irrelevant shit when it's not needed, that's your issue.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Imo Scott alive after tonight is horrid and at lylo is basically a scum,claim.

Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles.


A track on me would be stupid as fuck, it should be fairly obvious by this point that I'm town. Re:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2015 02:53 Cephiro wrote:
As wifom, I really don't understand how someone could imagine a marv/Ceph scumteam at this point. I mean I like to make big plays, but I'm not a fan of retarded plays (well, except when I'm town and get an idea that I believe is genius when it clearly isn't). If I was scum with my marv, why on earth would you assume I'd have bussed both my scumbuddies since the start of the game? Sure, it's well within my reach to do so, but even I'm not stupid enough to think that I'd come out on top of a 1v5+1 (one confirmed town, ritoky) starting N3. Especially as if you assume both me and marv to be scum, that would mean scott is confirmed town also. Which would mean I'd go into a 1v4+1conftown situation on D4. I'm sure I could get at least one mislynch even at that point if I was mafia, but two when the town has the option of no-lynching on D5 to make it a D6 1v2? Yeah, just no. Not with how much presence I've had in the game so far. I can also assure you that I'd never have approved of a Koshi kill if I was scum. I would've just gone for the actually confirmed town and discredited koshi, given roleblocking into mafia team itself is something I've done several times in the past. Marv may have easily left pursuing my lynch near the deadline, but he did just as much so with Wile. Do you really think marv would've started off with a scum/scum bus only to waffle himself on a town mislynch? Just no.

Feel free to point out reasons you disagree, but trying to think of it from a neutral PoV, I honestly can't see how someone would ever think me+marv is a possible scumteam at this point. In theory sure, in practice no.

I don't mind if a townie genuinely misreads me as scum for valid reasons, people make mistakes all the time. But when the reasoning is absolute crap and spells "Opportunistic and far-fetched" all over it, you'll have to wonder if that's a case coming from a town player or a scum player.


Not that he should live through the night anyway.


EZPZ question - Who do you want to lynch tomorrow?
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Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#2772
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Profile Joined January 2013
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September 23 2015 21:18 GMT
#2804
If you die, who do you want dead in your memory? I want geript dead first personally.
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Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 23 2015 21:31 GMT
#2806
gg
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Profile Joined January 2013
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September 29 2015 03:31 GMT
#3376
Khaki was right

Gg
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September 29 2015 03:36 GMT
#3377
On September 29 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
honestly though, shame on you guys mafia for believing scott had 1shot. like lol on that.

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Profile Joined January 2013
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September 29 2015 03:39 GMT
#3378
On September 29 2015 06:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 06:39 deconduo wrote:
Thanks for playing everyone, and thanks to Kelsier for helping host. I'd appreciate any feedback on the setup, hosting etc.

I think this might have been a slightly town-sided setup, though the fact that the masons are not confirmed does offset that a bit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah it was townfavored to the max.

To balance it town needed at least a 2 shot vigi, scum RB should have been removed, town should have gotten a real cop and after D1 you should have killed the 3 people with the highest amount of votes on them.


Please speak to Artanis, Blazinghand and HalfTheSky in the future when you host again.


Tracker played well is better than cop. I am unsure how else I could have done better.
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