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On September 16 2015 22:18 marvellosity wrote:
ok. that's probably what bugs meant when i first came on to the scene. he described that i had a natural flair for doing what mafia "shouldn't" do right from the get go.
Take Damdred this game as an example.
Level 1 mafia damdred tries to blend in, is not very helpful and doesn't really commit to shit. He's in general boring, hardly visible and shit. This is how I caught him in Imperial, but I've also taken him for mafia as town based on the same things.
This game damdred comes riding in throwing townreads around like they're candy. What does this mean?
If we assume damdred is level 1 mafia, he must now be town because he's not playing like mafia.
If we assume damdred is capable of level 2 mafia, he might still be scum.
In general I never try to lynch mafia beyond level 1 on day 1, because 90% of mafia are level 1 anyway (this usually includes myself too...)
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also people assuming level 2 play when none exist is the standard rage-inducing thing that happens when people try to lynch me on later days. Especially when I was right on previous days.
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also holy shit lol, marv is right.
the guy literally claimed to have an idea of how he plays mafia after assuring us he'd never rolled mafia.
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On September 15 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 15 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MoosyDoosy if you are town i suggest you cut your bullshit and start playing mafia. sure i'll start looking more mafia. that's clearly what you meant amirite? I am saying you are just outright lying. Even if you have not rolled mafia on TL you certainly have elsewhere i am 100% sure of it. So yes, cut the bullshit about meta and "wow i have never been scum" and play. Actually my first forum Mafia games were on TL. And I've only played real life Mafia a few times and I've actually rolled town/doctor in those games too. Never rolled mafia in my whole life. Quite unfortunate.
On September 16 2015 00:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
Moosy: is rayn lying when he said you've played scum before? Never before in real life, forum, or anywhere else.
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I cba with this anymore.
Now you both (rayn and moosy) explain exactly what all this bullshit is about. If you didn't want to talk about it you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.
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On September 16 2015 22:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 22:29 Palmar wrote:On September 15 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 15 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 15 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MoosyDoosy if you are town i suggest you cut your bullshit and start playing mafia. sure i'll start looking more mafia. that's clearly what you meant amirite? I am saying you are just outright lying. Even if you have not rolled mafia on TL you certainly have elsewhere i am 100% sure of it. So yes, cut the bullshit about meta and "wow i have never been scum" and play. Actually my first forum Mafia games were on TL. And I've only played real life Mafia a few times and I've actually rolled town/doctor in those games too. Never rolled mafia in my whole life. Quite unfortunate. On September 16 2015 00:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 16 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
Moosy: is rayn lying when he said you've played scum before? Never before in real life, forum, or anywhere else. You do realiwe he is talking about playing the ga;e mafia in that first quote right:
I do not realise that
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On September 16 2015 22:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn brought it up.
*points fingers*
yes but now you guys just explain.
rayn also thinks you're mafia because of it.
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On September 16 2015 23:03 Koshi wrote:
I ll quickly comment on how terrible you all are.
The irony
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On September 16 2015 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:So Palmar, a few questions: How do those posts compute? You said yourself that marv is FORCED to read you town if you are town. Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 04:47 Palmar wrote:
Like even when he's mafia he will generally be right on a lot of things. For example my alignment, rayn's too.
Like if marv thinks me/rayn are town, we should never ever ever be lynched unless you believe it's a scum/scum situation. Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:40 Palmar wrote:On September 16 2015 20:35 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, want to lynch marv? He just defended me, which I liked. Do you think marvs reaction to me was a townmarv reaction? Like, you are good at this shit. Do you think townmarv would just -shrug- and let it slide? Do you think it is a townmarv reaction to instantly OMGUS myself instead of calling it weird when I push him for it? I don't like how he immediately felt the need to call me mafia for it. That's not what he usually does.
Yes he will defend me when I'm town. This is irrelevant of his own alignment. In general if he doesn't look like obvious mafia and is actually defending me I'm more than willing to give him a chance to be right/useful for the day. So yes, him defending me doesn't mean he's town, but it also means he's doing the right thing and he even gave the right reasons (cited my overall tone if I recall correctly, which marv has told me multiple times is a very important factor in how he reads me. I apparently just sound like mafia when I'm mafia).
I think you're mafia so I'm biased. Yes I think it's completely reasonable of marv to call you mafia. I don't think there is any reason to call him one. Koshi is sort of excused because he's bad, but why you tried to ride that train too I don't know.
Also, why are you asking me to explain things that should be obvious. There is no contradiction in the statements above, you're just trying to present them as one. I'd call you 100% mafia for it if it wasn't apparenly something you do (see trfel question last game, this is comparable).
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I know it's terrible but somehow geript offering a hint of an explanation of the moosy/rayn thing (I had thought about it being from another game, but I also forgot there were any other games going than this one and season of the witch) makes me kinda think he's less likely mafia.
It's not really that he said it, but rather the genuine "I'm going to try to help" tone he did it with.
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like I know he can still be mafia, but that post didn't sound like one.
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On September 17 2015 00:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:11 Palmar wrote:
I know it's terrible but somehow geript offering a hint of an explanation of the moosy/rayn thing (I had thought about it being from another game, but I also forgot there were any other games going than this one and season of the witch) makes me kinda think he's less likely mafia.
It's not really that he said it, but rather the genuine "I'm going to try to help" tone he did it with. i like this post
I know.
If there's mafia between me and you I'm almost certain it's you.
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On September 17 2015 00:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like jat, do you seriously believe marvellosity has the highest chance of flipping mafia here, right now, in this game? That's a good question. The problem with this game is that I should have way more townreads than I actually have at this point and it makes it hard to find mafia. If Palmar and you do not want to lynch marv I won't be getting him lynched anyways since I will not be around later. So I will probably assume he is town instead and deal with him if we are both alive day2.
What are your townreads?
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Also regarding something you asked earlier jat and I think I forgot to answer.
Yes, you play level 1 mafia most of the time. Everyone does. It's not really a skill level, but rather an almost wifom-depth level. If I recall correctly you mostly get caught on level 1 stuff too (activity, involvement, insight) etc.
I don't know now though. Like despite you arguing it, the background stuff I posted earlier was 100% true, but the attack on marv, even if I think it was bad, doesn't quite fit that narrative.
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On September 17 2015 00:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 00:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
JAT I don't understand your vote on marv. Is it out of spite or because you really think he's Mafia? I am majorly irritated by his reaction towards me and usually I have a townread on him at this point. So there is a decent chance he is mafia. He clearly isn't being lynched though which means discussing it is kinda pointless. Okay yeah, so your vote is useless. Who else are you looking into today then?
sass 
I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro.
marv, why are we killing cephiro?
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On September 17 2015 00:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:41 Palmar wrote:
Also regarding something you asked earlier jat and I think I forgot to answer.
Yes, you play level 1 mafia most of the time. Everyone does. It's not really a skill level, but rather an almost wifom-depth level. If I recall correctly you mostly get caught on level 1 stuff too (activity, involvement, insight) etc.
I don't know now though. Like despite you arguing it, the background stuff I posted earlier was 100% true, but the attack on marv, even if I think it was bad, doesn't quite fit that narrative.
I haven't ever been caught for activity or involvement and probably never will. The only reliable way to read me is to see what I am doing eod because for some reason sometimes I just don't know what to do then.
yeah I've been getting random b tags in my text.
Why did I figure out you were mafia in XXX? Wasn't it because I thought you were boring/uninvolved?
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On September 17 2015 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:
I also don't see any reason to townread damdred or warwaffle.
I have already explained why damdred should (level 1) be townread.
I think that's more than good enough for today.
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On September 17 2015 00:46 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 00:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 17 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 00:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
JAT I don't understand your vote on marv. Is it out of spite or because you really think he's Mafia? I am majorly irritated by his reaction towards me and usually I have a townread on him at this point. So there is a decent chance he is mafia. He clearly isn't being lynched though which means discussing it is kinda pointless. Okay yeah, so your vote is useless. Who else are you looking into today then? sass I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro. marv, why are we killing cephiro? can you tell me why not?
He kinda sounded townie when Koshi wanted to murder him back in the beginning of the day.
There is really not much else to it, and he's dropped off, but still, I'd like to think you have a reason other than "why not"?
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On September 17 2015 00:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 17 2015 00:46 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 00:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 17 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 00:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
JAT I don't understand your vote on marv. Is it out of spite or because you really think he's Mafia? I am majorly irritated by his reaction towards me and usually I have a townread on him at this point. So there is a decent chance he is mafia. He clearly isn't being lynched though which means discussing it is kinda pointless. Okay yeah, so your vote is useless. Who else are you looking into today then? sass I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro. marv, why are we killing cephiro? can you tell me why not? I'm curious as to Palmar's question as well actually. same question to you then. can you tell me why not? i explained my feelings with my original vote.
One of the things that makes me want to kill you every fucking game is your refusal to rehash your reasons knowing full well your filter is long and almost entirely useless.
Like I'd ask you to rehash your reasons but I know you're just gonna be an ass about it
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On September 17 2015 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
at some point some nice-looking prose that mostly talks about yourself/game theory that mostly happened in the first 12-24h stops looking good and starts to look quite bad when it is all the substance of your game.
is this directed at me?
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EPT
