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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 10:59 GMT
#603
On September 15 2015 19:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him therefore I am ok with people pushing him. I do not think his contradictory read on Palmar makes him 100 % mafia though.

I think you said the opposite a while ago.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:01 GMT
#606
On September 15 2015 17:37 justanothertownie wrote:
For geript I also share your concerns. For most people I would call rayns case a pretty damn strong case for day1. But geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times.

Like if this is not a townread then what it is?
Because that's how you seem to think geript is acting here as you are referencing to my case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:03 GMT
#610
Okay JAT, if that is not a townread why the fuck do you even make those kinda posts?
And why the fuck do you say "i have given my opinion on geript more than once" when you didn't actually have an opinion until now?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:04 GMT
#614
On September 15 2015 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, too slow marv. I just gave the same scumlist.

hold on let me move some names around

ahahaha^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:05 GMT
#615
On September 15 2015 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay JAT, if that is not a townread why the fuck do you even make those kinda posts?
And why the fuck do you say "i have given my opinion on geript more than once" when you didn't actually have an opinion until now?

Why the fuck do you not bother marv with this shit when he just said the exact same thing about him?

because he made a read.
you made something that looked like a read and i find your follow up to be inconsistent.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:07 GMT
#618
On September 15 2015 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay JAT, if that is not a townread why the fuck do you even make those kinda posts?
And why the fuck do you say "i have given my opinion on geript more than once" when you didn't actually have an opinion until now?

Why the fuck do you not bother marv with this shit when he just said the exact same thing about him?

because he made a read.
you made something that looked like a read and i find your follow up to be inconsistent.

No, he waffled about the exact same thing I did. There is 0 inconsistency in what I said.

yes there is.
you did something that looked like a read.
you even said "i have given my opinion on geript".
then you said it's not in fact a read.
then you give another read on him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:08 GMT
#620
On September 15 2015 20:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay JAT, if that is not a townread why the fuck do you even make those kinda posts?
And why the fuck do you say "i have given my opinion on geript more than once" when you didn't actually have an opinion until now?

Why the fuck do you not bother marv with this shit when he just said the exact same thing about him?

because he made a read.
you made something that looked like a read and i find your follow up to be inconsistent.

No, he waffled about the exact same thing I did. There is 0 inconsistency in what I said.

yes there is.
you did something that looked like a read.
you even said "i have given my opinion on geript".
then you said it's not in fact a read.
then you give another read on him.

The fact that you think that it looked like a read does not mean that it was a read rayn. It wasn't.

well then you are lying when you said "i have given my opinion on geript".
Like literally lying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:15 GMT
#627
well can you go through you thought process regarding the following posts:
On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town.

I think he is town because his reads align with mine.

dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit.

That's like the only read I really agree with.

Okay so why do you disagree with:
ritoky town
rayn town
palmar town
geript mafia

?

My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment.

On September 15 2015 08:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town.

I think he is town because his reads align with mine.

dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit.

That's like the only read I really agree with.

Okay so why do you disagree with:
ritoky town
rayn town
palmar town
geript mafia

?

My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment.

what about ritoky and cephiro?
and how does geript calling palmar mafia for something palmar did after geript called him mafia make geript not scummy?

Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper. Ritoky also belongs in the list with Palmar/geript/you. Forgot him.

On September 15 2015 17:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 16:13 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad that someone else saw a problem in wil post I was paranoid I was going a bit off my rocker with my long hours tonight.

I'm about to sleep but... I'm still not sure that geript is mafia like I'm in the spot where I think he's still probably town.

I just think he can be this inconsistent as town but idk....meh I'm sleeping on it

Yep, Wiles post was bad and he might be mafia.
For geript I also share your concerns. For most people I would call rayns case a pretty damn strong case for day1. But geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts [green]while his towngame is nonsensical at times.
[/QUOTE]
note here, imo you should be reading him town here as per your own definition.
On September 15 2015 19:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 19:38 Palmar wrote:
jat did you ever give an opinion on geript?

More than once.

On September 15 2015 19:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him therefore I am ok with people pushing him. I do not think his contradictory read on Palmar makes him 100 % mafia though.

???????????????????????????

I don't understand how you get to these conclusions because they just do not make any sense to me when i thonk about it from your perspective.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:22 GMT
#630
Okay i try to make it more clear:
I think geript is easily capable of doing what he has done so far as either alignment.

this is fine
Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper.

this is also fine
geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times.

now this is not fine because in this very game he is doing the underlined, and not the bolded, so you SHOULD, as per your own definition have at least a town lean on him.
Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him

but instead you say this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:29 GMT
#635
On September 15 2015 20:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i try to make it more clear:
I think geript is easily capable of doing what he has done so far as either alignment.

this is fine
Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper.

this is also fine
geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times.

now this is not fine because in this very game he is doing the underlined, and not the bolded, so you SHOULD, as per your own definition have at least a town lean on him.
Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him

but instead you say this.

What I describe there are general trends. It does not mean that geript can never be nonsensical as mafia.

this is not a game of "never". this is a game of "most likely".
you should know that.

like;
apparently you don't find any of his posts in themselves scummy.
apparently you don't find any of his posts in themselves townie either.
so everything is left is meta, to make a read, if you make one.
you make one, so explain this:

from the post of yours i quoted, where does geript do the bolded part, and how do you explain he does not do the underlined? Because if you can't, you are going directly against the meta you YOURSELF have on him, and it makes you mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:37 GMT
#639
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:39 GMT
#640
And marv has nothing to do with this.
What a fucking sneaky way to try get out of the argument.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:42 GMT
#646
On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).

not sure if it helps, but from my perspective:

1) geript is more calculated as mafia
2) geript did something scummy
3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1

or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy

well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did.
i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:43 GMT
#650
Like if he had said "i don't think this makes geript mafia" it would be okay.
But he has some urge to go into detail how geript works in games and then fucking go against it.....

WHAT'S THE POINT IF HE IS TOWN?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:48 GMT
#655
Like here is what jat said:

"I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him."

jesus fucking christ
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:50 GMT
#656
On September 15 2015 20:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).

not sure if it helps, but from my perspective:

1) geript is more calculated as mafia
2) geript did something scummy
3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1

or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy

well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did.
i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?

that's why geript is where he is on my list

i just think the possibility he does those posts as town is somewhat higher than you do. even if you are right and it shouldn't be possible.

except no.
jat literally said:
i have no reason to townread geript


you didn't do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:51 GMT
#658
##unvote
##vote justanothertownie
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 11:58 GMT
#661
marv is it normal for Palmar to not townread you here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 12:07 GMT
#664
do you think my case on jat makes sense?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#670
On September 15 2015 21:10 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv is it normal for Palmar to not townread you here?

Do you think marv is town?

yes i am like 99% sure of it.
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