• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:37
CET 08:37
KST 16:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT8Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Corso Formazione Insegnanti Yoga What Game makes you happy and stress free?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2326 users

[M][N] Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia - Page 6

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 33 Next All
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:11 GMT
#949
On September 16 2015 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase...

Which does not make me mafia :p

well then it would make you bad and i don't think you are bad... so i don't pretty much have a choice here.

Yes, you absolutely have a choice. You can choose not to be terrible and lynch someone who you don't have any reason to scumread and who will become easy to read as the game progresses. But if you decide to be retarded I won't stop you from doing it because I am really sick of this shit happening again after gaiden 2.

I am a bit confused.
Even if we discount what i have said on you and what Damdred has (which i agree with btw), why should i read you town?
You have done absolutely nothing to help.

I have done stuff. Not much but I have. And I am not saying you should absolutely townread me. I am saying there is 0 reason to mafia read me. I don't even know what it is you agree with concerning damdred since he never really gave a reason for scumreading me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:12 GMT
#952
On September 16 2015 06:09 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase...

Which does not make me mafia :p

well then it would make you bad and i don't think you are bad... so i don't pretty much have a choice here.

Yes, you absolutely have a choice. You can choose not to be terrible and lynch someone who you don't have any reason to scumread and who will become easy to read as the game progresses. But if you decide to be retarded I won't stop you from doing it because I am really sick of this shit happening again after gaiden 2.


i mean, you could just tell me who the mafia is and why in a concise manner.....then i could read you off that and if i am wrong you can call me an idiot. that's like....how the game werx brah

to me your play has been this:
- complaining
- tearing down others' arguments
- slightly defending yourself
- complaining
- calling koshi dumb
- asking questions and not drawing conclusions

that's not town read material, that's not even give him a free pass for a day material. that's consider lynching material. so, do something if you're town rather than let your ego get in the way.

That's what you will get for now though. I couldn't care less if you like it or not.


Then sub out of the game if you don't want to play.

Oh, I will play. I will make clear who I think is the best lynch before deadline/will sheep who I think has a good case on someone. But I will not put in extra effort because people randomly decide I have to be mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:14 GMT
#956
On September 16 2015 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:07 Koshi wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:03 Koshi wrote:
y u no take bet?

If you insist I will take it. It is pointless though since I never townread Palmar this game.

↓
On September 16 2015 00:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 00:05 Onegu wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Onegu is probs town tbh.

Explain.



VT claim makes me town. Right?

You boys ready?

Koshi
Rayn
Palmar

All town. Get those onegu reads.

Wow, what a revelation.

implying you agree.

Nope, implying I am not impressed. If you look more closely you will find a post where I actually gave a read on Palmar though. Hint: It's not a townread.

I read it, you put him in the back of some silly list.

Yep. Glad you see that you were wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:15 GMT
#957
On September 16 2015 06:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase...

Which does not make me mafia :p

well then it would make you bad and i don't think you are bad... so i don't pretty much have a choice here.

Yes, you absolutely have a choice. You can choose not to be terrible and lynch someone who you don't have any reason to scumread and who will become easy to read as the game progresses. But if you decide to be retarded I won't stop you from doing it because I am really sick of this shit happening again after gaiden 2.

I am a bit confused.
Even if we discount what i have said on you and what Damdred has (which i agree with btw), why should i read you town?
You have done absolutely nothing to help.

I have done stuff. Not much but I have. And I am not saying you should absolutely townread me. I am saying there is 0 reason to mafia read me. I don't even know what it is you agree with concerning damdred since he never really gave a reason for scumreading me.

I actually have a real read. If it isn't true I will spoil it when you flip.

But it is real and worked twice. 2/2. I can proof it.

I don't think you even read me correctly twice. rofl
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:20 GMT
#962
On September 16 2015 06:19 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:09 ritoky wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On September 16 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase...

Which does not make me mafia :p

well then it would make you bad and i don't think you are bad... so i don't pretty much have a choice here.

Yes, you absolutely have a choice. You can choose not to be terrible and lynch someone who you don't have any reason to scumread and who will become easy to read as the game progresses. But if you decide to be retarded I won't stop you from doing it because I am really sick of this shit happening again after gaiden 2.


i mean, you could just tell me who the mafia is and why in a concise manner.....then i could read you off that and if i am wrong you can call me an idiot. that's like....how the game werx brah

to me your play has been this:
- complaining
- tearing down others' arguments
- slightly defending yourself
- complaining
- calling koshi dumb
- asking questions and not drawing conclusions

that's not town read material, that's not even give him a free pass for a day material. that's consider lynching material. so, do something if you're town rather than let your ego get in the way.

That's what you will get for now though. I couldn't care less if you like it or not.


Then sub out of the game if you don't want to play.

Oh, I will play. I will make clear who I think is the best lynch before deadline/will sheep who I think has a good case on someone. But I will not put in extra effort because people randomly decide I have to be mafia.


You shouldn't take my advice to you so lightly.

I will though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:28 GMT
#965
On September 16 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 06:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The last time I saw JAT act like this was in a game where he was townie. rayn, marv, and Palmar were in it as well. I'd like to know exactly what they think of JAT currently. :/

which game would that be?

He is probably talking about gaiden 2. Don't know why he thinks you played though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:48 GMT
#978
There actually is an explanation for this but I won't tell before Moosy tries to do so.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 15 2015 21:49 GMT
#979
On September 16 2015 06:48 geript wrote:
Well I'm going to get some pizza and beer or something.

Solid choice. Had the same a few hours ago.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 07:45 GMT
#1035
Sure, it was certainly me who dragged out the geript thing, lol.

Rayn, can you at least try to explain why that one post makes moosy 100% mafia to you? I don't see it at all. I think regardless of his alignment he just made a mistake saying that you played in gaiden 2.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 08:54 GMT
#1039
On September 16 2015 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 16:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn, can you at least try to explain why that one post makes moosy 100% mafia to you? I don't see it at all. I think regardless of his alignment he just made a mistake saying that you played in gaiden 2.

Because townies do not go into a game, read it, and then tell players who didn't play were in it -> AND make a read out of it.
Last time the dude tried to tell me i was mafia with someone i had never been mafia with...

Why does mafia do it though? His point was clearly that he saw me playing like this as town which is true with people of this game also in the game. I don't know why he thought you were also in the game (the only explanation I see here is that you actually signed up but got booted right before the start - I was also really surprised that you weren't in the game once it started because I was sure you had signed up) but that just seems like a dumb mistake and not alignment indicative to me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 08:58 GMT
#1040
On September 16 2015 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean.. fuck.. it's hard to explain.
It's like he is prompting a read out of certain people based on stuff that is not there.
It's like "here i challenge you to tell me what's different here regarding this" when that is not the point at all, not to even mention it's bullshit in the first place because he cannot possibly think so if he doesn't even remember who were in the game and who weren't.

I don't know how this is bullshit at all. I just played a game playing exactly the same way where I was also town. A "here i challenge you to tell me what's different here regarding this" is absolutely reasonable if people call me mafia for meta reasons.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:07 GMT
#1042
On September 16 2015 18:05 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Its hard not to sheep rayn here. I think he flips way more then 3/13 and if hes town hes vt anyway so im pretty sure hes a great mathematical day 1 lynch, oh and he jumped on my wagon when it was the cool thing to do. ALtho rayn you really gotta work on explaining things

How about you explain why you think Moosy is likely mafia instead. If you think it is hard not to sheep rayn you have to understand his argument so the bolded makes 0 sense. Go ahead and explain.
There is nothing mathematical about it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:16 GMT
#1045
On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.

And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life

THERE IS NO MATH HERE.

What is rayns argument and why do you think it is sheepworthy? Answer the question instead of sidestepping.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:19 GMT
#1047
On September 16 2015 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 17:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean.. fuck.. it's hard to explain.
It's like he is prompting a read out of certain people based on stuff that is not there.
It's like "here i challenge you to tell me what's different here regarding this" when that is not the point at all, not to even mention it's bullshit in the first place because he cannot possibly think so if he doesn't even remember who were in the game and who weren't.

I don't know how this is bullshit at all. I just played a game playing exactly the same way where I was also town. A "here i challenge you to tell me what's different here regarding this" is absolutely reasonable if people call me mafia for meta reasons.

It is not the read on you in itself, it's how he does it.
Like instead of lookign at your actions in this game he is trying to prove you are town via another game which doesn't make any sense. Like he is making a read based on something that should have not anything to do with the read in the first place.

How is this true?

He is saying I am playing like I did last game. That is looking at my actions this game if you ask me (otherwise he couldn't say this) and it is also highly relevant.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:22 GMT
#1052
On September 16 2015 18:20 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 18:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.

And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life

THERE IS NO MATH HERE.

What is rayns argument and why do you think it is sheepworthy? Answer the question instead of sidestepping.


theres math in everything you do in life lol? A flow chart is math man. Go read my read list from yesterday. I posted rayn as my top town and moosy as top mafia. Im pretty sure this was before rayn was going after him but I might be wrong. Then rayn calls him out for lying about being mafia. Moosy denies it. I believe my town read over my scum read. Like you im not really following rayns current train of thought but I believe he believes it and thats what matters.

you coulda got all that from reading me

If you are town you should be interested in rayns thought process instead of blindly sheeping him though. Being town doesn't make him right. Your disinterest in this is at best retarded and at worst really scummy.

How on earth does "it is hard not to sheep rayn here" make any fucking sense if you don't even understand what he is saying?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:23 GMT
#1053
On September 16 2015 18:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 18:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2015 17:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean.. fuck.. it's hard to explain.
It's like he is prompting a read out of certain people based on stuff that is not there.
It's like "here i challenge you to tell me what's different here regarding this" when that is not the point at all, not to even mention it's bullshit in the first place because he cannot possibly think so if he doesn't even remember who were in the game and who weren't.

I don't know how this is bullshit at all. I just played a game playing exactly the same way where I was also town. A "here i challenge you to tell me what's different here regarding this" is absolutely reasonable if people call me mafia for meta reasons.

It is not the read on you in itself, it's how he does it.
Like instead of lookign at your actions in this game he is trying to prove you are town via another game which doesn't make any sense. Like he is making a read based on something that should have not anything to do with the read in the first place.

How is this true?

He is saying I am playing like I did last game. That is looking at my actions this game if you ask me (otherwise he couldn't say this) and it is also highly relevant.

No it isn't. Your posting style is really similar regardless of your affiliation. He is not looking the motivation behind your posting and making a read out of it, he is using some bullshit reasoning to say you are town. It 0% matters how you posted in another game because you always post alike when you are town or when you are mafia. It matters WHY you post what you do.

You are assuming Moosy knows this. I don't think he ever played in a game where I was mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:25 GMT
#1055
On September 16 2015 18:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I explained that. I dont know the meta I have to trust me non meta on a player to decide if their meta reads are valid

Rayns stuff on moosy has NOTHING to do with meta. Literally nothing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:26 GMT
#1058
On September 16 2015 18:25 marvellosity wrote:
only 11 pages? result.

Stop complaining and start reading please. It would be nice if you left your mafia range today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:27 GMT
#1061
On September 16 2015 18:26 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 18:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 18:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I explained that. I dont know the meta I have to trust me non meta on a player to decide if their meta reads are valid

Rayns stuff on moosy has NOTHING to do with meta. Literally nothing.


its about another game...

You do not need to know the other game to evaluate his argument which should be obvious since rayn didn't even play in that game.

What is this shit?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 16 2015 09:28 GMT
#1062
On September 16 2015 18:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 18:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 16 2015 18:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I explained that. I dont know the meta I have to trust me non meta on a player to decide if their meta reads are valid

Rayns stuff on moosy has NOTHING to do with meta. Literally nothing.

It actually has alot to do with meta.

Ok, but you did not say anything about meta so far and I guess since you haven't you "can't" for some inexplicable reason. So regarding Wiles crap this is irrelevant.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 33 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft556
SortOf 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 122
scan(afreeca) 62
GoRush 25
Purpose 16
Bale 14
SilentControl 13
Dota 2
XaKoH 397
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv323
Other Games
summit1g9318
C9.Mang0360
Tasteless224
Mew2King108
Trikslyr27
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick869
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH188
• StrangeGG 48
• Gemini_19 11
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1345
• Stunt592
• HappyZerGling97
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 24m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4h 24m
Replay Cast
16h 24m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 1h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 2h
KCM Race Survival
1d 2h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 4h
OSC
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.