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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 10:37 GMT
#1119
it wasn't imperial, it was XXX
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 10:40 GMT
#1121
JAT could also be mafia. I am actually serious that he could be. There's a lot of argumentative loud people in this game and there is plenty to stuff I talk about. I just get this overall feeling that he's always sort of in the background. Maybe I'm just ignoring his posts but whenever people are talking in the thread (for example this morning) it feels like he is offering way less to the discussion than everyone else who is talking.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 10:41 GMT
#1122
On September 16 2015 19:38 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not sure you can equivocate the 2, tbh.

one he was hard-defending a scumbuddy based on previous soul reads

here he's just giving out townreads. even if he's mafia it's hard to pick out an agenda there, unlike in XXX

Maybe 2 of me/koshi/rayn are mafia!
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 10:42 GMT
#1124
On September 16 2015 19:41 marvellosity wrote:
the towniest thing about waffle is his first post where he interjects a random comment and is happy just to sit and leave it there and not post again for ages.

which does create some waffle.

aaayyyyy
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:31 GMT
#1164
On September 16 2015 20:02 justanothertownie wrote:
I think damdred started the game throwing townreads around and then at some point just fell off a cliff.

On the surface this makes Damdred town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:36 GMT
#1169
On September 16 2015 20:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 20:31 Palmar wrote:
On September 16 2015 20:02 justanothertownie wrote:
I think damdred started the game throwing townreads around and then at some point just fell off a cliff.

On the surface this makes Damdred town.

Why?

The first part, sorry.

I've already explained. Like the #1 reason I call Damdred mafia every game is because he's being timid and careful with reads. If I assume that I'm right that he's more backwards as mafia, his coming out of the gates with a bunch of careless reads is towny.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:38 GMT
#1174
On September 16 2015 20:20 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Cephiro


1) lied with first post, or tried to make joke around OP. Both are scummy.
2) overreaction / overdefensive
3) Too sensible and too many questions leading nowhere.
4) Palmar 100% townread on Cephiro


On September 16 2015 20:38 Palmar wrote:
##unvote
##vote Cephiro


What now Koshi?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:40 GMT
#1178
On September 16 2015 20:35 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, want to lynch marv?

He just defended me, which I liked.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:44 GMT
#1184
On September 16 2015 20:43 Koshi wrote:
There is no way town Palmar goes from 100% town cephiro to voting him without restating his initial townread.

It's more of a reaction test. I don't actually think Cephiro is going to flip mafia, although it's more likely than it was before.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:45 GMT
#1185
not even test, I just wanted to see what you'd say.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:50 GMT
#1194
Wile could actually be mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:55 GMT
#1203
There is no way your responses last game were in your mafia range jat. That's just not true.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 11:58 GMT
#1207
On September 16 2015 20:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 20:55 Palmar wrote:
There is no way your responses last game were in your mafia range jat. That's just not true.

I assure you they were.

This is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, but no, no way.

Turning around me with tunnelvision is not an easy thing to do. I am 100% certain you would not have pulled it off as mafia.

Also why, precisely, do you think marv is mafia?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 12:04 GMT
#1215
to be fair marv told me pregame in an unrelated discussion (he is the co-host for the game I'm running) that he'd be mostly unavailable this week.

Like I don't want to townread him based on that as it's unrelated, but I've sort of been looking over the fact that his activity is slightly less than normal.

Also, @marv, do you think jat calling you out makes him mafia?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 13:06 GMT
#1238
I sort of agree with marv. I don't think it's particularly scummy to incorrectly recall a playerlist from a random game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 13:07 GMT
#1239
oh wait.

you're saying that he didn't actually incorrectly recall it, and that it was an intentional mistake.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 13:07 GMT
#1241
@jat do you think it's within your mafia range to attack a town marv like you've just done?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 13:11 GMT
#1244
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 13:17 GMT
#1250
On September 16 2015 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
i don't even know what levels are

I just saw people use it in that 80 player game I played in.

The idea is that a level 1 player will be very straightforward. For example LightningStrike is permanently on level 1. Level 1 play is often very good play, but it simply means playing mafia like you'd expect. Try not to act suspicious, try to blend in, shoot the townies who are right, don't try to wifom/big play.

Any levels beyond that seem to be when you start to do things that don't make sense on the surface. An example is to do something too scummy to be scum, to shoot people who townread you and try to wifom that into bending other players to you etc etc.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 16 2015 13:18 GMT
#1252
On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

Trying is very different to succeeding.
Computer says mafia
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