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On September 26 2015 01:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote: I was about to ask you who you would lynch if geript was off the table. What do you think about damdreds defense of geript? Is he just wrong? He seems pretty convinced. He could be wrong, and he could be right. I am in no way certain geript is scum, it's just by far the most likely. I don't think it's scummy from damdred at all. :/
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On September 26 2015 01:56 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote: Explain to me why geript said way back on day 1 that I was being serious and called me mafia for it when it was not true. Explain why geript blew up on cephiro (remember, not that much before that I had given him a "maybe not mafia" read mostly because he was being nice). Explain why geript is mad at jat for being wrong and bad when he also thinks jat is mafia in which case jat is being GOOD and not bad. Explain why geript claimed on.... day 3? that he was doing everything he could with his little time, when in reality he spent the previous 2 days talking about dicks.
I'll listen damdred, but I'm not going to change my mind on a tonal "he sounds like town" thing. Firstly this isn't a tonal thing this is just an overarching game play thing with a mixture of meta thrown in. 1) Mistakes happen, I can't really explain it tbh geript has to answer this himself and I can't speak to how people feel about another. 2) Geeipt blows up as either alignment kinda a nai type thing and he blows up on whoever is in his path 3) idk just seems nai I understand not wanting to lose to it though. I just don't think it makes him scum. (this one about dicks) 4) This is worrying but it comes from town geript more than scum geeipt. Last newb game we played he did the same thing to Yamato and kels over misunderstanding and bad tunnels. How does a mistake like that happen? How can geript call someone mafia for something that never happened? How can he say there is 0 analysis in my filter?
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On September 26 2015 02:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2015 01:52 Palmar wrote:On September 26 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote: I was about to ask you who you would lynch if geript was off the table. What do you think about damdreds defense of geript? Is he just wrong? He seems pretty convinced. He could be wrong, and he could be right. I am in no way certain geript is scum, it's just by far the most likely. I don't think it's scummy from damdred at all. :/ I am just going to assume this smiley means "tell me more about why it isn't scummy Palmar". I'm mostly assuming that because it's a pretty clever reason. If damdred is mafia I expect one of two things to be his play here. 1) Take the "easy" lynch and run with it. Just vote geript, rehash some reasons given by others and watch him die. 2) Really push against the lynch and call people bad/stupid for maximum cred. But instead what he's doing is 3) sort of defend him and give reasons, while also resigning to the fact that he might just get lynched anyway. I'm not saying it's impossible he's mafia because of this, it's just that he has chosen a very specific and strange path to behave about it if he is. Ok, but what if he goes 2)? He might succeed and we are lynching cephiro instead. Now he is backed in a corner because he can never lynch geript. That's not very clever. Better to disagree with the lynch while still letting it happen.
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Like, mafia damdred is in the ideal position if we mislynch geript today. He can just say "told ya" and keep pushing cephiro for the win later.
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On September 26 2015 02:06 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 02:03 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2015 02:01 Palmar wrote:On September 26 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2015 01:52 Palmar wrote:On September 26 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote: I was about to ask you who you would lynch if geript was off the table. What do you think about damdreds defense of geript? Is he just wrong? He seems pretty convinced. He could be wrong, and he could be right. I am in no way certain geript is scum, it's just by far the most likely. I don't think it's scummy from damdred at all. :/ I am just going to assume this smiley means "tell me more about why it isn't scummy Palmar". I'm mostly assuming that because it's a pretty clever reason. If damdred is mafia I expect one of two things to be his play here. 1) Take the "easy" lynch and run with it. Just vote geript, rehash some reasons given by others and watch him die. 2) Really push against the lynch and call people bad/stupid for maximum cred. But instead what he's doing is 3) sort of defend him and give reasons, while also resigning to the fact that he might just get lynched anyway. I'm not saying it's impossible he's mafia because of this, it's just that he has chosen a very specific and strange path to behave about it if he is. Ok, but what if he goes 2)? He might succeed and we are lynching cephiro instead. Now he is backed in a corner because he can never lynch geript. That's not very clever. Better to disagree with the lynch while still letting it happen. well in that case his target would have to be you (which sorta might fit). If geript survives in that would even mean damdred has at least one very likely "ally".Hell, if damdred is mafia, his optimal play (if possible) is to defend geript and lynch ceph, shoot me, then let ritoky and geript tinfoil lynch you. That's actually a great point. But I really don't see the shot on you. And I also don't see ritoky mislynching me ever.
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I sorta feel like we absolutely need to kill one of geript and cephiro today. Potentially going into LYLO with both lynchbaity players still alive seems like a nightmare.
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The problem is though - if geript is not mafia and we mislynch someone else today then we are utterly fucked. Because geript will not suddenly grow a brain or put any thought into the game if that is the case. He will still be useless and vote me which might very well lose us the game since mafia just has to do the same and it is game over.
Not being able to nolynch is goddamn retarded btw. 2 votes are still enough to lynch someone.
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On September 26 2015 02:55 geript wrote: Why in the fuck should I or anyone care about what Ceph says. Palmar is town. Damdred is town. Voila. Ezpz. It's the most auto thing ever. You lynch JAT/Ceph and one of them is scum. You lynch JAT first because he'll 100% wiggle out at lylo. There's only 6 people. Ritoky is confirmed. Why the fuck are people trying to find scum instead of town. It's fucking retarded.
Also JAT has asked why I'm town like 4 times today. It's been explained 4 times. Do you guys really think he's some mentally retarded player to need it that often? Like he's clearly mentally deficient but I'd expect his iq is 70-80. Like wtf? Well, I guess you are an expert in this field so you have to be right.
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But cool. I made my decision. Today geript dies and if he isn't mafia and just an asshole/trashtier player I will figure this out in LYLO. I will not tolerate this kind of play in my town.
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On September 26 2015 03:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 03:04 justanothertownie wrote: But cool. I made my decision. Today geript dies and if he isn't mafia and just an asshole/trashtier player I will figure this out in LYLO. I will not tolerate this kind of play in my town. Course you don't scum ^ You should be careful about accusing other people of certain things when you aren't even able to talk in your own language dude :p
That's the last post I am wasting by talking to you.
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On September 26 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote: Yeah geripts mad town.
Here's the thing geeipt, lets say you get lynched here no way ever jat gets lynched in lylo. If you don't get lynched palmar and I at least listen rationally. And can make a decent decision or look at others.
what's the better option lynched jat has 0 chance of lynch or take out ceph and have people listen to cases in lylo. That won't help. The guy hasn't made a rational argument all game.
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That post is better than I expected :/
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On September 26 2015 03:30 Cephiro wrote: Friendly reminder that no-one out of the remaining players except for ritoky voted for Moosy, so you're not really alone in that sense (even though I'll give you credit for being correct on that read.) Rayns push on moosy was so obviously awful noone should get any credit for that. But if we are talking about it anyways - hey, who was the one fighting rayn about it? Yes, it was me. Does geript care? No. Because I obviously did no analysis all game.
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On September 26 2015 03:40 Cephiro wrote: Like I more than well understand geript's frustration because while you have a lot of valid points and good things in your filter, there's just so fucking much unnecessary shit it makes it a pain reading through your filter and doing it properly takes forever.
That's not what geript is saying. Geript is saying I am mafia for not having any analysis in there when I probably did the most analysis out of everyone in this fucking game while all he did for days and days now is call me mafia without providing any reasons as to why. No, regardless of his alignment his frustration isn't understandable in the slightest and his read certainly isn't either. And combined they make even less sense because if I am mafia then I am playing pretty well and will probably win the game.
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On September 26 2015 03:50 ritoky wrote: hey everybody. sorry for being gone so long, sometimes stuff gets in the way. It's cool. Will you be availabe now? We could need an unbiased perspective here.
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On September 26 2015 03:52 ritoky wrote: yeah, i am reading the 10-12 pages i was gone for. You mean the 4 pages.
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On September 26 2015 03:54 Damdred wrote: I'll try to condense
1) I don't think you can call what I did d1 talking shit about jat? 2) Lesding up to a lynch I never as town or scum really push anyone up until hour 12 left or later that's when the real wagons take off. And that's what happens. 3) your interactions with Marv and his with you aren't as concrete as people make them out to be. 4) I've explained my geript read multiple times at this point so ceph isn't reading 5) I focus on whoever I want to when I'm most suspicious. Jat looked townier d3 when I came back then he did before oh well. I'll have to look at him in lylo which will be a headache.
Overall I guess the post isn't bad but a lot of it if any doesn't make me mafia. He's calling me scum for reacting to the same situation differently over time. There's only so much cred on a wagon initially then fucking off leaves doubts its just how it works.
I really don't care if I get lynched meh. Yes, yes you absolutely can. I don't think I will lynch cephiro today after those posts.
It's between geript and damdred. And I really cba suffering through another day of geript being alive so for me to change my vote there has to be a damn good reason to.
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On September 26 2015 04:01 Damdred wrote: I didn't talk shit about you d1 you didn't do anything d1 We had this already. I will not repeat myself.
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On September 26 2015 04:02 ritoky wrote: jat bitched and moaned for about 40 hours of day 1 about how everything everyone said was crap. Your point?
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On September 26 2015 04:05 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:02 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2015 04:02 ritoky wrote: jat bitched and moaned for about 40 hours of day 1 about how everything everyone said was crap. Your point? idk i know i talked shit on you d1 about it, dunno why he cares. it was reasonable to talk shit on you about it during the first bit. Yes, but at that point I really hadn't done much. Damdred never changed his mind even though I put in a considerable amount of effort before I left on lynch day.
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