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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 11:14 GMT
#625
On September 15 2015 20:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
marv

geript
rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)

onegu
Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy

warwaffle

Wile

jat


oh dear

Not bad. If this is serious.

it wasn't, and it's a great relief to me that you approve of my randomly moved-about list. when i start thinking the same as you, then i get worried
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 11:14 GMT
#626
On September 15 2015 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:
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On September 15 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
can we get out of this semantics trap?

jat at least did make comment on geript more than once (i checked) although he didn't say much about his alignment

like opinion != alignment read right?

jat isn't going to be mafia or town because of this

Thank you captain obvious.

anytime babe
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 11:40 GMT
#642
On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).

not sure if it helps, but from my perspective:

1) geript is more calculated as mafia
2) geript did something scummy
3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1

or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 11:42 GMT
#647
yeah it actually is lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 11:44 GMT
#651
On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).

not sure if it helps, but from my perspective:

1) geript is more calculated as mafia
2) geript did something scummy
3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1

or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy

well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did.
i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?

that's why geript is where he is on my list

i just think the possibility he does those posts as town is somewhat higher than you do. even if you are right and it shouldn't be possible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:06 GMT
#662
On September 15 2015 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv is it normal for Palmar to not townread you here?

historically no, although he has been writing me off as town near the start of games in more recent times.

i'm fairly sure there will be more to come, so i'm not going to make anything of it for now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:07 GMT
#663
er, *historically yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:22 GMT
#674
On September 15 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
do you think my case on jat makes sense?

it makes sense but i do not think it makes him mafia, i think it makes him jat.

last game made me really itchy about these early jat wagons.

normally (always?) when jat is mafia you can snare him near the end of the day when he's not quite as capable of pushing interesting things strongly. not because he faffed about over geript in some kinda maybe-weird way.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:23 GMT
#675
On September 15 2015 21:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
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On September 15 2015 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
so no one answered my question. I didnt care that much but it was a free town read and kind of a test

I find this difficult to believe.

and yes i am far behind.


why is this difficult to believe? im not a beginner I do things to get reads and start conversations. Your thing is apparently to ask stupid questions. Its a great way to start off getting reads...

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On September 15 2015 19:51 marvellosity wrote:
On September 15 2015 14:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
If someone says I dont care if your mafia. im going to take notice and bring it up. Thats basically what he did and its unacceptable . I understand it can be rage but in that case we want to get him back to common sense

can you explain why this is unacceptable?

can you explain to me what "unacceptable" means exactly with regards to his alignment?


Wut? If its your first time playing with someone and they go im not playing to win for town why the hell cant I make a comment about it? this one comment is so overblown and I feel like your only mentioning it because others have and you want to fit in

You've not answered my questions, at all

try again.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:24 GMT
#676
by the way, if you are "not a beginner" you should not think asking the thread for meta/comments on other players should qualify as a "test"

those 2 do not go together.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:28 GMT
#678
On September 15 2015 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
normally (always?) when jat is mafia you can snare him near the end of the day when he's not quite as capable of pushing interesting things strongly. not because he faffed about over geript in some kinda maybe-weird way.

i know this is true.
like the gaiden game i went to read your filter (when we were trying to 5min-solve-the-game with Artanis on N1) and saw you had 19 pages, saw you did not lynch neither of palmar and jat and decided you all three have to be town.

well my vote is where it is atm because i feel this the strongest.

i think your geript stuff is better. why do you think your jat stuff > geript stuff?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:31 GMT
#681
On September 15 2015 21:29 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I dont give a shit about your meta. I wanted to see who was cooperative. Anyway I took my medicine back to bed.

can you explain why this is unacceptable? - I did answer this question in detail. Its not right to not care if someones mafia or wrong. Im going to call you out on shit like this thats the kind of person I am its admitting your not playing to win.

can you explain to me what "unacceptable" means exactly with regards to his alignment?
I dont know what this qeustion even means but ill try . I said he could say it as town but it is a scummy trait at level 1 not knowing the guy

Arguing with you isn't going to get me very far.

Could you maybe just tell me whether you got anything out of your "test"?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 12:45 GMT
#699
On September 15 2015 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:42 Palmar wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:41 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
palmer why do you town read moose? I think i mis quoted that

Because he said something that first time (?) mafia players would have a hard time saying.

again that is a lie.

how is it a lie?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 13:03 GMT
#736
On September 15 2015 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 15 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
Although, from your perspective, do you not think it's scummy of him to lie about his experience? What is the purpose of that?

i don't know yet. i am not entirely sure if it makes him mafia or not.
i would rather not discuss this.

i just want to point out lies when someone does it.

wtf is going on?

how does a townie ever make that lie?

what am i missing?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 13:05 GMT
#739
On September 15 2015 22:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
Although, from your perspective, do you not think it's scummy of him to lie about his experience? What is the purpose of that?

i don't know yet. i am not entirely sure if it makes him mafia or not.
i would rather not discuss this.

i just want to point out lies when someone does it.

yeah but you can't just point out lies and then go "but it's all top secret. you need clearance level 6 to access that information".

Like you've literally introduced more chaos into the game with this, because I believe you, or rather, I believe you believe what you're saying. And it's extremely frustrating I can't do anything with that information because top secret.

^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 13:14 GMT
#742
On September 15 2015 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am sorry i cannot lay out the reasoning and you should probably not think it's alignment indicative because that's Moosy we are talking about.

As i said i think what he does and how he presents his reads and what his reads are are the telling part on his alignment. I will tell you later on what i think of those.

this is very irritating because none of this makes sense to me.

i don't see how or why a townie would EVER lie about playing mafia before

i can easily see why a mafia would lie about not rolling mafia before if he thought he could get away with it.

so what do?!

the only way you can make me happy here is either
1) you explain
2) you tell me there's a good chance Moosy would know that you knew he was lying (which would therefore make his lie dumb and less likely to be a mafia punt)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 15:28 GMT
#784
On September 16 2015 00:12 geript wrote:
Here's what I know:
1. I'm sheeping Marv today.
2. Rayn is probably town. A few hesitations but eh.
3. I might be wrong on Damdred. After sleeping, I think I might just be really dumb with that read.
4. Moosey is town. What I've seen of his townplay is that Moosy is pretty all over the place in a pretty in effective way while still being rather confident in his reads. The only "questionable" thing so far is his Palmar read.
5. Still don't like Plammar.
Otherwise, fiik

Clear this up for me. How did you write that he was taking things seriously when you admitted that only came after your post?

Like I literally want to know what moved you to write those words at that specific time.

The thing is, I actually do understand what you're saying about Palmar and why you're saying it (although atm i don't find it significant like you), the read itself isn't nonsense, just the timings of how it played out.

what gives?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 15:29 GMT
#786
Moosy: is rayn lying when he said you've played scum before?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 15:36 GMT
#792
On September 16 2015 00:30 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
Moosy: is rayn lying when he said you've played scum before?



Does it matter?

yes. of course it does.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2015 15:37 GMT
#793
On September 16 2015 00:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, back off on this shit between me and rayn and VT/Mafia history. Like it's something that I understand from him and I'm sure he understands me understanding him about our mutual understanding. Either way that stuff is irrelevant.

do you understand why he's saying the things he's saying, then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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