EPTOn September 24 2015 23:52 geript wrote:
What they don't do is post the underlined. The reason why is because it confirms I'm stressed (which btw, I don't get stressed as scum ever). It's called mod confirmed for a reason.
This is quite literally the worst fucking post ever and JAT shoudl 100% be lynched for it.
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On September 24 2015 17:35 justanothertownie wrote:
The reason to do what he is doing is exactly this. People calling him town for it. To the bolded: and that's why you do not do this. If he is the last mafia pushing for the easy lynches will get him scumread. His only chance of winning is being townread enough to survive today which he thinks he can achieve by being retarded and irrelevant again.
The marv/Palmar thing is pure speculation. If marv feels Palmar isn't towny enough he will feel the need to call him mafia/not townread him - it was the same in assassination.
1. Wrong. The host will moderate this kind of post each and every time regardless who posts it. It doesn't matter if he thinks the person in question really feels this way or not.
2. WIFOM and bullshit.
3.-5. Yes, and that's why you are mafia. You do not give a fuck about being right this game. You act retardedly to not have to push something good and later you try to clear yourself by saying this shit. If it is so clear to you now that you haven't been reasonable then why the fuck were you like this in the first place and continue to be right now?
7. I have 0 fucking reason to shoot Koshi there. Koshi wanted to lynch marv above all and then Palmar. He said he would sheep my case on marv. So what you are trying to sell is that I not only did not shoot the tracker I was convinced was multi-shot (enough reason to clear me alone) but Koshi instead who would have sheeped me that day. Ok, you might argue "well, if he wants to kill marv then it makes sense to shoot him". That is true. But then why the heck am I killing him and STILL push and lynch marv? It makes absolutely no sense for me to do that.
8. See 1.
9. See 3.-5.
10. Yes, yes you do.
People won't lynch me now and they also won't in LYLO because I am obviously town.
On September 24 2015 08:27 Damdred wrote:
Ok so, this is a bit wifom argument to a degree but I think its correct.
More than likely geript is going to be lynched today with an outside shot of me. I believe geript is town and I know I'm town. Here's the reasons I think geript is town.
1) A real lack of a drive to survive. If he's scum he needs to get a mislynch to get into mylo and then another to win the game. The obvious play here is to push either Damdred or Ceph today. Instead he takes the much more suicidal way of going about the voting he tackles jat.
2) Building on that Geeipt has one person who thinks he has a shot of not being scum here (me). And I don't have the thread presence to save him obviously so what's the play? Poke at what most consider town jat and hope you get ignored?
While this is somewhat nai and a bit of conjecture I don't believe geript would do this as scum he would more than likely start pushing ver or myself to get into a winnable situation. And its not where he's at or where he's going.
Besides that he has been incredibly wrong this game has had 0 impact on the lynch and just doesn't care as much and I see this coming from a more town aligned geript.
Its a lot of feelings and what I expect from geript but id he's just going to suicide he would just concede probably.
Ok so, this is a bit wifom argument to a degree but I think its correct.
More than likely geript is going to be lynched today with an outside shot of me. I believe geript is town and I know I'm town. Here's the reasons I think geript is town.
1) A real lack of a drive to survive. If he's scum he needs to get a mislynch to get into mylo and then another to win the game. The obvious play here is to push either Damdred or Ceph today. Instead he takes the much more suicidal way of going about the voting he tackles jat.
2) Building on that Geeipt has one person who thinks he has a shot of not being scum here (me). And I don't have the thread presence to save him obviously so what's the play? Poke at what most consider town jat and hope you get ignored?
While this is somewhat nai and a bit of conjecture I don't believe geript would do this as scum he would more than likely start pushing ver or myself to get into a winnable situation. And its not where he's at or where he's going.
Besides that he has been incredibly wrong this game has had 0 impact on the lynch and just doesn't care as much and I see this coming from a more town aligned geript.
Its a lot of feelings and what I expect from geript but id he's just going to suicide he would just concede probably.
The reason to do what he is doing is exactly this. People calling him town for it. To the bolded: and that's why you do not do this. If he is the last mafia pushing for the easy lynches will get him scumread. His only chance of winning is being townread enough to survive today which he thinks he can achieve by being retarded and irrelevant again.
On September 24 2015 13:17 geript wrote:
So for why Palmar is town.
When Marv/Palmar are mafia together, I've always seen them confirm each other and work to utilize their thread capability with each other. You know, they use their names and ability to push to get people lynched; often they'll push two people and consolidate on one. It's basically how Marv operates with any vet who can control a thread in the slightest. But Marv was happy to not coordinate with Palmar and vice versa. Marv seconded my early read on Palmar (although not to the same extent) and was happy to remove the townreads on him (or try); Palmar was happy to question Marv from D2.
I'm town for lots of reasons:
1. Mod confirmed on N1 when I blew up on Ceph.
2. Gave power to Marv. I'm good at mafia; but I don't think I'm good enough to simulate my town game by just sheeping (scumbuddy) Marv. I'd pull a Kita and just be less active while trying to be pushy.
3. I've been super wrong. I think I made 1 comment on thinking Wile was scum and it wasn't even fleshed out. As scum, I bother to be at least partially right. I dont' push it, but I at least bother to save room in case my partners are complete fucking retards and I have to hard carry another game.
4. Zero fucks given. I can't think of a single scum game where I've given zero fucks. I think I actually try harder as mafia than as town on average because it's just more fun.
5. I've been in no way reasonable the entire game. When have I been scum and not been at least reasonably reasonable?
6. JAT can suck my big hairy town balls.
7. Because I'd just kill Scott and not risk it. Also, i wouldn't have rb'd Koshi. Like I have really solid NKs; I lost a game because Rayn modkilled himself and I deferred to Palmar for NKs even though I knew mine were better (and would've won us the game btw). There's literally no reason for me to kill Koshi over Scott. On the other hand, there's every reason for JAT to kill him to shut him up because JAT will just try to spam his way to victory
8. I'M FUCKING MODCONFIRMED. HOW CAN DECONDUO BE SURE IF i'M FUCKING STRESSED IF I'M FUCKING SCUM????
9. Because I don't care how I look. I haven't at all. When I'm mafia, I care to be well ahead of the "front" of the kill list line. Often, I'm leading the kill list.
10. Do I really need more.
I don't know if it's Ceph or JAT, but honestly, JAT needs to die 100% because there's no way people would lynch him in lylo and there's no way town wins then.
So for why Palmar is town.
When Marv/Palmar are mafia together, I've always seen them confirm each other and work to utilize their thread capability with each other. You know, they use their names and ability to push to get people lynched; often they'll push two people and consolidate on one. It's basically how Marv operates with any vet who can control a thread in the slightest. But Marv was happy to not coordinate with Palmar and vice versa. Marv seconded my early read on Palmar (although not to the same extent) and was happy to remove the townreads on him (or try); Palmar was happy to question Marv from D2.
I'm town for lots of reasons:
1. Mod confirmed on N1 when I blew up on Ceph.
2. Gave power to Marv. I'm good at mafia; but I don't think I'm good enough to simulate my town game by just sheeping (scumbuddy) Marv. I'd pull a Kita and just be less active while trying to be pushy.
3. I've been super wrong. I think I made 1 comment on thinking Wile was scum and it wasn't even fleshed out. As scum, I bother to be at least partially right. I dont' push it, but I at least bother to save room in case my partners are complete fucking retards and I have to hard carry another game.
4. Zero fucks given. I can't think of a single scum game where I've given zero fucks. I think I actually try harder as mafia than as town on average because it's just more fun.
5. I've been in no way reasonable the entire game. When have I been scum and not been at least reasonably reasonable?
6. JAT can suck my big hairy town balls.
7. Because I'd just kill Scott and not risk it. Also, i wouldn't have rb'd Koshi. Like I have really solid NKs; I lost a game because Rayn modkilled himself and I deferred to Palmar for NKs even though I knew mine were better (and would've won us the game btw). There's literally no reason for me to kill Koshi over Scott. On the other hand, there's every reason for JAT to kill him to shut him up because JAT will just try to spam his way to victory
8. I'M FUCKING MODCONFIRMED. HOW CAN DECONDUO BE SURE IF i'M FUCKING STRESSED IF I'M FUCKING SCUM????
9. Because I don't care how I look. I haven't at all. When I'm mafia, I care to be well ahead of the "front" of the kill list line. Often, I'm leading the kill list.
10. Do I really need more.
I don't know if it's Ceph or JAT, but honestly, JAT needs to die 100% because there's no way people would lynch him in lylo and there's no way town wins then.
The marv/Palmar thing is pure speculation. If marv feels Palmar isn't towny enough he will feel the need to call him mafia/not townread him - it was the same in assassination.
1. Wrong. The host will moderate this kind of post each and every time regardless who posts it. It doesn't matter if he thinks the person in question really feels this way or not.
2. WIFOM and bullshit.
3.-5. Yes, and that's why you are mafia. You do not give a fuck about being right this game. You act retardedly to not have to push something good and later you try to clear yourself by saying this shit. If it is so clear to you now that you haven't been reasonable then why the fuck were you like this in the first place and continue to be right now?
7. I have 0 fucking reason to shoot Koshi there. Koshi wanted to lynch marv above all and then Palmar. He said he would sheep my case on marv. So what you are trying to sell is that I not only did not shoot the tracker I was convinced was multi-shot (enough reason to clear me alone) but Koshi instead who would have sheeped me that day. Ok, you might argue "well, if he wants to kill marv then it makes sense to shoot him". That is true. But then why the heck am I killing him and STILL push and lynch marv? It makes absolutely no sense for me to do that.
8. See 1.
9. See 3.-5.
10. Yes, yes you do.
People won't lynch me now and they also won't in LYLO because I am obviously town.
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On September 17 2015 05:54 deconduo wrote:
Less of the aggressiveness please. I understand things can be stressful, but no need to start insulting people.
Less of the aggressiveness please. I understand things can be stressful, but no need to start insulting people.
What they don't do is post the underlined. The reason why is because it confirms I'm stressed (which btw, I don't get stressed as scum ever). It's called mod confirmed for a reason.
This is quite literally the worst fucking post ever and JAT shoudl 100% be lynched for it.
There is no reason why your rl wouldn't stress you just because you are mafia, lol.
