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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 21:53 GMT
#2475
So the thing to take out of it is that the track on damdred does not mean anything at all.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 21:57 GMT
#2477
On September 21 2015 06:55 scott31337 wrote:
So shall we get the Marv wagon rolling then?

Or do you have a better suggestion?

Either that or damdred. I am fine with both.

I am more convinced about damdred but we need to deal with marv sooner rather than later.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 21:58 GMT
#2479
On September 21 2015 06:58 ritoky wrote:
jat have your reads changed at all? i am assuming not really since literally only confirmed townies and you have posted.

Nope. Your read on damdred has reinforced my scumread on him. That's basically it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 22:01 GMT
#2482
On September 21 2015 07:00 Damdred wrote:
You both are dumb and bad.

^
You are supposed to call me mafia instead bro.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 22:28 GMT
#2494
On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.

Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum.

If you are town you are being wrong, bad and useless right now.

1) I can guarantee you that depending on the amount of alive mafia 2-3 reads of yours are wrong. So you are actively being shit.
2) Without any reasoning you aren't convincing anyone anyways.

On September 21 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote:
like seriously, how am i supposed to read any1 but jat town out of you lot recently?

none of you are dying during the night phase and out of the 6 of you only 2 posted over the course of 24 hours. 1 of which is geript who said literal nothing with his posts. like some of you have to be town who are just fucking off. you're supposed to be vets, you're supposed to be respected players, you're supposed to be good. well fucking step it up if you're town.

This is only really true for geript since he was evidently around and chose to do nothing. Maybe also Cephiro to an extent. Damdred, Palmar and marv had excuses for the weekend.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 22:30 GMT
#2495
On September 21 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote:
2) Your an idiot ritoky because you are lynching someone with what amounts to a green check at this point. When you just got done getting lynched in another game with a green check on you.

I just proved why this "check" is completely meaningless.

If scott is mafia it's not a real check.
If scott is town mafia is not afraid of a tracker so there has to be a GF who will always be the one carrying out the NK.

The check is useless.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 22:38 GMT
#2498
I have nothing to add before the other "unconfirmeds" are doing anything. It's still between marv and damdred for me.
Even though geript is really starting to earn dem scumpoints recently.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 20 2015 22:53 GMT
#2500
On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.

Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum.


i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me.

so who's mafia? onegu?

Yah probably Onegu was.

Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason.

Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team.

If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 05:56 GMT
#2503
On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.

Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum.


i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me.

so who's mafia? onegu?

Yah probably Onegu was.

Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason.

Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team.

If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded.

I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.

The best you can is not very good then because if it isn't you then you are literally townreading all the remaining mafia. Time to rethink.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 08:29 GMT
#2504
So what we should be doing is this I guess:

##Vote: marvellosity

If he is shitting townie rainbows when he returns we can switch to damdred but it doesn't feel like voting that guy right now really achieves anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 09:35 GMT
#2506
Awesome timing.

You are confirmed mafia. Koshi said you are scum and he would vote you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 09:38 GMT
#2508
You don't say.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 09:48 GMT
#2511
On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.

scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).

Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.

If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.

I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.

ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.

This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".

Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this.
The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia.

You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 09:50 GMT
#2512
On September 21 2015 18:45 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm not gonna argue about the damdred thing unless people get actually close to lynching him.

It's a super daunting task to read marv and jat's filter. Like there's probably no people (well holyflare is up there) whose filter I despise reading more than those two.

Then I'll advise you to start with marv. It is shorter and more likely mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 09:53 GMT
#2515
On September 21 2015 18:51 Palmar wrote:
About the geript thing and why it bothers me so much.

I like geript, and I think he's a nice, reasonable guy. In order for him to blow up on ceph like that because of real life stress, he has to be far more emotional than I think he is. Like I talk to geript on ts, play with him here and stuff, and it's just way out of his character range. Like if geript was really (and I believe he was) stressed out by his rl, the attitude I would have thought he brought to the game is more in the lieu of:

"dude.... please. Just back the fuck off. rl is shit and I don't have the willpower to argue with your shit right now so just stop it please"

Instead of the caps lock (it was caps, right?) tirade he went on.

Maybe I just don't know geript. But it seemed excessive.

Also, this:

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.

Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum.


i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me.

so who's mafia? onegu?

Yah probably Onegu was.

Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason.

Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team.

If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded.

I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.


Is kinda not true, but it's also not a thing that makes him mafia to think. I'm mostly pointing out that he's being extremely useless if he's town. Not that it makes him 100% mafia.

u srs?

You would not expect geript to blow up? He has done it countless times.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 09:53 GMT
#2516
On September 21 2015 18:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.

scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).

Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.

If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.

I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.

ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.

This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".

Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this.
The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia.

You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all.

Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right?

I want to lynch between marv and damdred. I think I made that very clear.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 09:56 GMT
#2520
On September 21 2015 18:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 18:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 18:52 Palmar wrote:
On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.

scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).

Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.

If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.

I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.

ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.

This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".

Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this.
The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia.

You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all.

Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right?

I want to lynch between marv and damdred. I think I made that very clear.

pick one.

I don't need to pick one before they do stuff. My thoughts are all in the thread for you to read.

The way to go is push marv today until he either proves his innocence or dies. If the former happens lynch damdred.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 11:50 GMT
#2521
Marv might be slow today but considering the fact that only a few pages have been written since he was gone I would have expected him to post something by now. Or even comment on me and palmar voting him.

This is the lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 12:02 GMT
#2523
On September 21 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
if marv is mafia his #1 scumplay is to just shut up and not post.

Can't tell if joking or not.

Yes, if he sees no possibility of avoiding the lynch I can see him just shutting up.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 21 2015 12:05 GMT
#2525
On September 21 2015 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 21:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
if marv is mafia his #1 scumplay is to just shut up and not post.

Can't tell if joking or not.

Yes, if he sees no possibility of avoiding the lynch I can see him just shutting up.

Silly. Of course i can avoid the lynch. i've not started reading yet. i'm not sure you quite grasp my mental state right this moment :p

I'm not sure either.
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