like there's literally a chance that everyone except me and ritoky can be mafia, and I hate not having anyone 100% going to flip town.

I think Damdred is town
jat _should_ be town based on activity/willingness to try, but he has a bunch of warning flags.

ceph I have no idea. I'm almost entirely sheeping my day 1 read of his reaction to koshi, and just as much I am sheeping my day 1 read on geript where he called me mafia for made up reasons.

Like I'm definitely not sure, but no, i'm not going to lynch damdred today, I'm not even going to bother re-evaluating him because he's the closest thing to a townread I have on you guys.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:10 GMT

#3072

On September 26 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:

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"At best misguided"? Explain.

I just did in the post you quoted.

At best we can assume cephiro simply hasn't read anything from today/last night and is just aware that I wasn't around at that specific part of the game.

at worst he's making up reasons to antagonize me.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:13 GMT

#3075

On September 26 2015 05:11 justanothertownie wrote:

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I don't see the damdred townread at all.
I thought cephiros big post earlier seemes pretty damn towny. You disagree?

Haven't read it yet

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:15 GMT

#3077

I just came back and saw you being scummy so it's your fault.

I'll read it now

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:22 GMT

#3080

I was actually under the impression that ritoky was going to lynch geript. Maybe he isn't.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:30 GMT

#3084

there's points in ceph's case (it's really, really hard to read, something about his writing style is really confusing).

I think the best point I like is damdred flipping his read on ceph based on the same reason but still, no idea if it makes him mafia.

This is my main problem. If damdred is mafia based on the reasons Cephiro listed, then I'm awful at this game. I don't think I'm awful at this game, so I don't think Damdred is mafia.

One of the main points in the case is that damdred gave wile a townread on day 1 for that post. The problem with me scumreading him for that is that I agreed with the point and townread damdred for making it.

Another point in the case is damdred's actions today, which I have explained here:

On September 26 2015 02:01 Palmar wrote:

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I am just going to assume this smiley means "tell me more about why it isn't scummy Palmar". I'm mostly assuming that because it's a pretty clever reason.

If damdred is mafia I expect one of two things to be his play here.

1) Take the "easy" lynch and run with it. Just vote geript, rehash some reasons given by others and watch him die.

2) Really push against the lynch and call people bad/stupid for maximum cred.

But instead what he's doing is

3) sort of defend him and give reasons, while also resigning to the fact that he might just get lynched anyway.

I'm not saying it's impossible he's mafia because of this, it's just that he has chosen a very specific and strange path to behave about it if he is.

Notice how I interpreted exactly the actions you're calling him mafia for as town actions.

Like it's generally a terrible idea to lynch people who I kinda maybe think are town.

I'm not ready to go against every feeling/read I've made this game based on you thinking he's mafia. I think it's far more likely geript is.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:30 GMT

#3085

On September 26 2015 05:24 justanothertownie wrote:

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Good. I am not lynching anyone but geript/damdred anyways.

But which one?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:31 GMT

#3086

Like I know your vote is on geript, but you seem quite willing to go after damdred.

And yes, that ceph post sounds sorta townie.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:33 GMT

#3087

If I'm having a bad game, fine. I was wrong on wile and if I'm right on geript I was also wrong on jat on day 1.

But I was right on a bunch of people (rayn, moosy, marv-ish (took me a while), koshi, ritoky. Hell I was even right on warwaffle despite his shitty start).

Like I think it's a terrible idea for myself to assume I'm terrible. If I'm being terrible I'm counting on the other 4 townies to overrule me and figure it out.

I think geript is the last mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:37 GMT

#3089

On September 26 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:

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Yes. Gut says damdred head say geript basically. Damdred doesn't seem interested in lynching mafia today. Geript on the other hand shouldn't be town for what he did this game. And there is the strong desire to get rid of him because I have 0 motivation to put up with his shit in case we miss.

We basically KNOW damdred is sort of fine with lynching geript. I'm also 100% certain scumdred is smart enough to know that if he does what he is doing (explain his reads but admit he's going to be overruled) can be perceived as scummy. Which is also why I don't think scumdred does that.

Like I agree with the bolded, I just don't think it makes him mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 20:52 GMT

#3091

I see no reason why I should disregard everything I think and believe you instead ceph.

screw this, i'm going to take a walk. I'll be back before the deadline.

if I can I'll glance at damdred's filter while doing it.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 21:19 GMT

#3098

I don't care if you're confident or not cephiro. If you think I care about that you don't know me.

I don't want to go into lylo with a pre-determined lynch. If I'm right and damdred flips town, I have to lynch geript in lylo because he is, probably, mafia.

I want to win this game, which is precisely why I'm not going to sheep you.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 21:19 GMT

#3099

yes geript is just gone.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 21:21 GMT

#3101

I did skim like the first 2 pages of damdred's filter.

Again, he does not come across as the shitty weak mafia he sometimes is.

Like I might be blowing this up to make my point, but I think geript has to be mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 21:23 GMT

#3103

Your case is correct as far as I could see. It's just that it doesn't make him mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 21:25 GMT

#3107

Hell part of me wishes you guys would just lynch damdred because it's a win/win for me. Either I'm right, or I win the game.

Like it's not common that I'm literally the only person who has a townread on someone. Well I guess geript does too, but he's mafia so.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 21:26 GMT

#3110

geript isn't here to argue against his lynch because he know he can't.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

September 25 2015 21:27 GMT

#3112

like I'm being facetious but still.

I really can't deal with this game for another 72 hours, especially if geript will be alive because I am going to lynch him if he is. There is no way this game ends without me having lynched geript.

It's strictly the correct play to kill him for the reasons I gave earlier.