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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2015 15:30 GMT
#2910
although it'd be amazing if jat was scum for that perfect 3/3 voting record on the first 3 days for me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2015 21:26 GMT
#2924
These days feel so long.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2015 21:26 GMT
#2925
I agree with ritoky btw, I townread me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2015 21:28 GMT
#2928
On September 25 2015 06:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2015 06:26 Palmar wrote:
I agree with ritoky btw, I townread me.

How confident are you in this read?

not particularly, I'm shifty.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2015 21:32 GMT
#2932
Here's a good reason for lynching geript.

My initial reaction this game was that cephiro is town.
My initial reaction this game was that geript was scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 24 2015 22:24 GMT
#2945
On September 25 2015 07:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2015 07:02 ritoky wrote:
idk that's just kinda bleh. last minute palm -> jat; instantly marv -> moosy. can be read as marv floating then ensuring teammate doesn't die. but if jat is mafia there with 3 mins left and risk of shennanie, i have to believe he is more self-preservationist...which makes it end up being a wash and kinda useless like i said.

anyone else got any opinions on those votes or is it useless? damdred?

[image loading]

You can ignore the self preservationist approach since I simply wasn't around. You could make the argument that I would probably have checked my phone once in a while as mafia but I also wasn't aware the deadline was :30 instead of :00.

marv also forgot the deadline on day 1.

jat/marv dreamteam confirmed.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 14:31 GMT
#2966
Some of the stuff geript said could be from mad town, but his rage is also super misplaced.

If he thinks jat is mafia, why is he then mad at jat? jat is only doing what he has to win if he's mafia. So the outburst and his scumread on jat doesn't really fit each other. He should be mad at me for being naive enough to mislynch him over scumjat.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 16:41 GMT
#2984
I don't know if ceph's last post makes him mafia and I kinda don't want to bother trying to figure it out. There'll be enough time to reconsider if I'm wrong, but ideally geript just flips mafia and I never have to think about it again.

I honestly can't muster the energy to consider alternative scenarios unless I absolutely have to.

I am very much okay with sheeping my own day 1 reads.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 16:42 GMT
#2985
On September 26 2015 01:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar are you around?

barely
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 16:49 GMT
#2991
Explain to me why geript said way back on day 1 that I was being serious and called me mafia for it when it was not true.
Explain why geript blew up on cephiro (remember, not that much before that I had given him a "maybe not mafia" read mostly because he was being nice).
Explain why geript is mad at jat for being wrong and bad when he also thinks jat is mafia in which case jat is being GOOD and not bad.
Explain why geript claimed on.... day 3? that he was doing everything he could with his little time, when in reality he spent the previous 2 days talking about dicks.

I'll listen damdred, but I'm not going to change my mind on a tonal "he sounds like town" thing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 16:52 GMT
#2994
On September 26 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
I was about to ask you who you would lynch if geript was off the table. What do you think about damdreds defense of geript? Is he just wrong? He seems pretty convinced.

He could be wrong, and he could be right.

I am in no way certain geript is scum, it's just by far the most likely.

I don't think it's scummy from damdred at all.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 17:01 GMT
#2998
On September 26 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 01:52 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
I was about to ask you who you would lynch if geript was off the table. What do you think about damdreds defense of geript? Is he just wrong? He seems pretty convinced.

He could be wrong, and he could be right.

I am in no way certain geript is scum, it's just by far the most likely.

I don't think it's scummy from damdred at all.

:/

I am just going to assume this smiley means "tell me more about why it isn't scummy Palmar". I'm mostly assuming that because it's a pretty clever reason.

If damdred is mafia I expect one of two things to be his play here.

1) Take the "easy" lynch and run with it. Just vote geript, rehash some reasons given by others and watch him die.

2) Really push against the lynch and call people bad/stupid for maximum cred.

But instead what he's doing is

3) sort of defend him and give reasons, while also resigning to the fact that he might just get lynched anyway.

I'm not saying it's impossible he's mafia because of this, it's just that he has chosen a very specific and strange path to behave about it if he is.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 17:04 GMT
#3001
On September 26 2015 01:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote:
Explain to me why geript said way back on day 1 that I was being serious and called me mafia for it when it was not true.
Explain why geript blew up on cephiro (remember, not that much before that I had given him a "maybe not mafia" read mostly because he was being nice).
Explain why geript is mad at jat for being wrong and bad when he also thinks jat is mafia in which case jat is being GOOD and not bad.
Explain why geript claimed on.... day 3? that he was doing everything he could with his little time, when in reality he spent the previous 2 days talking about dicks.

I'll listen damdred, but I'm not going to change my mind on a tonal "he sounds like town" thing.


Firstly this isn't a tonal thing this is just an overarching game play thing with a mixture of meta thrown in.

1) Mistakes happen, I can't really explain it tbh geript has to answer this himself and I can't speak to how people feel about another.
2) Geeipt blows up as either alignment kinda a nai type thing and he blows up on whoever is in his path
3) idk just seems nai I understand not wanting to lose to it though. I just don't think it makes him scum. (this one about dicks)
4) This is worrying but it comes from town geript more than scum geeipt. Last newb game we played he did the same thing to Yamato and kels over misunderstanding and bad tunnels.


It wasn't a mistake, he tried to clarify it and just changed the narrative to something about me trolling when I pointed it out to him.

yes, but still... meh. I read that post on waht.... n1? and it's bothered me since I saw it. geript did blow up on me once as mafia (survivor series?) for very little reason. Sure he might do it as town, but it was just so unreasonable.

the attack jat for both being mafia and bad thing might make sense if he's just mad.

Idk, I still think the right play is to kill him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 17:06 GMT
#3003
On September 26 2015 02:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 02:01 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 01:52 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
I was about to ask you who you would lynch if geript was off the table. What do you think about damdreds defense of geript? Is he just wrong? He seems pretty convinced.

He could be wrong, and he could be right.

I am in no way certain geript is scum, it's just by far the most likely.

I don't think it's scummy from damdred at all.

:/

I am just going to assume this smiley means "tell me more about why it isn't scummy Palmar". I'm mostly assuming that because it's a pretty clever reason.

If damdred is mafia I expect one of two things to be his play here.

1) Take the "easy" lynch and run with it. Just vote geript, rehash some reasons given by others and watch him die.

2) Really push against the lynch and call people bad/stupid for maximum cred.

But instead what he's doing is

3) sort of defend him and give reasons, while also resigning to the fact that he might just get lynched anyway.

I'm not saying it's impossible he's mafia because of this, it's just that he has chosen a very specific and strange path to behave about it if he is.

Ok, but what if he goes 2)? He might succeed and we are lynching cephiro instead. Now he is backed in a corner because he can never lynch geript. That's not very clever. Better to disagree with the lynch while still letting it happen.

well in that case his target would have to be you (which sorta might fit). If geript survives in that would even mean damdred has at least one very likely "ally".

Hell, if damdred is mafia, his optimal play (if possible) is to defend geript and lynch ceph, shoot me, then let ritoky and geript tinfoil lynch you.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 17:07 GMT
#3004
On September 26 2015 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, mafia damdred is in the ideal position if we mislynch geript today. He can just say "told ya" and keep pushing cephiro for the win later.

yeah.

But in that case I'm forced to read his filter, which, if he's mafia, might be really bad for him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 17:11 GMT
#3006
On September 26 2015 02:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 02:06 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 02:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 02:01 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 01:52 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
I was about to ask you who you would lynch if geript was off the table. What do you think about damdreds defense of geript? Is he just wrong? He seems pretty convinced.

He could be wrong, and he could be right.

I am in no way certain geript is scum, it's just by far the most likely.

I don't think it's scummy from damdred at all.

:/

I am just going to assume this smiley means "tell me more about why it isn't scummy Palmar". I'm mostly assuming that because it's a pretty clever reason.

If damdred is mafia I expect one of two things to be his play here.

1) Take the "easy" lynch and run with it. Just vote geript, rehash some reasons given by others and watch him die.

2) Really push against the lynch and call people bad/stupid for maximum cred.

But instead what he's doing is

3) sort of defend him and give reasons, while also resigning to the fact that he might just get lynched anyway.

I'm not saying it's impossible he's mafia because of this, it's just that he has chosen a very specific and strange path to behave about it if he is.

Ok, but what if he goes 2)? He might succeed and we are lynching cephiro instead. Now he is backed in a corner because he can never lynch geript. That's not very clever. Better to disagree with the lynch while still letting it happen.

well in that case his target would have to be you (which sorta might fit). If geript survives in that would even mean damdred has at least one very likely "ally".

Hell, if damdred is mafia, his optimal play (if possible) is to defend geript and lynch ceph, shoot me, then let ritoky and geript tinfoil lynch you.

That's actually a great point. But I really don't see the shot on you. And I also don't see ritoky mislynching me ever.

well ritoky does tinfoil think you're scum.

Also, it's sort of wishful thinking. There's nothing I'd appreciate more than being shot if this game continues after tonight. I really, really cba reading huge filters but I'll have to.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 19:46 GMT
#3056
On September 26 2015 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.

Why do you think this is a fair point?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 19:55 GMT
#3058
On September 26 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:46 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.

Why do you think this is a fair point?

Because it is true?!

Which part, specifically is true?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 20:05 GMT
#3066
On September 26 2015 04:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:55 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:46 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.

Why do you think this is a fair point?

Because it is true?!

Which part, specifically is true?

That you seem content with just chilling and letting things happen today. You made it clear you want geript lynched and didn't do much/talk about much besides that.


geript is leading the vote, so yes I'm okay with letting things happen.
I talked about damdred and gave a very clever insightful reason about his defense of geript.
I talked about you and sort of decided to not call you mafia.

The last part I'm feeling less sure on because you copied a post from cephiro that is at best misguided and just randomly agreed with it but idk if it means anything.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 20:06 GMT
#3067
this game is too hard because people insist on making it hard.
Computer says mafia
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