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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2015 14:54 GMT
#2287
On September 18 2015 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 23:51 Palmar wrote:
On September 18 2015 23:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 18 2015 23:49 Palmar wrote:
like you can call me wrong all you want, but I tunneled you for half a day and you're butthurt about it. Then when I gave the detailed mafia team at the opening of day 3, you nagged me to explain it instead of just bowing down for your lord and savior.

I said it was the mafia team on the exact same day.

yes you parroted me, good job.

Yeah, I parroted you so much that I needed to convince you that vivax was confirmed mafia. Get out.

No, you pointed out to me that he was mechanically confirmed.

I already knew he was mafia and was hard pushing him. My reads are so good I don't have to worry about mechanics.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2015 14:55 GMT
#2290
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2015 15:07 GMT
#2298
rayn wrote poems in xxx and he was mafia.

marv is mafia

#meta
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2015 15:24 GMT
#2305
don't pat yourself too much on the back, you called me mafia for most of day 1.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2015 15:29 GMT
#2310
On September 19 2015 00:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 00:26 Koshi wrote:
btw did we already discuss how I tricked mafia into thinking I was an important blue? I mean... Obv Koshi gets the RB. That sexy bastard.

The respect is real.

Or maybe mafia just aren't idiots and since you are basically an innocent child but not nk worthy you are the obvious rb target.

jat defends his decision
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2015 15:34 GMT
#2316
On September 19 2015 00:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 00:31 Koshi wrote:
On September 19 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
On September 19 2015 00:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2015 00:26 Koshi wrote:
btw did we already discuss how I tricked mafia into thinking I was an important blue? I mean... Obv Koshi gets the RB. That sexy bastard.

The respect is real.

Or maybe mafia just aren't idiots and since you are basically an innocent child but not nk worthy you are the obvious rb target.

jat defends his decision

"But I wouldn't do that as mafia" line inc.

Nah, let's be honest I absolutely would.

Level 3 scum
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2015 22:11 GMT
#2349
I genuinely thought the deadline was tonight.

I guess it's another 24 hours of calling everyone bad boys!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2015 15:46 GMT
#2368
This is hilarious and possibly intentional.

Step 1: Jat and geript read OP

On September 18 2015 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
Am I the only person that caught that Rayn wasn't confirmed to his partner and vice versa?

No, reading the OP isn't that hard.


Step 2: Jat and geript don't read the OP

On September 19 2015 11:53 geript wrote:
Shooting Rayn is kinda an interesting choice. They're choosing not to medic dodge as I think he's a bit more likely (considering most people's reads) than Marv or Palmar.

The funny thing is that it feels like more of a Palmar kill than a Marv kill, but IDK if either of them would actually make that kill. So I can still live in a world where both Palmar and Marv are town.


On September 19 2015 21:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Medic dodging is also not as good in a 13 player mini with 1 KP. If a shot gets blocked town does not gain a mislynch and mafia did not know there was a vigi in this game.
And now that I think about it - even if they suspected it the shot is good since if rayn gets saved the vigi is not confirmed regardless of who he shoots due to the janitor.


There is literally no medic/jailkeeper in the game.

Don't know what to do with this.

The reason is, two people made the same mistake. I (mis?)remembered it being JAT who had pointed the thing about the masons, then I saw him talk about medic dodging, so I charged right to my computer in order to post why JAT is 100% mafia for this.

The problem is, when I started looking into JAT's filter to see where he had said it I found it it was geript who had said the thing about the masons and JAT simply agreed with him. This means that unless those two are exactly the remaining mafia team (this is actually very possible, it just means Onegu is town), then at least one townie made the mistake.

It's a great wifom bomb to throw if you're scum. "Look, I wasn't aware of mechanics that affect night kills so I can't be mafia!!!", although it also requires one, or both of them to have forgotten about having already bragged about reading the OP. Or alternatively (and much more unlikely) knowing about it and simply gambling no one would notice.

So idk...

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2015 16:04 GMT
#2370
On a scale of 1 to LS after believing a joke, how much town am I for actually recalling that detail?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2015 16:13 GMT
#2371
Anyway, it's weekend, I'm not going to be much around.

Damdred has been dropping off it feels like but still.

Ceph said something about wanting to be suspicious which doesn't sound suspicious at all. I also think JAT called him out on it which is mehh~~~~
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2015 16:14 GMT
#2372
that "but still" means that I don't know if it means anything.

There's too many people who need to do more, the game feels sort of undecided now.

We kinda have to lynch correctly tomorrow.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 09:44 GMT
#2509
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.

scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).

Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.

If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.

I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.

ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.

This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 09:45 GMT
#2510
Like I'm not gonna argue about the damdred thing unless people get actually close to lynching him.

It's a super daunting task to read marv and jat's filter. Like there's probably no people (well holyflare is up there) whose filter I despise reading more than those two.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 09:51 GMT
#2513
About the geript thing and why it bothers me so much.

I like geript, and I think he's a nice, reasonable guy. In order for him to blow up on ceph like that because of real life stress, he has to be far more emotional than I think he is. Like I talk to geript on ts, play with him here and stuff, and it's just way out of his character range. Like if geript was really (and I believe he was) stressed out by his rl, the attitude I would have thought he brought to the game is more in the lieu of:

"dude.... please. Just back the fuck off. rl is shit and I don't have the willpower to argue with your shit right now so just stop it please"

Instead of the caps lock (it was caps, right?) tirade he went on.

Maybe I just don't know geript. But it seemed excessive.

Also, this:

On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.

Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum.


i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me.

so who's mafia? onegu?

Yah probably Onegu was.

Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason.

Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team.

If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded.

I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.


Is kinda not true, but it's also not a thing that makes him mafia to think. I'm mostly pointing out that he's being extremely useless if he's town. Not that it makes him 100% mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 09:52 GMT
#2514
On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.

scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).

Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.

If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.

I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.

ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.

This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".

Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this.
The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia.

You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all.

Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 09:54 GMT
#2517
On September 21 2015 18:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 18:51 Palmar wrote:
About the geript thing and why it bothers me so much.

I like geript, and I think he's a nice, reasonable guy. In order for him to blow up on ceph like that because of real life stress, he has to be far more emotional than I think he is. Like I talk to geript on ts, play with him here and stuff, and it's just way out of his character range. Like if geript was really (and I believe he was) stressed out by his rl, the attitude I would have thought he brought to the game is more in the lieu of:

"dude.... please. Just back the fuck off. rl is shit and I don't have the willpower to argue with your shit right now so just stop it please"

Instead of the caps lock (it was caps, right?) tirade he went on.

Maybe I just don't know geript. But it seemed excessive.

Also, this:

On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.

Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum.


i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me.

so who's mafia? onegu?

Yah probably Onegu was.

Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason.

Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team.

If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded.

I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.


Is kinda not true, but it's also not a thing that makes him mafia to think. I'm mostly pointing out that he's being extremely useless if he's town. Not that it makes him 100% mafia.

u srs?

You would not expect geript to blow up? He has done it countless times.

Yeah, but not over real life stuff. He gets mad all the time, but it's the palmar kind of mad. This was another level of mad.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 09:54 GMT
#2518
On September 21 2015 18:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 18:52 Palmar wrote:
On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.

scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).

Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.

If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.

I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.

ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.

This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".

Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this.
The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia.

You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all.

Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right?

I want to lynch between marv and damdred. I think I made that very clear.

pick one.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 09:56 GMT
#2519
On September 21 2015 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
hiyo. looong long weekend and only 2 hours sleep last night, so i'm gonna be a little slow today.

##vote marvellosity

It's your time to shine baby. I expect a solved game on my desk by 5pm
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 12:01 GMT
#2522
if marv is mafia his #1 scumplay is to just shut up and not post.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 21 2015 13:16 GMT
#2529
I take it your weekend was good then marv?
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