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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 05 2015 22:10 GMT
#768
so noobking care to explain the thing you were doing early game to get reads? Because I don't really see what reads it got you at this point
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 00:45 GMT
#856
I'm just waking up.

Hi Gb
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 01:14 GMT
#858
I'm not sure. I do know probably not slam. His deciding to back of feels kinda townie and I also realise that my scum read went from sheeting rayn then to something that didn't make sense.

I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything

I kinda wanna lynch moosey for his defence of noobking but it's ver reminiscent of the last game I played with him like the general behaviour so it then makes me think he is town. There was also some post that I don't remember that I really liked

I could also lynch boxer cos why not.

So answer to your question is noobking/boxer

I obviously need to do more work though but have family stuff soon so can't commit to rereading stuff just yet.

Who are you lynching today GB?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 01:36 GMT
#862
Ehh I think I disagree on Fidel. He didn't post that much but i don't think what he was posting was really fluff other than complaining about the length of the game. The thing that I disliked the most is that he said he was gonna read you and moosey, he apparently read moosey asked some inquisitive questions and then never got to you.

This isn't really a reason to scum read him but yeah. He did promise activity later though I think so will probably see then.

I need to re look at Scott he was doing that thing where he posts his notes I think which is okay but I would like to see more polished kinda posts from him. I don't think I'd want to lynch him today though the stream of thought was good from what I remember and he is scared because "I'm putting in more effort than usual" and that's funny

Why is boxer a less desirable lynch than the others for you? Is there something you like or is there just nothing you dislike?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 02:02 GMT
#869
On September 06 2015 11:00 CopCake wrote:
when is end of the phase?


48 hours after it started so in like 20 and a half hours or so?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 02:03 GMT
#870
Noob do you wanna run me through all the people you are considering for lynching at the moment?

If you feel you have done it enough in your filter that's fair I just don't have access to filters at the moment but I'll look later.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 04:17 GMT
#875
On September 06 2015 11:41 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 06 2015 11:01 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here?

I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives.

I have only voted against CopCake, you know.

You've bolded a vote on rayn in this topic.

And this topic is not where we vote. In this topic, I could act like I'm voting against rayn, or against myself, or against Santa Claus, and none of it will move the vote count. I have only voted against CopCake.
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On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
If you didn't think rayn was mafia at that time, why did you do that?

I feel like this question might be better to answer at the end of Night 1, than during Day 1. But I will think about it.


I need to check something when I can but thanks for replying to my post Noobking

Also about this post I don't really see what you could possibly have to say about rayn that you wouldn't say now but would at the end of night 1

Like thinking any read you have on rayn is going to affect mafias NKs is fairly arrogant at this point.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 05:04 GMT
#877
On September 06 2015 13:55 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 13:17 Breshke wrote:
On September 06 2015 11:41 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 06 2015 11:01 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here?

I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives.

I have only voted against CopCake, you know.

You've bolded a vote on rayn in this topic.

And this topic is not where we vote. In this topic, I could act like I'm voting against rayn, or against myself, or against Santa Claus, and none of it will move the vote count. I have only voted against CopCake.
On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
If you didn't think rayn was mafia at that time, why did you do that?

I feel like this question might be better to answer at the end of Night 1, than during Day 1. But I will think about it.


I need to check something when I can but thanks for replying to my post Noobking

Also about this post I don't really see what you could possibly have to say about rayn that you wouldn't say now but would at the end of night 1

Like thinking any read you have on rayn is going to affect mafias NKs is fairly arrogant at this point.

*sigh* Did you forget about this exchange already? [underlining added for emphasis]
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On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work.

There is more to it than just a read on rayn. And the Mafia have other actions that I can affect besides just their NK target.


I remember it but it dumb
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 05:18 GMT
#880
Hydra said it was there first game. They also signed up as a newbie and fairly sure that is like heavily frowned upon if not not allowed.

Also it's dumb because you are apparently being purposely confusing because you think you can direct mafia night actions when you should just try lynch mafia.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 06:14 GMT
#883
On September 06 2015 14:37 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 14:18 Breshke wrote:
Hydra said it was there first game.

Firstly...WHERE?

Secondly, that would mean nothing, even if it actually happened. Have you heard of lying?
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 14:18 Breshke wrote:
Also it's dumb because you are apparently being purposely confusing because you think you can direct mafia night actions when you should just try lynch mafia.

1) I am not being purposely confusing at all.
2) I don't merely "think" I can influence Mafia Night Actions. I've done it more times than I could count.
3) You are not really going to sit there and tell me that your poor wittle brain cannot figure out the concept of Town players withholding information. Do only Mafia players refuse to share their thoughts with the rest of the players, Breshke?


On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.

First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv).


Bolded infers hydra had no previous games to base conclusions off of therefore first game. You akso ignoired the thing i said about them signing up as a newbie but w/e doesn't matter

So GB asked you to clarify something so he was obviously confused. You arn't just withholding information though, you did something that doesn't add up you "fake" voted rayn and GB asked you to explain and you just cop out by saying "oh i cant explain right now im tricking mafia sa hard h3h3."

Also you can call me stupid all you want I know im bad at this so you telling me im bad isn't going to make me tilt. However right now if i look at this from your point of view you are arguing with me (who you don't want to lynch today) about something from your point of view is totally stupid because "you know what you are doing you have done it heaps of times". and you havn't even tried tot alk to me about copcake or scott who are two of your lynch candidates that I don't want to lynch today.

I don't see any townie mindset there.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 06:15 GMT
#884
ignore the last bit you posted as i posted
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 13:16 GMT
#897
fideil what do you mean by playing "guardedly"?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 13:50 GMT
#898
Ill be back an hour before lynch cya's then
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 06 2015 23:01 GMT
#1320
Um I overslept catching up now give me a bit
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 00:27 GMT
#1335
On September 07 2015 08:26 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm thinking one possible focus are the more or less under the radar players. n00b said something along the lines of rayn "doing all the work for them" not saying the entire team is inactive but they can afford to lay back if town are stumbling about in the wrong direction.

Alakaslam. Breshke, boxerfred, MD to a lesser extent.

I had a null on yamato until his eod activity, and thinking he's probable town.

Went through Breshke filter just now. The post 858 he has says something about slam being townie for backing down, and it seemed to be based on tone. Slam had attributed some tinfoil theory that made him back off Breshke, but reading Breshke's filter the manner in which he pushed slam was townie. But then the drop just seems pretty weak.

Slam could be trying to appease him, it seems from the games I've read or observed, people tend to be biased or townread them for townreading them back regardless of alignment. Doesn't vindicate slam, at least I don't think it should, but it doesn't necessarily mean Breshke is mafia from this.

The only thing that gave me pause was when he looked at other people. Also 858.

"I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything"

Pretty sure n00b was interacting/pushing rayn at least the first half of the cycle.


Ya noob was interacting/pushing rayn but he thought that dude wasn't scum and he stillw asn't doing anything else.
this is what I meant by that
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 00:32 GMT
#1336
On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT


Gb just to be clear you only claimed vigi at the start so you wouldn't be shot during the night?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 01:34 GMT
#1337
Basically GB is lying. He did not claim vigi to "not get shot".

On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play.
fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else.
fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right.
seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it.

this guy is hilarious.


Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.


He say's rayn should understand and that I do understand why he claimed vigi.

Quick history lesson GB coached me in one of my newbie games and im fairly sure it was there that he told me how he normally opens up the day by saying stuff that will start up some conversation. For example he will say something like "I am town" and colour the word town red.

So when GB says I know why he claimed vigi it is because he was doing what i explained above. It doesn't make him town because GB does that first post play as both alignments.

What does make him mafia is him claiming that he claimed vigi so he wouldn't get shot by mafia which is basically confirmed bullshit given the post I quoted. Like counterclaim or not I really doubt GB is the doctor considering he is trying to justify his claim with bullshit.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 02:22 GMT
#1339
On September 07 2015 11:10 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 10:34 Breshke wrote:
Basically GB is lying. He did not claim vigi to "not get shot".

On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play.
fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else.
fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right.
seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it.

this guy is hilarious.


Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.


He say's rayn should understand and that I do understand why he claimed vigi.

Quick history lesson GB coached me in one of my newbie games and im fairly sure it was there that he told me how he normally opens up the day by saying stuff that will start up some conversation. For example he will say something like "I am town" and colour the word town red.

So when GB says I know why he claimed vigi it is because he was doing what i explained above. It doesn't make him town because GB does that first post play as both alignments.

What does make him mafia is him claiming that he claimed vigi so he wouldn't get shot by mafia which is basically confirmed bullshit given the post I quoted. Like counterclaim or not I really doubt GB is the doctor considering he is trying to justify his claim with bullshit.


So In theory GB's claim will solve itself tomorrow and it's why I personally did not want to drain on it, but makes me curious why want you want to tonight - time zones?

Do you think the claim is bullshit?

Who else do you think are mafia?


Because saying it will solve itself tonight is fairly meh tbh. If GB is actualy the doctor then mafia have a RB and what stops them from just RBing him to infinity. So no I think people need to make a judgement because what if GB doesn't die are you going to be like "yeah he is confirmed mafia".

Yeah I do. What do you think about why I pointed out?

I have no answer right now I want to read EoD again but I have a test tomorrow and am doing some study atm.


Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 02:48 GMT
#1341
RB's aren't notified though so how do you tell the difference between if he was actually roleblocked as town doctor or if he pretend to be role blocked as mafia?

I also don't really understand why you want to rely on having one of our blue roles claim when I have shown that GB lied and for now reason other than to justify his claim.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
September 07 2015 02:49 GMT
#1343
Do you disagree that GB lied there? If you can explain it from a town perspective im willing to listen. I'm not 100 percent GB is mafia but i feel it is very likely and i feel like we don't need a blue role to claim.
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