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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 11:47 GMT
#3055
ugh, idk what to make of this. On one hand, I do think that Superbia should give us game. On the other, scott made that weird post.

Fidei, are you around?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 14:01 GMT
#3058
So I had this moment of clarity in my Russian Fiction class while discussing Crime & Punishment which I find slightly ironic. But I find that there are three worlds here.

One is that Superbia is scum and Slam is misguided town making the mistake of pushing on scott and giving Superbia the slip he needs.

The second is that Superbia is town, and this is Slam's last gamble as Mafia to push a lynch through. However, I find this unlikely because we still have lylo and I REALLY doubt that Slam as a veteran would commit the oversight of realizing he needs to get two mislynches for game.

The third is that both Superbia and Slam are town, and someone in scott/Fidei is scum. Fidei's response to my question about his assumption on us going to lylo was actually good for reasons I'll explain if you guys want me to, so I think he's town. That leaves scott as Mafia.

I think the 2nd world is unlikely and the third also relatively unlikely. This leaves us the first world and I truly think Superbia is trying to slide by right now.

There's WIFOM that Slam expected me to think the 2nd argument from his push and that he is actually the Mafia but I REALLY doubt it.

tl;dr I lynch Superbia this day. I'm pretty sure that will be game, but if it isn't, the other 2 worlds should give us game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 14:03 GMT
#3059
What do others think.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 14:04 GMT
#3060
I'm also relatively certain I'll die next night as I'm pretty much the next confirmed town after NocturneMage, so this is more of a road map for you after I die, Fidei. Just make sure you carefully evaluate both worlds.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 14:11 GMT
#3061
scott, it kind of bothers me that you voted in the voting thread, but aren't discussing anything here.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 14:24 GMT
#3062
Sorry for spamming the thread, but what I'm basically saying is that there is no way we are letting Superbia go to lylo.

Very basic summary:
- Superbia dies -> Game finishes
- Superbia dies -> lylo -> Slam looks better, scott looks worse
Either way, Fidei is town.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 23:17 GMT
#3073
hm...ok scott. Slam, if you're around, I'd like your thoughts on what scott just said.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:11 GMT
#3084
Thoughts on scott Superbia.

Why still Slam too.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:14 GMT
#3086
On September 18 2015 00:27 Fidei86 wrote:
@MD for my ego I'd like to hear why you got townie vibes from my posts about lylo

I was expecting you to explain why you assumed we were going to lylo, but instead you talked about how little Mafia were to gain by saying something like that.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:14 GMT
#3088
On September 18 2015 22:13 Superbia wrote:
I'm evaluating sson. Copcake very spastic reads EoD3 (? end of her filter). Calls scott mafia for small thing but pretty much forgets it and goes on fidei/moosy.

Pretty sure Fidei is town tho.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:17 GMT
#3089
On September 18 2015 22:14 Superbia wrote:
Moosy you're going to tell me in short sentences why you think I'm mafia. Like exactly what lines of play/interactions. I will break it apart. I think you're town btw.

ok one moment.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:32 GMT
#3093
1. No interest in sharing reads early on in the game. When you do, you just ask more questions. Questions are easy way to feign Mafia.
2. EoD actions with boxerfred. If you really cared about him being cop, you would have said so earlier, ESPECIALLY if he was afk. I disliked how you pushed yourself being automatically town at that point as well.
3. CopCake townreads you. This makes sense since Roleblocker/Godfather are important roles and GB was just killed as the Goon.
4. Your repeated waffling on CopCake then you say you hard townread her from voice Mafia. I don’t see how you can take two different Mafia variations and then try to apply reads from one to the other.
5. You said you townread CopCake all game later on when you were clearly waffling earlier on.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:34 GMT
#3094
These are just some of them. Like your read progression and your reasons for them are very strange overall. Also, NM found in your games a willingness to go all the way to the end as Mafia so I don't see it as uncommon that you're waiting for your lynch here as a chance to somehow avoid it.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:36 GMT
#3095
On September 18 2015 22:01 Superbia wrote:
I think I'm willing to lose if moosy is scum at this point. I think copcake spewed him town.

This is bad mindset man. Especially when you said you'd evaluate everyone.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:39 GMT
#3096
On September 18 2015 22:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
1. No interest in sharing reads early on in the game. When you do, you just ask more questions. Questions are easy way to feign Mafia.
2. EoD actions with boxerfred. If you really cared about him being cop, you would have said so earlier, ESPECIALLY if he was afk. I disliked how you pushed yourself being automatically town at that point as well.
3. CopCake townreads you. This makes sense since Roleblocker/Godfather are important roles and GB was just killed as the Goon.
4. Your repeated waffling on CopCake then you say you hard townread her from voice Mafia. I don’t see how you can take two different Mafia variations and then try to apply reads from one to the other.
5. You said you townread CopCake all game later on when you were clearly waffling earlier on.

Edit: 1. No interest in sharing reads early on in the game. When you do, you just ask more questions. Questions are easy way to feign interest as Mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:47 GMT
#3097
On September 18 2015 21:32 Superbia wrote:
Like explain to me how that benefits a scum from their perspective.

It doesn't benefit scum but it's a common reaction. I don't see it far from this world for you to be demotivated after scummate CopCake basically gives up and doesn't even fight off the lynch
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 14:04 GMT
#3102
1. I’m talking about in general. Your whole D1 game was questions and you didn’t give any reads. Not just the whole yamato/rayn debacle which made you waffle. Like, you cannot deny your early game was rather subpar. Sure you spurred conversation, but it’s a mystery to read you because all you did was questions.

2. But see, boxerfred would have been lynched anyway with only 3-5 minutes left to go when you outed him. Like, your out made no sense at that point in time. He would have been lynched anyway and he WAS lynched anyway. If you really cared about letting who you thought was our cop “live” then you should have outed him earlier. You cannot deny that if boxerfred was our cop he would have died anyway. You get no town cred for showing you were hunting blues and outing one super late enough that he would have died anyway.

3 is WIFOM so I agree it can only be used as confirmation. 4 is still a point. It’s no reason to hard townread someone based off of meta and in a different variant of Mafia. 5 is a point too.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 15:19 GMT
#3104
2. No it isn't hindsight. It was pretty clear both me and NocturneMage weren't going to switch. Alakaslam's switch wouldn't have mattered either way as well as boxer was going to be lynched anyway. scott wasn't around at that time. So yes, this point still stands. Superbia, go back to the voting thread and look at the counts as well as how boxerfred was in the lead. It really wouldn't have mattered even if Slam switched and you know it.

5. It's NAI at the very least. Combined with everything else, it's a scum lean like point 3.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 15:36 GMT
#3108
Hm...Fidei thoughts?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 15:38 GMT
#3109
On September 19 2015 00:29 Superbia wrote:
Moosy. Boxerfred was not in the lead so I did not want to out the cop. Do you not understand my predicament at EoD3? This is actually really fucking frustrating. You need to re-evaluate. I can not know whether you or NM would switch. Would it have mattered if I had been 10m earlier? No fucking idea. This is such an incredibly bad point dude, realize this. I can not know how you guys will react to my PR-read on boxer. I can not know that you guys will not switch on me. 3 minutes is plenty of time to switch.

5 is more townie than NAI. It clearly shows I am unclear about copcake's alignment in my opinion. But take that as you want.

No. You're not understanding this. Of course it would have been so much better for you to "out" 10 minutes earlier. Like, anyone who switches at that point doesn't have a clear mind or actually know what they're doing. Look at Alakaslam and how eager everyone was to scum read him for his EoD voting when he was literally just following your advice.

"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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