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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 02:41 GMT
#1842
Okay so here is where i am at:

CopCake, scott31337, boxerfred and Fidei and purely town from either their interactions with the thread on D2, or their stance on GlowingBear (or other way around -> scott) in this game. It should be pretty obvious.

I actually thought NocturneMage is mafia but at this point i like his D2 (especially the push on Superbia, while it was soft and sorta faded out, it was still okay given that i think Superbia is definitely mafia). When Superbia flips scum, never ever lynch NM.

Superbia and MoosyDoosy defs top mafia at this moment.

I have to reread Slam's and Breshke's filters, but usually i am really good in remembering shit i find scummy and i don't think Breshke has much of it. I have honcestly not paid much attention to what Slam has been posting this day phase because it was pretty much garbage at the start of the day and i thought he was mafia. It is just that Superbia posts i pointed out are really contradicting and i find him more scummy at.

Cop i would suggest you check into Superbia/MoosyDoosy/Slam/Breshke (that's my order of preference) this night.
If you get red, think if it is the correct play to out and make your decision. If you got green, do remember that there is a godfather in this game, so one of your checks might not be accurate.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 02:44 GMT
#1843
On September 10 2015 11:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the short reasoning is Moosy for his shit read on noobking and not realizing GB has to be mafia FOR the counterclaim AND not dying. Both of those are no-brainer things and Moosy is intelligent enough to understand that.

Superbia is mafai for the sole fact that he made a post where he says "my next post is going to solve the game most likely". His next post has FOUR scumreads AND three null-reads.

A. my read on n00bKing was perfectly fine but you're refusing to accept it.

Yeah it would be fine if you did not go consistently against it.

? i've already explained my thought process behind the "inconsistencies" you've pointed out but you just don't accept it. like sure, i've accepted that you're tunneled so just make a case on end of night and hopefully you're at least right on superbia. either way, it's pretty dumb of mafia to kill you here because your claim about being a doctor was obviously false.


Wait so if Ryan's claim about being the doctor was false why were you fine with people lynching GB????

rayn was confident enough in his read on GB to do his doc claim shenanigans.

I believe GB convinced you of this in your scum QT.
I seriously do and you are making it worse every moment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 02:58 GMT
#1848
On September 10 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 11:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the short reasoning is Moosy for his shit read on noobking and not realizing GB has to be mafia FOR the counterclaim AND not dying. Both of those are no-brainer things and Moosy is intelligent enough to understand that.

Superbia is mafai for the sole fact that he made a post where he says "my next post is going to solve the game most likely". His next post has FOUR scumreads AND three null-reads.

A. my read on n00bKing was perfectly fine but you're refusing to accept it.

Yeah it would be fine if you did not go consistently against it.

? i've already explained my thought process behind the "inconsistencies" you've pointed out but you just don't accept it. like sure, i've accepted that you're tunneled so just make a case on end of night and hopefully you're at least right on superbia. either way, it's pretty dumb of mafia to kill you here because your claim about being a doctor was obviously false.


Wait so if Ryan's claim about being the doctor was false why were you fine with people lynching GB????

rayn was confident enough in his read on GB to do his doc claim shenanigans.

I believe GB convinced you of this in your scum QT.
I seriously do and you are making it worse every moment.

ok. i already provided reasoning early on as to why your claim would have been false which apparently also falls into your whole timeline of GB convincing me about you. like sure if you want to think that lol. it’s completely in your character to do a fake claim in order to force a lynch that you’re positive in whether you think that of yourself or not.
-shrugs-
if this was your case i’m kind of disappointed. all it provides is: “lynch these people and then do this based on the results”

i’d also like your reasoning as to why you think copcake is the cop?

First of all you ahev absolutely no idea what would "fit my character" or what does not.

Second, if you were town and you believed you are right here (that i am fakeclaiming), you would be happy about it and shut up, because that would result in mafia shooting me (as NOONE except you in this game believes this is the case) and the real doctor doccing me. So yeah, what you are saying here doesn't make a single bit of sense from town perspective.

Third, i have never implied i think Cake is the cop. I don't bluehunt when i am town. When a blue flips or outs i see if it makes sense or not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 03:00 GMT
#1849
Nobody talk about blue roles with MoosyDoosy so you do not give anything out.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 03:40 GMT
#1860
On September 10 2015 12:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 11:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the short reasoning is Moosy for his shit read on noobking and not realizing GB has to be mafia FOR the counterclaim AND not dying. Both of those are no-brainer things and Moosy is intelligent enough to understand that.

Superbia is mafai for the sole fact that he made a post where he says "my next post is going to solve the game most likely". His next post has FOUR scumreads AND three null-reads.

A. my read on n00bKing was perfectly fine but you're refusing to accept it.

Yeah it would be fine if you did not go consistently against it.

? i've already explained my thought process behind the "inconsistencies" you've pointed out but you just don't accept it. like sure, i've accepted that you're tunneled so just make a case on end of night and hopefully you're at least right on superbia. either way, it's pretty dumb of mafia to kill you here because your claim about being a doctor was obviously false.


Wait so if Ryan's claim about being the doctor was false why were you fine with people lynching GB????

rayn was confident enough in his read on GB to do his doc claim shenanigans.

I believe GB convinced you of this in your scum QT.
I seriously do and you are making it worse every moment.

ok. i already provided reasoning early on as to why your claim would have been false which apparently also falls into your whole timeline of GB convincing me about you. like sure if you want to think that lol. it’s completely in your character to do a fake claim in order to force a lynch that you’re positive in whether you think that of yourself or not.
-shrugs-
if this was your case i’m kind of disappointed. all it provides is: “lynch these people and then do this based on the results”

i’d also like your reasoning as to why you think copcake is the cop?

First of all you ahev absolutely no idea what would "fit my character" or what does not.

Second, if you were town and you believed you are right here (that i am fakeclaiming), you would be happy about it and shut up, because that would result in mafia shooting me (as NOONE except you in this game believes this is the case) and the real doctor doccing me. So yeah, what you are saying here doesn't make a single bit of sense from town perspective.

Third, i have never implied i think Cake is the cop. I don't bluehunt when i am town. When a blue flips or outs i see if it makes sense or not.

1. ok. how long will it take me to get some semblance of your meta? 2 years? 3?
2. no i will not be fucking happy because you are the town leader and we need you alive. like if ur not the doc then ur still the obvious target to heal and i think the doc has the mind to do that anyway. on the off chance that u are the doc i don't want the mafia to lynch u. wat about that in my posts trying to protect u do you not get??? i don't want you to die.
3. then why did u tell cake to check superbia/me/slam/breshke in that post of urs?

1. definitely more than one game.
2. no no no.
3. rofl
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 03:49 GMT
#1862
I am pretty sure we have played exactly once together.
If i am not right please do correct me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 03:52 GMT
#1864
Okay in which of those games i fakeclaimed to get my read killed?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 03:56 GMT
#1866
In what exactly was your read on GlowingBear based on to begin with?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 03:57 GMT
#1867
I also guess you sat out the game where Hopeless, trfel and rsoultin were mafia correct?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:04 GMT
#1872
On September 10 2015 13:01 Breshke wrote:
Moosey even in the retardedness world where rayn isn't the doctor can you explain what town motivation you have raising your suspicions about this AT NIGHT even when you don't think rayn is mafia


Like this.
On D1 you don't want to believe me & yamato over yourself. Apparently you had a townread on both of us.
On N1 GlowingBear is an uncounterclaimed doctor, you suddenly believe him to be mafia??!?!?
On D2, when i "fakeclaim", you STILL think GlowingBear is mafia, when he STILL is in your opinion uncounterclaimed doctor.

It doesn't make any sense at all, given that this is something i would NOT do as town, but actually i COULD do that as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:06 GMT
#1874
On September 10 2015 13:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
if rayn is doctor, then i hopefully draw away a kill on him by saying that he was obviously fakeclaiming which also matches my belief that he was.

This does not make any sense either, because when i die, you look like shit as NOTHING you say right now makes any sense. You should NOT be the one wifoming in case you are town, because you want to be clear as possible. If i die and you are town, you just put yourself in the death row.

Saying you were WIFOMing the night kill helps you exactly 0% of the time there.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:10 GMT
#1875
Breshke how does the flip affect your reads?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:16 GMT
#1878
No you are not too arrogant.
But i still think you do not make any sense in scumreading GlowingBear when he is supposed to be un-cc'd doctor to you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:22 GMT
#1880
Fine.

Well let's assume you are town for like until the end of night because otherwise we are not gonna have a productive discussion. I have asked you everything i want to regarding you.

Who is your other scumread besides Cake? We obviously disagree on that one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:30 GMT
#1883
nah you can do that tomorrow aswell. there is still time and i am gonna be here all tomorrow anyways since the distraction of glowingbear has been removed from the game.

you look into who you believe is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:35 GMT
#1885
Alakaslam why did you read GlowingBear mafia on N1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 04:44 GMT
#1891
No, a real reason.

So far your reasoning for any of your reads is just plain out terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 05:13 GMT
#1895
On September 10 2015 14:09 Breshke wrote:
Rayn bout your question before I kind of think Fidel is more townie after the flip (explained it to moosey a bit before

Also you are obviously lock town now

I also fail to understand how moosey can be town after the last few pages unless he is really stupid which I don't think/hope is the case.

I would need to check this out but didn't you believe GB was scum in the first place on D2?
Like how does it make sense your read on Fidei changes when you already think "GB is scum = true"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 05:17 GMT
#1898
On September 08 2015 08:17 Breshke wrote:
I don't understand why we couldn't have just lynched GB without rayn claiming

I mean you say things like this, and then your read om Fidei (on D2) is not like:
- "GB is mafia -> therefore Fidei XYZ"

but instead

- "My read on Fidei is this, BUT if GB flips mafia it changes in this way"


Like obviously i am "exxaggerating" here, but you should get what i mean.
It's like you have a red check but you "are not sure on someone in case your red check is in fact town".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 10 2015 05:17 GMT
#1899
On September 10 2015 14:15 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 14:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 14:09 Breshke wrote:
Rayn bout your question before I kind of think Fidel is more townie after the flip (explained it to moosey a bit before

Also you are obviously lock town now

I also fail to understand how moosey can be town after the last few pages unless he is really stupid which I don't think/hope is the case.

I would need to check this out but didn't you believe GB was scum in the first place on D2?
Like how does it make sense your read on Fidei changes when you already think "GB is scum = true"?


ahh I thought the question ment what reads have changed since the flip not because of the flip

oh okay, i misunderstood then.
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