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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 22:38 GMT
#867
On August 27 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't buy the CC looks too good so he must be mafia.


no

looks too good would be the wrong answer from jat

jat's actual answer is that cc was hard-defending him as if he had tmi...too correct
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 22:40 GMT
#871
On August 27 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:38 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't buy the CC looks too good so he must be mafia.


no

looks too good would be the wrong answer from jat

jat's actual answer is that cc was hard-defending him as if he had tmi...too correct

was it?

that's not how i read it


that's what i just got him to clarify @.@

meh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 22:41 GMT
#875
On August 27 2015 07:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:20 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
also explain

constructed posts as "too clean"?

No. Too clean basically means "too correct"/"too reasonable".


too correct in what way?

Are you really this stupid or are you playing it?


i want to know

in clear english

exactly what you're saying ^^

so yes, i want to know in what way you think his posts are too correct. examples. what gave you that impression. you gave a thesis statement and i want the meat

He was on my side immediately and had a very good grasp on the situation from the very beginning even though very influential people like you and Palmar insisted on showing their lack of intelligence by attacking me for no reason. I just think this is easier to do as mafia who knows that I am town and that certain people are being retarded.


^

??? what am i misinterpreting?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 22:45 GMT
#887
On August 27 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:20 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
also explain

constructed posts as "too clean"?

No. Too clean basically means "too correct"/"too reasonable".


too correct in what way?

Are you really this stupid or are you playing it?


i want to know

in clear english

exactly what you're saying ^^

so yes, i want to know in what way you think his posts are too correct. examples. what gave you that impression. you gave a thesis statement and i want the meat

He was on my side immediately and had a very good grasp on the situation from the very beginning even though very influential people like you and Palmar insisted on showing their lack of intelligence by attacking me for no reason. I just think this is easier to do as mafia who knows that I am town and that certain people are being retarded.


^

??? what am i misinterpreting?

I think you are arguing semantics right now. Looking good and being right aren't mutually exclusive.


-_-

i'm not arguing semantics

i'm saying a scumread on "too polished" is not enough to make me doubt my scumread on you, and it is a weak reason to scumread cc in a vacuum. i don't know him and i don't think ksc does either cause we started playing at about the same time

i think it's a fairly townie thing to be suspicious of the one guy defending you, especially when it's for no good reason. that makes me doubt my scumread

it's really not to your advantage to keep firing at me every chance you get, especially if you think i'm town -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:45 GMT
#958
okay not lynching cc

hope you've got something better than that if you're town, jat lol ><

cause in all honesty by the time i go to bed i'll probably stay on wherever i'm parked; thursday is my heavy day for classes
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:47 GMT
#959
On August 27 2015 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo
Hopeless1der is more likely to be scum than the other two because of meta.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia

Here you go.

It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, and very useful.


>> i think you should stop being a lazy fuck and actually filter dive/read the thread instead of defaulting to a metaread that could just be hopeless has no time

has he posted a single thing? cause i don't remember him doing so
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:49 GMT
#960
btw this is not me scumreading you

i know that this is likely you just being lazy cause you like to really put in the work when you analyze. i'm asking you as nicely as i can (given i don't have all the time in the world myself) to at least look through the people others are suspicious of instead of blatantly thumbing your nose at the thread. you signed up
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:53 GMT
#962
lynch preferences jat/vivax

i'll compromise outside of

palmar
marv
wave
moosy
ksc
truffle
cc

and pooooossssibly ve though i care less about him than the others there

as general null/don't give a fuck if they're lynched types
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:55 GMT
#963
On August 27 2015 11:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul is almost sexier than Kels right now which is quite something.


impossible o.0

oh, wait...i should say duh...or...

lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:23 GMT
#1062
lol um so basically no he's townreading me but being an asshat by putting me in null to protect his ego lol truffle is pulling a marv. tbf he does always townread me (or claim he won't give a read on me but will instead ignore me, while treating me like town) ever since i've proven i can fool him when i'm scum

it's nothing unusual for a town truffle?

meh -_- what i don't like about jat really apart from his refusal to really play like i'd expect him to is i have a tendency to townread him even when he's scum and as i said before, that i'm this suspicious of him is just...it makes me not want to drop the read

i have doubted it a couple times. i do think he could just be frustrated town playing shit. but his stubbornness about the truffle thing is very off-putting and his inability to work around suspicion is bad as well. i know he bullies people off him when he's scum so i'm trying to ignore the AtE

and i'm trying not to fight with him when he keeps trying to draw me into one when i was giving him breathing room

why he doesn't contribute to the game even while being scumread i don't understand. i've always been capable of that as town and my impression of him is he should be emotionally mature enough to be able to do that as town as well

ftr if i throw fits without contributing that is almost always when i'm mafia

like, i don't think he's town and i don't like to put it this way cause rayn's done this to me way too much recently and it makes you feel like shit if you are town but frankly...i don't think he can be this bad as town

i still want to lynch him. conversely, i'm not like 100% or even close to 100% sure and i'd understand if people didn't think rsoul feels she's not even completely sure of are enough

and now i think i've rambled and it's not clear -_-

but anyway

i'm not seeing anyone else who i think has a strong possibility of being scum, just a bunch of afkish blahs lol

also vivax waffle vivax waffle someone help me with vivax why isn't it obvious what his alignment is to me @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:29 GMT
#1067
On August 27 2015 20:25 marvellosity wrote:
and Vivax, because he's not doing much, he keeps doing quick flybys.


:/ i liked it when he made himself obvious to me

meh i'm gonna put him in my scumleans but maybe prefer an afker over him for lynch i dunnae i don't have a reason to think he's town but at the same time i think i'll be able to tell later

nh

anything else

oh

bf may be the best afker. sounds dumb but he almost seemed "too reasonable" while being useless, and i haven't experienced his scum game, but i remember his town game being quite frustrating at times for lack of sense making
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:32 GMT
#1069
oh random gutfeels cc is town for like

this one section where he said lots of shit talking to himself, shit that i can't remember, but just you know eagerness and tone and things made me think that

i'm not gonna push that read at all at all with people who know him better though so lol marv if you're tunneled there just know that i'll defer to you and try not to be xP insofar as that's possible for anyone and while hoping that i'm not doing that with jat right now lol ><

and yes reads list would be good jat
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:35 GMT
#1072
On August 27 2015 20:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:23 rsoultin wrote:
lol um so basically no he's townreading me but being an asshat by putting me in null to protect his ego lol truffle is pulling a marv. tbf he does always townread me (or claim he won't give a read on me but will instead ignore me, while treating me like town) ever since i've proven i can fool him when i'm scum

it's nothing unusual for a town truffle?

meh -_- what i don't like about jat really apart from his refusal to really play like i'd expect him to
is i have a tendency to townread him even when he's scum and as i said before, that i'm this suspicious of him is just...it makes me not want to drop the read

i have doubted it a couple times. i do think he could just be frustrated town playing shit. but his stubbornness about the truffle thing is very off-putting and his inability to work around suspicion is bad as well. i know he bullies people off him when he's scum so i'm trying to ignore the AtE

and i'm trying not to fight with him when he keeps trying to draw me into one when i was giving him breathing room

why he doesn't contribute to the game even while being scumread i don't understand. i've always been capable of that as town and my impression of him is he should be emotionally mature enough to be able to do that as town as well

ftr if i throw fits without contributing that is almost always when i'm mafia

like, i don't think he's town and i don't like to put it this way cause rayn's done this to me way too much recently and it makes you feel like shit if you are town but frankly...i don't think he can be this bad as town

i still want to lynch him. conversely, i'm not like 100% or even close to 100% sure and i'd understand if people didn't think rsoul feels she's not even completely sure of are enough

and now i think i've rambled and it's not clear -_-

but anyway

i'm not seeing anyone else who i think has a strong possibility of being scum, just a bunch of afkish blahs lol

also vivax waffle vivax waffle someone help me with vivax why isn't it obvious what his alignment is to me @.@

1) Stop applying your own meta to me. It is stupid.
2) I have not been shit and you never even remotely adressed any of the points I brought up directly so you don't get to call them shit in the first place.
3) Scumreading someone for the bolded is a common mistake which is done by new or bad players most of the time.

You are doing exactly what you say makes people feel like shit as town (calling me scum for not being town enough instead of having any reason to scumread me) but then you are surprised when it pisses me off. At some point you should maybe start thinking about what you are doing/saying.


yes, this is how i toneread people i know
i have an insanely good track record reading people this way, especially good players. by insanely i mean somewhere over 90% and it's always players like marv, damdy, rayn, etc. etc.
whether or not the method looks good to others (and i'm aware it doesn't look strong) it works. that's why i use it

this is an example of attacking me instead of contributing which i'd expect you to be capable of as town, because i am, and as you've repeatedly attempted to say in direct and not so direct ways, i'm a horrible player so you should be better than me

right?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:36 GMT
#1073
On August 27 2015 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Essentially there is noone who really thinks I am scum for anything else than not being insanely towny while there are multiple very viable explanations for this observation.
How anyone can think this makes me (who will always become more readable as time goes by) the best day1 lynch does not know how to play the game of mafia.


the last time you told me to shut up about a d1 read i had because "objectively" they weren't a good d1 lynch

it was marv in assassination

he was mafia
you were mafia

play
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:42 GMT
#1081
you still seem to lack comprehension as to why i want to lynch you

whether you agree with my initial scumread or not, whether you think it was stupid or not, that's not why i still want to lynch you. it has everything to do with your reaction to literally two players who let's be honest people tend to ignore on day ones so acting like you're some sort of martyr this whole time is fucking stupid
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:43 GMT
#1082
On August 27 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
fine, you're getting lynched for 0 reason.

the whole game is full of idiots and they love lynching you based on nothing.

Now we've established that, there's little point bitching about being lynched for 0 reason, that's just the way things are.

you could like... talk about other things.


so much this -_-

reads jat come on. if you have to talk to him instead of me, do it, but do it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 11:54 GMT
#1093
On August 27 2015 20:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:43 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
fine, you're getting lynched for 0 reason.

the whole game is full of idiots and they love lynching you based on nothing.

Now we've established that, there's little point bitching about being lynched for 0 reason, that's just the way things are.

you could like... talk about other things.


so much this -_-

reads jat come on. if you have to talk to him instead of me, do it, but do it

The more you try to give orders the me the longer I will wait until I do anything besides calling you stupid.


it's not orders

this is me

appealing to the town in jat

to help me get out of my scumread on you

if there is no town in jat feel free to ignore it

i have explained why i think you're scum and have attempted to give you the opportunity to change that read multiple times while you continue to act like some sort of toddler in the middle of a tantrum calling me names and calling me shit. okay. whatever. i'm shit. that make you happy? now do something to make even a shit player like me think you're town. marv is waffling on you cause you

objectively

do not

look

town

and no, palmar and i do get ignored a lot cause of our reasons for things. it is what it is. he gets paid attention to a bit more cause he's proven he's not shit and i sometimes get paid attention to depending on who is in the game, but an early toneread from us is not enough to hang you so this display is just juvenile

this is the last time i'm appealing to you

if you're town clearly my read is wonky but it won't be completely my fault, either, tbf and it will be one of the few mislynches i've pushed that i won't feel particularly bad about -_- so please if you're town just make it clear, damn you
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 12:01 GMT
#1096
that was the last time i'm appealing to you. it's up to you now

i will also be ignoring all posts like this ^ that are blatant attempts at AtE/bullying

you've been warned

and now i'm gonna eat breakfast and go to class so ye...i'll read what goes on

jat...bf...hopeless i think would be my lynches in that order? i don't much care about condor personally one way or another either but i know he was a super easy mislynch in storm so eh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 12:03 GMT
#1098
vivax/ve under review

things i liked/disliked about both and no time to pursue it nor any confidence that doing so would make it any clearer to me before the info i like to have after a lynch lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 12:26 GMT
#1106
lol i hesitate

cause fuck wave

he can fool me and has

but really it seemed to me like he got suspicious of moosy early for moosy relying on others (which i actually don't find that strange in anyone, especially new players, but i get the paranoia) and has been kinda...tunneled...on him since? i think wave's wrong but i don't know that that makes him scum?

ksc mind quoting the stuff jat actually did? like i remember the stuff on truffle to some extent but i remember it from vivax i think maybe? i'm pretty sure it was vivax
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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