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On August 27 2015 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 10:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 27 2015 10:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy I'm here entertain me Why exactly did you say that JAT was town earlier? What post/argument in particular made you change your mind. I said somewhere that JAT was town, but I didn't really have a reason for it. I thought that Palmar's argument was bad, and figured that JAT was just the victim of Palmar's rage. He was probably just town being attacked. I did think, though, the way he stood his ground against Palmar was townie. However, somewhere along the line I realized that no matter JAT's alignment he can't just back down. I still don't think that Palmar's case has any weight, and this meta stuff i don't care about. I told JAT I'd lynch him if he didn't do anything productive, and that's true. He's complained about Palmar scumreading him but hasn't really done much (scumhunting) to earn himself a pass for today. So...town read? scum read? null read? exactly where is he on ur list of reads. It's evolved from probably just town to nullish into I-have-no-idea lol
Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read?
-shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for being accused of what's "no real case" and getting angry over it.
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On August 27 2015 10:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 27 2015 10:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 27 2015 10:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy I'm here entertain me Why exactly did you say that JAT was town earlier? What post/argument in particular made you change your mind. I said somewhere that JAT was town, but I didn't really have a reason for it. I thought that Palmar's argument was bad, and figured that JAT was just the victim of Palmar's rage. He was probably just town being attacked. I did think, though, the way he stood his ground against Palmar was townie. However, somewhere along the line I realized that no matter JAT's alignment he can't just back down. I still don't think that Palmar's case has any weight, and this meta stuff i don't care about. I told JAT I'd lynch him if he didn't do anything productive, and that's true. He's complained about Palmar scumreading him but hasn't really done much (scumhunting) to earn himself a pass for today. So...town read? scum read? null read? exactly where is he on ur list of reads. It's evolved from probably just town to nullish into I-have-no-idea lol Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read? -shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for being accused of what's "no real case" and getting angry over it.
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Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read?
-shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for getting angry over "no real case".
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On August 27 2015 10:58 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 10:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:41 Trfel wrote:On August 27 2015 10:39 Trfel wrote:On August 27 2015 08:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
No. I find Trfel's post strange as well. hopeless1der is likely to get modkilled at any rate so there's no use in voting him right now. Not to mention there's been no discussion about VE recently, although Kels has been questioning about me.
@Trfel, give us other thoughts on more people. Who else would you lynch besides hopeless. Hopeless1der isn't going to get modkilled. He'll come back and start posting. But I don't care, I want to talk about him now. Why don't you? Why should I want to discuss VisceraEyes? Ok, fine, I take it back. I should probably discuss VisceraEyes. ? There's no way for you to know that Hopeless1der is going to come back unless you've talked with him outside of this thread. Ok, I don't know for certain that Hopeless1der is coming back. But I don't care about if he gets replaced or modkilled? I'll deal with that if/when it happens. What is your point?
Share your thoughts on others and switch your vote. If Hopeless1der comes back and doesn't get modkilled then we can decide what to do with him. But since he hasn't done anything, it's kinda ridiculous to try and kill him. I'd like the "share your thoughts" part especially.
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On August 27 2015 11:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 10:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 27 2015 10:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 27 2015 10:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy I'm here entertain me Why exactly did you say that JAT was town earlier? What post/argument in particular made you change your mind. I said somewhere that JAT was town, but I didn't really have a reason for it. I thought that Palmar's argument was bad, and figured that JAT was just the victim of Palmar's rage. He was probably just town being attacked. I did think, though, the way he stood his ground against Palmar was townie. However, somewhere along the line I realized that no matter JAT's alignment he can't just back down. I still don't think that Palmar's case has any weight, and this meta stuff i don't care about. I told JAT I'd lynch him if he didn't do anything productive, and that's true. He's complained about Palmar scumreading him but hasn't really done much (scumhunting) to earn himself a pass for today. So...town read? scum read? null read? exactly where is he on ur list of reads. It's evolved from probably just town to nullish into I-have-no-idea lol Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read? -shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for being accused of what's "no real case" and getting angry over it. I agree there was / is no real case on him, but JAT's reaction to the pressure is pretty horrible because he isn't doing anything productive. I figure if he were townie he'd shrug off the pressure and just give his reads. Right? I think mafia have a higher propensity to get angry about being scumread. I also wanted to see his reaction to me flipping on him. His reaction was thus: Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 06:58 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 06:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JAT I need your top scumread. I could lynch you because I think you are being objectively scummy by sulking that Palmar is being a meanie pants. So if you're town please brush yourself off and behind anew like a phoenix rising from it's ashes. Produce all that content that others are not providing. Haha, you are a funny one. Weren't you the guy harddefending me earlier? And now you want to lynch me for being "objectively scummy" even though I wasn't even in the thread since then? It's midnight, I am drunk and I have to get up early tomorrow. If you think I will put any serious effort in right now you are delusional. It's part incorrect, part weird since he liked my posts about Wave. I also asked him nicely to be productive and rise from his ashes.
hmm...ok. Not lynching Cheesycakes today or D2 unless something radical comes up.
I'd like reads from Trfel~~
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On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo
I town tone read deconduo and boxer has done nothing. I don't really care to lynch either of them.
Also, I am not most likely town this game. I've been playing very sub-optimally and have been deviating very far from my D1 meta which was a mistake on my part. -shrugs- But I'll make do for now until N1.
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On August 27 2015 11:11 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo Hopeless1der is more likely to be scum than the other two because of meta. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafiaHere you go. It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, and very useful.
Sigh. As I'm saying, meta is all fine and well but as I say, Hopeless will resolve himself at the end of D1. Either he posts and we lynch him or he doesn't post and he's replaced/modkilled.
Eh, I don't see why you're so hung up on him. who is #2 lynch target besides hopeless?
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I'm inclined to pressure deconduo and force him to give us reads. His absolute absence of any is rather worrying as he normally would have at least some. The only thing really going for him is tone reads.
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On August 27 2015 11:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 11:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm inclined to pressure deconduo and force him to give us reads. His absolute absence of any is rather worrying as he normally would have at least some. The only thing really going for him is tone reads. What exactly is his "tone" in his posts? I'm reading his tone as ambivalent, which seems null at best. The only post I saw sort of town was his "let me tunnel" post because it seemed excited, but that excitement was quickly extinguished by him not doing anything.
He's relaxed and/or having fun and doesn't seem stressed at all. But that can be faked which is why he needs to give reads.
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rsoul is almost sexier than Kels right now which is quite something.
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On August 27 2015 22:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2015 22:16 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 27 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't buy the CC looks too good so he must be mafia. This is a thing. It's literally in his sig and he PLAYS around it AS mafia. Go read the QT from Nomination mafia (I think) where he mentions it several times after replacing in. im just not going to do that What do you think about my post about CC's case? Just remove anything that says anything about "looks too good to be town" and give me your opinion.
I mean, the only thing that's really marks against CC right now is meta (which is useless in this case) and that he has taken very confident early stances. It's suspicious enough to warrant a second look since the second point can be TMI, but I don't think it's enough to try and make a case on him D1.
I'm really just trying to decide on JAT right now. For some reason he's been hating on rsoultin when she's been reasonable. Perhaps it's because I read the intention behind rsoul's posts a lot better but I feel he's been bashing her more than vice versa.
Anyway, I agree with what's been said. The only mark really against JAT is that he's been pointing fingers at everyone and flinging things although that can be seen as an angry townie. But I don't honestly think that JAT would do this as Mafia from what I hear of him (apparently he's fairly capable). If he's Mafia I feel that he would have done something a lot earlier to throw suspicion off him. Right now it's basically "too bad to be Mafia". Might just be me waffling hard right now, but that's where I'm at.
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On August 28 2015 01:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh god the spampocalypse. I was not prepared for this. I'm going to go full blazinghand and use his RNG methods while I read the thread and then yolo it.
RNG being this (post's ID)Mod13 (0=decon, 1=wave, 2=vivax etc)
##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der
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mmm...I'm probably needlessly late but I was actually watching Leon: The Professional. Been a long time since I saw a decent hitman movie tbh. Too bad hits can't work like that nowaday. 
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On August 28 2015 01:14 Hopeless1der wrote:24788433 ->7 ->7) Mr. Cheesecake (filter)##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake
l0l
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I still want to resolve JAT/Trfel. I feel that one is a scum wagon and one is a town. Highly unlikely it's both town or both mafia.
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On August 28 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 01:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I still want to resolve JAT/Trfel. I feel that one is a scum wagon and one is a town. Highly unlikely it's both town or both mafia.
why
idk im mafia and just trying to scrape by. They're actually both town and I'm trying to force 2 town lynches in a row. duh.
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On August 28 2015 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
no, it's a shit answer.
explain why you said what you said
-shrugs- idk why i said what i said. it's just a feeling that i'm sure others are feeling. either way i gtg. be back in like 2 hrs or so.
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On August 28 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
like specifically, what is it about their interactions or the interactions of others with them (and WHO in this case) that makes you feel town-town is "highly unlikely"
idk it's just a feeling. look at the wagons and how people are reading the two. if we lynch one or the other, it's a potshot and splits the list making it easier to read.
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nvm i got like 15 more min if ya'll want to talk i'm down to clown rite now.
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