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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 18:05 GMT
#775
Yeh I want to lynch wave actually
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 18:10 GMT
#777
On August 27 2015 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Do eet.

oh i'll fucking do eet
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 18:17 GMT
#779
On August 27 2015 03:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
OMGUS, paranoia, and something I can't talk about makes me wonder if KSC is scum.
Low priority either way.


sick case
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 18:20 GMT
#784
On August 27 2015 03:20 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 02:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Where did deconduo go?


I got bored after page 22 or so and drank a bottle of wine instead


i approve
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 21:49 GMT
#815
wave you said you were interested in moosy's thoughts...what do you think of his play since your return.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 21:50 GMT
#817
On August 27 2015 06:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 02:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
No, you won't and I am sick of your trolling. Go do something useful. So far you only tunneled on a townie and acted like a total asshole about it.

Hi mafia.

I am not trolling. I am not being an asshole.

I have also done fuckton else. I have an entire array of people I'm townreading!

Yes, you are. There is no way you can seriously consider Trfel confirmed town. There is no way you would back off me for calling Trfel confirmed town. The only intention you have is making me mad.


what you are doing is throwing a tantrum. i am even willing to remove my vote if that will allow you to be less tantrum-y, but throwing a tantrum and saying people are bad does not make you town

your trfel push is shit

do something that isn't. that's what i'm looking for. i've yet to see it

Your push on me is shit. My Trfel point is still one of the best ones that have been brought up this game. But we already established that you are having a bad game if you are town and ftr I still kinda think you are.


it's shit. i debunked it. move on

reasons

You haven't debunked anything and no, I won't give you any reasons. You will have to find something to talk about that's not me. Suck it. I am off.


you fail to understand why i'm scumreading you and you also fail to note that i've been talking about plenty of things not you ^^ this looks more like a dodge to me than anything else

enjoy your bday


can i get like a summary of what else you said.

not that I don't love reading all your posts but...it's easier if it just one place

The summary is the following: Rsoultin does not think I am "jatty" enough. Evidently she hasn't even the slightest idea of what jatty is.

And wow you guys produced like 2 pages since I left. I bet I will se an incredible amount of scumhunting upon reading this.


blame wine
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 21:56 GMT
#821
On August 27 2015 06:44 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 23:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 26 2015 23:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
marv out of curiosity what WERE those two posts that palmar got you off of in some game? I assume they were more substantive than this game. Trfel may have just been joking, too.

Trfel was not joking. He is a very serious player. It is when he jokes that he is Mafia more often than not.
Rsoultin, I thought you taught MoosyDoosy how to play mafia?

Clearly you haven't done a very good job


trfel...don't know how caught up you are but you need to explain , in detail, what you meant about "waiting to hear palmar's thoughts about marv"
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 22:37 GMT
#862
I don't buy the CC looks too good so he must be mafia.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 22:43 GMT
#883
wave what did you get from moosy, you said you wanted thoughts from him.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 22:48 GMT
#894
On August 27 2015 07:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:43 KelsierSC wrote:
wave what did you get from moosy, you said you wanted thoughts from him.

I'll give proper thoughts later but as I recall he hasn't done that much since I asked, has he?


i mean..yes he has
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 22:58 GMT
#902
off to bed, too much wine
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 11:19 GMT
#1061
Morning everyone, catching up
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 11:46 GMT
#1085
On August 27 2015 20:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:43 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:
fine, you're getting lynched for 0 reason.

the whole game is full of idiots and they love lynching you based on nothing.

Now we've established that, there's little point bitching about being lynched for 0 reason, that's just the way things are.

you could like... talk about other things.


so much this -_-

reads jat come on. if you have to talk to him instead of me, do it, but do it

The more you try to give orders the me the longer I will wait until I do anything besides calling you stupid.


come on man
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 12:20 GMT
#1104
List time

Town

Rsoultin - Tone read and her attitude to the game
feels towny to me, interactions with JAT, myself, Trefl etc.
despite her best attempts she has been very reasonable.

Marv - I like his interaction with palmar early in the day and the
way his reads have progressed has felt town.

Palmar - I was a bit skeptical of palmar because his play has been to just push
JAT, but i've seen a few posts I like that make me think he's town. and his chats with marv.
leads to

Trefl - Same reasons as palmar I like a few of the posts. He was the first person to really
dive into the game and question VE. Plus I agreed with his meta read on Hopeless.

CC - I just really like to read when he writes it makes me tingle. In terms of his reads
I agree with the point he raised initially about JAT,

VE - I had a mindmeld with him about moosy early on, . I liked his
concern about palmar/marv . overall just agreed with a lot of his thoughts.

Scum

Wave - This comes down to a few points. One is his reentry to the thread saying oh yeh
JAT is mafia but I can't get a further read because palmar is pushing him, it feels like
trying to absolve himself of rseponsibility if the lynch is bad.

The second point is how he tries to point out that moosy is pocketing him.

Moosy because pocketing efforts when I am the only one in this game he knows to be 'good.'
I say 'good' because I have been SUPER on point in the last whole bunch of games I've played (as both alignments for once) and Moosy correctly realizes that I could be a threat based on that.


he then wants to get moosy's thoughts and responds thusly.

On August 27 2015 01:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am interested in Moosy's thoughts now that I have arrived.


On August 27 2015 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like MAYBE I can see Moosy giving lynch wagon credit to rsoul.
Maybe.
But me?

And since I've come back Moosy has asked me a few random questions that just seem really disjointed---like i don't get the feeling of why he needed me to come back in the first place so urgently.


ok what did he make of all of moosy's actions?

On August 27 2015 07:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:43 KelsierSC wrote:
wave what did you get from moosy, you said you wanted thoughts from him.

I'll give proper thoughts later but as I recall he hasn't done that much since I asked, has he?


which is not true at all, Moosy had posted like a whole other page of stuff including changing his vote and giving a list
of reads, feel like wave should be more invested than that.

overall it just feels like he is happy to lynch JAT without commital whilst throwing suspicion at moosy.


Hopeless - CC and Trefl made the best points about this. I totally agree

Vivax - I trust Rsoultin on this one, he has done absolutely nothing except ask a few weird questions



nulls

moosy - I don't see mafia moosy going "hey scum buddy wave help me out" but moosy has been very inconsistent
however he has inserted himself into most points of the game and tried to question/give opinions...i generally
have a low tolerance for inconsistincies and I think moosy may be... confused town if that makes sense.



About JAT

So the main thing about him right now is that he "hasn't done anything" well a couple of things here
if you look through his filter you actually do see things, he didn't like wave and made points about him
he didn't like trefl later on in teh day when trefl was completely missing sarcasm/jokes. he was pushing things.
the apparent obstinance is because of palmar's fuck you you're mafia. I'd want to see more from JAT as things
go on but I don't think he has been scummy.

bf and decon - unaware of meta but AFK is shitty, i thought bf was a tryhard but...see what they do



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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 12:35 GMT
#1110
On August 27 2015 21:26 rsoultin wrote:
lol i hesitate

cause fuck wave

he can fool me and has

but really it seemed to me like he got suspicious of moosy early for moosy relying on others (which i actually don't find that strange in anyone, especially new players, but i get the paranoia) and has been kinda...tunneled...on him since? i think wave's wrong but i don't know that that makes him scum?

ksc mind quoting the stuff jat actually did? like i remember the stuff on truffle to some extent but i remember it from vivax i think maybe? i'm pretty sure it was vivax


stuff on wave

On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.


On August 27 2015 01:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.

You're sweet.
I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep.

I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read.

Cool. So what is decent about the read?


[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.
/QUOTE]
????????????
What is this shit?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:10 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:05 KelsierSC wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.[/QUOTE]
You're sweet.
I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep.

I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read.[/QUOTE]

what is it that is good about it?[/QUOTE]
I got some feels about it a little early on because I'm used to JAT being a fun-killer as town and wasn't getting any of that, and he was fairly forgettable early as well when he has no problem inserting himself into stuff. The fact that Palmar when ham super early makes it more difficult for ME to get a better read on him, but also the fact that Palmar is going ham on him so early is a good sign based on my recent experiences with town Palmar, so I am absolutely fine sheeping here. Certainly doesn't hurt that marv agrees and is 99.9% town. [/QUOTE]
Where does marv agree? This is the most bullshit read on me I ever saw btw.[/QUOTE]

stuff on trefl

[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:
Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no?

Don't really have time to filter dive right now.

I want to lynch Hopeless1der.

##vote Hopeless1der

Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.[/QUOTE]
Explanation please.

Why Hopeless?

Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:19 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:
Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no?

Don't really have time to filter dive right now.

I want to lynch Hopeless1der.

##vote Hopeless1der

Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.[/QUOTE]
Explanation please.

Why Hopeless?

Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?[/QUOTE]Because I think that Hopeless1der has a fair chance of being mafia, and it's not something I need to read a lot of filters or think super critically about. Look at his filter and his last game and you'll see why.

I also think that now is a good time to push this. I see no reason to wait.

MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes were my tone reads that don't require filter dives and I'm not too worried about (I have a town tone read on WaveofShadow, but I'm more worried about him than the other two). Plus, there's been some discussion about MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes recently.[/QUOTE]
Hopeless didn't even post yet. How could you possibly have any kind of read on him?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 17:41 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 17:37 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, do you find that post funny at all?[/QUOTE]
If you cannot see that this is never a serious post I question not only your alignment but also your sanity.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 18:05 justanothertownie wrote:
##Vote: Trfel[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 18:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Adding to the things I already DID say about Trfel:

He clearly isn't reading and/or understanding my posts and comes to completely incorrect conclusions which alone is not a scumtell but he is pretty strongly indicating that he thinks I am mafia as a result of it.
But he is too afraid to vote me. He votes the no post guy instead.

He is not addressing the posts I made about him or CC directly but instead dismissing them entirely giving really weak reasoning for disagreeing with them.

FOR EXAMPLE: He said I cannot say that CCs posts are too clean if I disagree with some of his reads. Well if he was actually willing to try and analyse the posts I made about CC he would have noticed that I am primarily talking about CCs read on myself. Yet that is something Trfel completely ignores in his whole analysis.[/QUOTE]
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 12:35 GMT
#1111
ok someone else fucked up formatting so that is not on me
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 12:37 GMT
#1113
On August 27 2015 21:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 21:26 rsoultin wrote:
lol i hesitate

cause fuck wave

he can fool me and has

but really it seemed to me like he got suspicious of moosy early for moosy relying on others (which i actually don't find that strange in anyone, especially new players, but i get the paranoia) and has been kinda...tunneled...on him since? i think wave's wrong but i don't know that that makes him scum?

ksc mind quoting the stuff jat actually did? like i remember the stuff on truffle to some extent but i remember it from vivax i think maybe? i'm pretty sure it was vivax


stuff on wave

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.

You're sweet.
I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep.

I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read.

Cool. So what is decent about the read?


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.

????????????
What is this shit?


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:05 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.

You're sweet.
I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep.

I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read.


what is it that is good about it?

I got some feels about it a little early on because I'm used to JAT being a fun-killer as town and wasn't getting any of that, and he was fairly forgettable early as well when he has no problem inserting himself into stuff. The fact that Palmar when ham super early makes it more difficult for ME to get a better read on him, but also the fact that Palmar is going ham on him so early is a good sign based on my recent experiences with town Palmar, so I am absolutely fine sheeping here. Certainly doesn't hurt that marv agrees and is 99.9% town.

Where does marv agree? This is the most bullshit read on me I ever saw btw.


stuff on trefl

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:
Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no?

Don't really have time to filter dive right now.

I want to lynch Hopeless1der.

##vote Hopeless1der

Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.

Explanation please.

Why Hopeless?

Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 08:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:
Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no?

Don't really have time to filter dive right now.

I want to lynch Hopeless1der.

##vote Hopeless1der

Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.

Explanation please.

Why Hopeless?

Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?
Because I think that Hopeless1der has a fair chance of being mafia, and it's not something I need to read a lot of filters or think super critically about. Look at his filter and his last game and you'll see why.

I also think that now is a good time to push this. I see no reason to wait.

MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes were my tone reads that don't require filter dives and I'm not too worried about (I have a town tone read on WaveofShadow, but I'm more worried about him than the other two). Plus, there's been some discussion about MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes recently.

Hopeless didn't even post yet. How could you possibly have any kind of read on him?


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:37 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, do you find that post funny at all?

If you cannot see that this is never a serious post I question not only your alignment but also your sanity.


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 18:05 justanothertownie wrote:
##Vote: Trfel


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 18:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Adding to the things I already DID say about Trfel:

He clearly isn't reading and/or understanding my posts and comes to completely incorrect conclusions which alone is not a scumtell but he is pretty strongly indicating that he thinks I am mafia as a result of it.
But he is too afraid to vote me. He votes the no post guy instead.

He is not addressing the posts I made about him or CC directly but instead dismissing them entirely giving really weak reasoning for disagreeing with them.

FOR EXAMPLE: He said I cannot say that CCs posts are too clean if I disagree with some of his reads. Well if he was actually willing to try and analyse the posts I made about CC he would have noticed that I am primarily talking about CCs read on myself. Yet that is something Trfel completely ignores in his whole analysis.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 12:51 GMT
#1115
On August 27 2015 21:50 justanothertownie wrote:
You missed a few posts and you missed my stuff on CC completely but yeah.


i thought i was doing you a favour missing that out
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 13:20 GMT
#1121
On August 27 2015 22:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't buy the CC looks too good so he must be mafia.

This is a thing. It's literally in his sig and he PLAYS around it AS mafia. Go read the QT from Nomination mafia (I think) where he mentions it several times after replacing in.


im just not going to do that
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 27 2015 13:41 GMT
#1129
On August 27 2015 22:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't buy the CC looks too good so he must be mafia.

This is a thing. It's literally in his sig and he PLAYS around it AS mafia. Go read the QT from Nomination mafia (I think) where he mentions it several times after replacing in.


im just not going to do that

What do you think about my post about CC's case? Just remove anything that says anything about "looks too good to be town" and give me your opinion.


honestly I don't really think much of it, I don't think being absolute or forceful is mafia indicative. If I say "you're mafia answer this question" it puts you under pressure and makes you respond.
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