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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:54 GMT
#2647
#Vote: Hopeless1der
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:55 GMT
#2654
If we have masons + a cop, we don't have a vig anyway.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:57 GMT
#2662
Moosy switch to hopeless please.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:01 GMT
#2682
On August 31 2015 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:
##Vote: Hopeless1der


Fucking lol
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:03 GMT
#2685
Fuck.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:05 GMT
#2699
Well the mafia QT is going to be laughing their asses off after that one
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:06 GMT
#2708
Trfel should be vigged or policy lynched no matter what.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2015 09:59 GMT
#2753
There is a very easy way to verify you are both masons together. Pick a time, and within 5 seconds of each other post both:

- The solution to a relatively complicated equation
- And the equation itself.

For example something like:


On August 31 2015 13:00 Palmar wrote:
23


On August 31 2015 13:00 Trfel wrote:
((127 * 6) + 12 - 567) / (3 + (12/2))
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 01 2015 19:50 GMT
#2969
So today has been interesting to say the least.

It seems impossible for Vivax to be town. He would almost have to be a jailkeeper, and JAT just seems like an unlikely target either for a RB or a protect. If he does actually flip town, then we have 2 easy lynches lined up in Trfel and Palmar. I don't see any good reason not to lynch Vivax and work from there.

##Vote: Vivax

More to follow in a bit.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:24 GMT
#3002
On September 03 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Tomorrow it's lylo if you lynch me and I am the most logical kill for mafia if you kill Kelsier, and I actually manage to stay alive if he's the roleblocker. It's NOT the most mechanical play to lynch me.


Why would mafia try to get you lynched over anyone else?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:26 GMT
#3003
What value does kelsier have that mafia would give up VE to have him not be lynched today?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:28 GMT
#3005
Hmm unless kelsier is mafia vig. That seems unlikely though.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:33 GMT
#3012
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:36 GMT
#3015
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:39 GMT
#3019
On September 03 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 03:36 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.


Ok I am veteran. I took bribes. I hoped they would shoot and RB me. And if you lynch me and there's a mafia vig which makes perfect sense with 2 masons and a veteran, and they probably also have a roleblocker, you lose the game tomorrow.


Yeah you are scum. If you took bribes you would know you could have visited JAT.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:46 GMT
#3025
On September 03 2015 03:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 03:39 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:36 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.


Ok I am veteran. I took bribes. I hoped they would shoot and RB me. And if you lynch me and there's a mafia vig which makes perfect sense with 2 masons and a veteran, and they probably also have a roleblocker, you lose the game tomorrow.


Yeah you are scum. If you took bribes you would know you could have visited JAT.


I don't believe VE's claim in the slightest. There's a 50% chance that I'm not even a wandering townie, he tracked me out of everyone (instead of say Kelsier - missing motive to track me at all) and he only claimed after I claimed blue.

The claim is purely agenda motivated.


What would be the point of tracking an almost confirmed scum player. Makes much more sense to track the scummiest player out of everyone else: you. It would be a completely logical decision.

You also claimed to not be a trackable role which is untrue, you don't know if you are wandering or not.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 22:35 GMT
#3075
Random thoughts.

Vivax post mortem:
Tried to push the lynch away from JAT onto trfel
Went after WoS for changing from a townread on CC to a scumread
Tried to push the lynch off the inactives (BF and hopeless) onto trfel.
Did not mention VE at all until today.
In general pushed trfel, palmar, CC, kelsier.

Overall reflects reasonably well on CC, Vivax seemed happy enough to have him lynched. Slight FOS on JAT for Vivax trying to lead the initial wagon away from him.



Kelsier:
No reason not to lynch him tomorrow, has all but claimed mafia at this point.

VE:
Almost certainly the last scum. Cop + Tracker + 2 masons just seems very townsided. Also this:

On September 01 2015 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team.


Vivax only claimed blue after the day post. VE could not have known Vivax was a blue when he decided to track him.

Moosy:
His play has been erratic, but his one post at the start of the game made me peg him as town.

On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.


I also had the same thing go through my head when I got my role PM. Seems unlikely that he could come up with this reaction as mafia.

JAT/CC:
In the unlikely event it does come down to lynching between these two, I'd lean towards JAT being scum over CC. Mainly due to Vivax's play as mentioned above.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 22:50 GMT
#3079
On September 03 2015 07:42 Trfel wrote:
Assuming KelsierSC is mafia (which is a safe assumption), justanothertownie is confirmed town.

Were justanothertownie mafia (with KelsierSC and Vivax), VisceraEyes would be town, meaning that Vivax roleblocked justanothertownie. I don't think mafia would roleblock themselves in a no notification game, thus justanothertownie is 100% town if KelsierSC is mafia.


Yup. A Vivax VE JAT scumteam is a small possibility however. But then VE's claim makes even less sense as he could just sit back and let KSC get lynched today.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 03 2015 21:15 GMT
#3111
On September 04 2015 06:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Since I am the obvious kill unless mafia wants to show face by shooting a mason:

You will not even consider lynching one of the masons tomorrow. Not only are they likely town in general because of their play and how Vivax tried to lynch both of them at some point, it is also the objectively wrong play. If you lynch mafia tomorrow they become confirmed town and the game is nearly solved (this is why it is incredibly important to be right tomorrow). If you mislynch tomorrow then you can reconsider but even then I doubt they are mafia.

KSC is most likely mafia because I don't believe he is this shit as town. He would be my #1 lynch probably. VE is a likely third mafia but I am not as sure on him as I am on KSC.


Nah. they are gonna kill Palmar. Doesn't matter anyway though, this game is over.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 03 2015 21:22 GMT
#3114
On September 04 2015 06:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 06:15 deconduo wrote:
On September 04 2015 06:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Since I am the obvious kill unless mafia wants to show face by shooting a mason:

You will not even consider lynching one of the masons tomorrow. Not only are they likely town in general because of their play and how Vivax tried to lynch both of them at some point, it is also the objectively wrong play. If you lynch mafia tomorrow they become confirmed town and the game is nearly solved (this is why it is incredibly important to be right tomorrow). If you mislynch tomorrow then you can reconsider but even then I doubt they are mafia.

KSC is most likely mafia because I don't believe he is this shit as town. He would be my #1 lynch probably. VE is a likely third mafia but I am not as sure on him as I am on KSC.


Nah. they are gonna kill Palmar. Doesn't matter anyway though, this game is over.

Spoken like the hidden Godfather this town deserves.


Sure thing
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