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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 14:55 GMT
#2041
tell me exactly what this "everything" is that makes him look like mafia.

and if he's done the same a hundred times as town in games YOU HAVE PLAYED WITH HIM i will be quite unimpressed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 14:57 GMT
#2043
On August 28 2015 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:55 marvellosity wrote:
tell me exactly what this "everything" is that makes him look like mafia.

and if he's done the same a hundred times as town in games YOU HAVE PLAYED WITH HIM i will be quite unimpressed

I will let you continue this questioning first but you should really tell us afterwards why you are so sure that palmar is town.

my read on Palmar is irrelevant to this question
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 14:57 GMT
#2044
and you know very well that i always find it extremely hard to explain my townreads on Palmar, just that they are (almost) invariably correct
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 14:58 GMT
#2046
i don't think he's lock-clear, btw.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:01 GMT
#2049
alright. 2 & 3 is fair enough.

i think you know 4 is a bit silly because he will always say exactly the same about you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:01 GMT
#2051
Palmar has been showing more willingness in our recent few games together to call me town early, though.

that one is a fairly recent development.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:02 GMT
#2052
On August 29 2015 00:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
alright. 2 & 3 is fair enough.

i think you know 4 is a bit silly because he will always say exactly the same about you

But it's what I think, and you know it.

but you shouldn't think it. i don't know how you can possibly think it given how Palmar literally 100% of the time behaves towards you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:05 GMT
#2055
On August 29 2015 00:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:02 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
alright. 2 & 3 is fair enough.

i think you know 4 is a bit silly because he will always say exactly the same about you

But it's what I think, and you know it.

but you shouldn't think it. i don't know how you can possibly think it given how Palmar literally 100% of the time behaves towards you.

BUT HE SHOULDN'T I'M GOOD AT THIS GAME FAOPVOWIVNWAOIEVNANBOAIUEBNAERIOBNA


VBORAONBAROBNAONI

"I have 5 balls of different colour, red, yellow, blue, green, purple.

Regardless of which one i show him, he always says the ball is red. Always.

I showed him a blue ball this game, he said it was red.

THAT IS REALLY SUSPICIOUS"

sorry, no bueno
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:06 GMT
#2057
On August 29 2015 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like and so is he, so it's an act regardless of his alignment. I guess it becomes: WHEN did he do that? He'd been calling me a lynch candidate before that point, at what point did he flip to saying I'm bad town? I guess that's what I should be looking at.

*grumblegrumble*

^ a reasonable approach

<3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:06 GMT
#2058
On August 29 2015 00:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:05 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:02 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
alright. 2 & 3 is fair enough.

i think you know 4 is a bit silly because he will always say exactly the same about you

But it's what I think, and you know it.

but you shouldn't think it. i don't know how you can possibly think it given how Palmar literally 100% of the time behaves towards you.

BUT HE SHOULDN'T I'M GOOD AT THIS GAME FAOPVOWIVNWAOIEVNANBOAIUEBNAERIOBNA


VBORAONBAROBNAONI

"I have 5 balls of different colour, red, yellow, blue, green, purple.

Regardless of which one i show him, he always says the ball is red. Always.

I showed him a blue ball this game, he said it was red.

THAT IS REALLY SUSPICIOUS"

sorry, no bueno

Yeah, that's a really bad analogy.

I guess they can't all be winners.

actually it's perfect
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:10 GMT
#2060
On August 29 2015 00:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
ANYWAY, so that's why I think Palmar is mafia, in a nutshell.

NOW. Could you kindly tell me why you think I'm wrong IF you think I'm wrong?

i'll give it a go, gimme 5 minutes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:14 GMT
#2062
wow i'm actually gonna open his filter to see if i can substantiate my feelings. marv2pro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:24 GMT
#2065
On August 26 2015 19:07 Palmar wrote:
The JAT point is the most important one. JAT's opening is very different from everyone else.

On August 26 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
It was weaker than I remembered (but tbh, so is my marv townread. I just don't care all that much about calling a mafia or two town).

The idea is I'm expecting him to be a newer player (I don't remember playing with him) so I'm applying the generic "he is going to be awkward as mafia". Both the posts he made are completely non-awkward and the tone is extremely relaxed/casual.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 26 2015 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many emotes is that?
uscum?

Don't forget the punctuation rule where perfect punctuation = 100% scum.


Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.


He claimed VT

On August 26 2015 23:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 23:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like expecting me who's never played with JAT to just trust you all and go lynch him is you guys thinking wrong. If you guys are trying to make me vote for him, then you're going to have to come up with an actual case and points rather than just saying "trust me he is mafia because of what i remember, yeah".

Which is why I'm saying rsoultin saying that JAT is mafia read because he's clinging to one thing is a good point because it's not just based off of meta.


BRO

JAT is mafia because he's trying to build a case out of something that is irrelevant.

JAT is mafia because his opening was awkward and sad

JAT is mafia because he tried to dismiss me instead of argue me.

(these are very much the sort of reasons Palmar uses more as town)
On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.

I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes).


so these are all posts i think are quite a lot more likely to come from a town Palmar than a mafia Palmar.

I think I debunked your 1&4 ok, which leaves 2&3 as the reasonable points. tbh I do agree with 2, unless Palmar has some new reasons of his own to be less suspicious of jat. re:3, i prodded palmar more than once on his townread on Trfel, and it came down to him deconstructing one of your only posts. i think it's certainly a read town-palmar can make, and certainly one that he'd overplay with bias in response to his jat scumread.

tldr: there are several posts that make me think Palmar is town, his tunnel/approach to reads seems largely in line with his towngame, you may have something with the lynch-jat thing and it would be nice if he could say more smart stuff so i don't have to be worried
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:29 GMT
#2069
On August 29 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 19:07 Palmar wrote:
The JAT point is the most important one. JAT's opening is very different from everyone else.

On August 26 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
It was weaker than I remembered (but tbh, so is my marv townread. I just don't care all that much about calling a mafia or two town).

The idea is I'm expecting him to be a newer player (I don't remember playing with him) so I'm applying the generic "he is going to be awkward as mafia". Both the posts he made are completely non-awkward and the tone is extremely relaxed/casual.

On August 26 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 26 2015 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many emotes is that?
uscum?

Don't forget the punctuation rule where perfect punctuation = 100% scum.


On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.


He claimed VT

On August 26 2015 23:08 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 23:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like expecting me who's never played with JAT to just trust you all and go lynch him is you guys thinking wrong. If you guys are trying to make me vote for him, then you're going to have to come up with an actual case and points rather than just saying "trust me he is mafia because of what i remember, yeah".

Which is why I'm saying rsoultin saying that JAT is mafia read because he's clinging to one thing is a good point because it's not just based off of meta.


BRO

JAT is mafia because he's trying to build a case out of something that is irrelevant.

JAT is mafia because his opening was awkward and sad

JAT is mafia because he tried to dismiss me instead of argue me.

(these are very much the sort of reasons Palmar uses more as town)
On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.

I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes).


so these are all posts i think are quite a lot more likely to come from a town Palmar than a mafia Palmar.

I think I debunked your 1&4 ok, which leaves 2&3 as the reasonable points. tbh I do agree with 2, unless Palmar has some new reasons of his own to be less suspicious of jat. re:3, i prodded palmar more than once on his townread on Trfel, and it came down to him deconstructing one of your only posts. i think it's certainly a read town-palmar can make, and certainly one that he'd overplay with bias in response to his jat scumread.

tldr: there are several posts that make me think Palmar is town, his tunnel/approach to reads seems largely in line with his towngame, you may have something with the lynch-jat thing and it would be nice if he could say more smart stuff so i don't have to be worried

I might sheep your read and blame you if you are wrong but I don't think any of those posts is particularly towny.

you also don't have the excellent record for reading Palmar that i do, so if i think the posts are towny that means a hell of a lot more than what you think. just sayin
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:30 GMT
#2070
i mean meh, people have never understood how i read palmar

but i guess i'm gonna be wrong very occasionally, so whatever
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:32 GMT
#2073
how is any of that TMI? :d
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:33 GMT
#2076
On August 29 2015 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 19:07 Palmar wrote:
The JAT point is the most important one. JAT's opening is very different from everyone else.

On August 26 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
It was weaker than I remembered (but tbh, so is my marv townread. I just don't care all that much about calling a mafia or two town).

The idea is I'm expecting him to be a newer player (I don't remember playing with him) so I'm applying the generic "he is going to be awkward as mafia". Both the posts he made are completely non-awkward and the tone is extremely relaxed/casual.

On August 26 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 26 2015 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many emotes is that?
uscum?

Don't forget the punctuation rule where perfect punctuation = 100% scum.


On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.


He claimed VT

On August 26 2015 23:08 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 23:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like expecting me who's never played with JAT to just trust you all and go lynch him is you guys thinking wrong. If you guys are trying to make me vote for him, then you're going to have to come up with an actual case and points rather than just saying "trust me he is mafia because of what i remember, yeah".

Which is why I'm saying rsoultin saying that JAT is mafia read because he's clinging to one thing is a good point because it's not just based off of meta.


BRO

JAT is mafia because he's trying to build a case out of something that is irrelevant.

JAT is mafia because his opening was awkward and sad

JAT is mafia because he tried to dismiss me instead of argue me.

(these are very much the sort of reasons Palmar uses more as town)
On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.

I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes).


so these are all posts i think are quite a lot more likely to come from a town Palmar than a mafia Palmar.

I think I debunked your 1&4 ok, which leaves 2&3 as the reasonable points. tbh I do agree with 2, unless Palmar has some new reasons of his own to be less suspicious of jat. re:3, i prodded palmar more than once on his townread on Trfel, and it came down to him deconstructing one of your only posts. i think it's certainly a read town-palmar can make, and certainly one that he'd overplay with bias in response to his jat scumread.

tldr: there are several posts that make me think Palmar is town, his tunnel/approach to reads seems largely in line with his towngame, you may have something with the lynch-jat thing and it would be nice if he could say more smart stuff so i don't have to be worried

I might sheep your read and blame you if you are wrong but I don't think any of those posts is particularly towny.

you also don't have the excellent record for reading Palmar that i do, so if i think the posts are towny that means a hell of a lot more than what you think. just sayin

Which would explain why I said I might shep you? What's your point?

my "point" is, i don't know why you'd bother saying those posts don't look townie to you. who gives a fuck, you asked about how and why i was reading him and you've never really grasped how i do so, so what you think about them is largely irrelevant so why mention it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:34 GMT
#2077
On August 29 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
You clearly know i'm town so you just copy pasted my stuff.

Much mafia.

don't tempt me, i will happily sit by and watch you get lynched for the giggles
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:35 GMT
#2080
On August 29 2015 00:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 19:07 Palmar wrote:
The JAT point is the most important one. JAT's opening is very different from everyone else.

On August 26 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
It was weaker than I remembered (but tbh, so is my marv townread. I just don't care all that much about calling a mafia or two town).

The idea is I'm expecting him to be a newer player (I don't remember playing with him) so I'm applying the generic "he is going to be awkward as mafia". Both the posts he made are completely non-awkward and the tone is extremely relaxed/casual.

On August 26 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 26 2015 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many emotes is that?
uscum?

Don't forget the punctuation rule where perfect punctuation = 100% scum.


On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.


He claimed VT

On August 26 2015 23:08 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 23:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like expecting me who's never played with JAT to just trust you all and go lynch him is you guys thinking wrong. If you guys are trying to make me vote for him, then you're going to have to come up with an actual case and points rather than just saying "trust me he is mafia because of what i remember, yeah".

Which is why I'm saying rsoultin saying that JAT is mafia read because he's clinging to one thing is a good point because it's not just based off of meta.


BRO

JAT is mafia because he's trying to build a case out of something that is irrelevant.

JAT is mafia because his opening was awkward and sad

JAT is mafia because he tried to dismiss me instead of argue me.

(these are very much the sort of reasons Palmar uses more as town)
On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.

I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes).


so these are all posts i think are quite a lot more likely to come from a town Palmar than a mafia Palmar.

I think I debunked your 1&4 ok, which leaves 2&3 as the reasonable points. tbh I do agree with 2, unless Palmar has some new reasons of his own to be less suspicious of jat. re:3, i prodded palmar more than once on his townread on Trfel, and it came down to him deconstructing one of your only posts. i think it's certainly a read town-palmar can make, and certainly one that he'd overplay with bias in response to his jat scumread.

tldr: there are several posts that make me think Palmar is town, his tunnel/approach to reads seems largely in line with his towngame, you may have something with the lynch-jat thing and it would be nice if he could say more smart stuff so i don't have to be worried

I might sheep your read and blame you if you are wrong but I don't think any of those posts is particularly towny.

you also don't have the excellent record for reading Palmar that i do, so if i think the posts are towny that means a hell of a lot more than what you think. just sayin

Which would explain why I said I might shep you? What's your point?

my "point" is, i don't know why you'd bother saying those posts don't look townie to you. who gives a fuck, you asked about how and why i was reading him and you've never really grasped how i do so, so what you think about them is largely irrelevant so why mention it

Ok, I will stop giving my opinion on things then. But don't lynch me for not contributing.

nice strawman bro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 15:39 GMT
#2084
On August 29 2015 00:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah and VE.
VE I wanna do some teaming up with you.
Not only can we get shit done I think it will help me cement my read on you one way or another.

See this is my problem this game.

There's a massive town circlejerk that basically includes everyone (by association) except like deconduo, hopeless, Vivax

i would hope we can pick out the townie-looking scummies by picking off whichever the low hanging fruit is
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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