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On August 29 2015 01:48 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2015 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I hope we're not all waiting on me. I'm definitely not trying to re-read the game in less than twelve hours, not with my schedule anyway. I'll do so if I live through the night.
In the meantime we can talk about players like Hopeless and decon. Players who have no horse in the race as it were with regard to Palmar/Trfel.
For starters I thought the way Hopeless opened the night with "Well I'm fucked" was a little awkward in a guilty-conscience sort of way. Taken with his entrance to the tread, I think there could be a good chance of him flipping mafia. Thoughts? I moved off BF precisely because his filter did not come across as awkward at all. While obviously I had like 3 minutes to read bf and hopeless, I did not get the same feeling from hopeless' filter. It may not mean anything until I read more but still. What filter? All I got from him was the need to deliberately antagonize the people in this game. On August 27 2015 19:05 boxerfred wrote:On August 27 2015 18:59 marvellosity wrote:
off you toddle then.
boxerfred, I'm so glad you signed up for this game, your effort, dedication and wit that you've brought to this particular episode are truly a joy Yes I'm awesome. On August 28 2015 05:18 boxerfred wrote:On August 28 2015 04:34 KelsierSC wrote:On August 28 2015 04:33 boxerfred wrote:On August 28 2015 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:On August 28 2015 04:17 boxerfred wrote:
##vote justanothertownie ^ You should probably justify this soon. At this point I have produced by far the most content in this game. I received a PM that reminded me of voting, you're the wagon, have no time until tomorrow. well you're here now and you are being a fucking retard #sorrynotsorry Those don't sound like mafia posts?
Correct. They sound like "should never sign up for a game of mafia again" posts though.
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On August 29 2015 01:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 01:51 rsoultin wrote:On August 29 2015 01:48 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2015 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2015 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I hope we're not all waiting on me. I'm definitely not trying to re-read the game in less than twelve hours, not with my schedule anyway. I'll do so if I live through the night.
In the meantime we can talk about players like Hopeless and decon. Players who have no horse in the race as it were with regard to Palmar/Trfel.
For starters I thought the way Hopeless opened the night with "Well I'm fucked" was a little awkward in a guilty-conscience sort of way. Taken with his entrance to the tread, I think there could be a good chance of him flipping mafia. Thoughts? I moved off BF precisely because his filter did not come across as awkward at all. While obviously I had like 3 minutes to read bf and hopeless, I did not get the same feeling from hopeless' filter. It may not mean anything until I read more but still. What filter? All I got from him was the need to deliberately antagonize the people in this game. On August 27 2015 19:05 boxerfred wrote:On August 27 2015 18:59 marvellosity wrote:
off you toddle then.
boxerfred, I'm so glad you signed up for this game, your effort, dedication and wit that you've brought to this particular episode are truly a joy Yes I'm awesome. On August 28 2015 05:18 boxerfred wrote:On August 28 2015 04:34 KelsierSC wrote:On August 28 2015 04:33 boxerfred wrote:On August 28 2015 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:On August 28 2015 04:17 boxerfred wrote:
##vote justanothertownie ^ You should probably justify this soon. At this point I have produced by far the most content in this game. I received a PM that reminded me of voting, you're the wagon, have no time until tomorrow. well you're here now and you are being a fucking retard #sorrynotsorry Those don't sound like mafia posts? -pokes at palmar- you think jat is still scum why? His soul is black
I am sooo evil.
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On August 29 2015 02:08 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm pretty good, but I think marv has a better success rate than me, especially beyond day 1
This "Palmar is much better day1" thing is a myth. Even if you believe it yourself.
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On August 29 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 02:08 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm pretty good, but I think marv has a better success rate than me, especially beyond day 1 i would say i'm quite a few levels below peak play, and that's been recurring over the summer
You know why? Because you got lazy and I got impatient.
It used to be like this: You push someone - I sheep.
It has been like this recently: I push the lynches - you sheep.
We have been losing a lot due to this.
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On August 29 2015 02:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 02:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2015 02:08 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm pretty good, but I think marv has a better success rate than me, especially beyond day 1 i would say i'm quite a few levels below peak play, and that's been recurring over the summer You know why? Because you got lazy and I got impatient. It used to be like this: You push someone - I sheep. It has been like this recently: I push the lynches - you sheep. We have been losing a lot due to this. i'm kinda settling into the role of one of the grand old daddies of tl mafia who plays via sitting in my rocking chair with a dressing gown and a pipe (joint). in fairness i think i did have an unprecedentedly (totes a word) long stretch as a primary player, so i think i earnt it...
I disagree.
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On August 29 2015 02:30 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 02:23 Trfel wrote:
WaveofShadow, why do you think I am mafia? And yes, I'm too lazy to read your filter.
I'll go with rsoultin and VisceraEyes being town for now. More confident on VisceraEyes. Nah, you give me a read first. CC/KSC/ and if you have time do one on me, because if I remember correctly all you've had to say on me was 'I'm making no progress with WoS.' All three scum. Your turn.
:D
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On August 29 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 02:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
idk i'm tryna look at everyone in a new light and rsoul may be scum.
in that same vein, i like the way that visceraeyes has been posting. it's not the content per se, but the manner in which he does it. it's like the key to reading him similar to tictock. this still doesn't say why what do you like about his posting? what makes you think i could be scum? really moosy just saying that you like chocolate over and over but don't like vanilla isn't terribly informative
I think that analogy isn't exactly perfect.
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On August 29 2015 02:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 02:33 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2015 02:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 02:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 02:30 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2015 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 02:23 Trfel wrote:
WaveofShadow, why do you think I am mafia? And yes, I'm too lazy to read your filter.
I'll go with rsoultin and VisceraEyes being town for now. More confident on VisceraEyes. Nah, you give me a read first. CC/KSC/ and if you have time do one on me, because if I remember correctly all you've had to say on me was 'I'm making no progress with WoS.' All three scum. Your turn. Not good enough. You've solved the game and have no reasons for it? Like that actually doesn't make any sense at all. The entirety of D1 was my two scummates bussing me? Eh...maybe that's not the worst thing actually. Seems kinda dumb to me off the bat though. you're taking it a lot more seriously than i took that post Well he's clearly serious. Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 02:33 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2015 02:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 02:30 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2015 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 02:23 Trfel wrote:
WaveofShadow, why do you think I am mafia? And yes, I'm too lazy to read your filter.
I'll go with rsoultin and VisceraEyes being town for now. More confident on VisceraEyes. Nah, you give me a read first. CC/KSC/ and if you have time do one on me, because if I remember correctly all you've had to say on me was 'I'm making no progress with WoS.' All three scum. Your turn. Not good enough. You've solved the game and have no reasons for it? Process of elimination.
It's not the worst poe I ever saw.
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On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz na he never does this Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read. Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care. I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post. You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.
I actually like this post.
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Btw. and only to reiterate: If there is a vigi he shoots Hopeless tonight. He hasn't lifted a single finger since the lynch despite having the most information of all townies if he is town.
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On August 29 2015 05:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him. i did read your mega post Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game. because vivax made a stupid post That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game. i don't agree with the scum read on you Or you are mafia and know I'm town. or i have reasons to town read you, good talk Explain how Trfel and I had the best ideas about Hopeless being mafia, and that's why you were scumreading him.
uhmm?
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On August 29 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 06:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
These are all early day 1 reads, there is nothing concrete about them. I'm not saying that Rsoultin is absolutely town because she was excited at the beginning of the day. I'm not saying Palmar must be town because he townread Rsoultin early on. Jesus people, it's just how I interpreted the game early on to get a grasp on who was best to look at. If you don't like my reasoning for early reads when there are 5 pages in the game, I'm very sorry. I don't clean up my reads to look absolutely iron-clad logical from everyone's perspective. I have a unique point of view, and I may town/scum read people early for reasons that don't make complete sense to everyone. That's because I'm going with my gut as town, and gut-reads are typically just feelings. Not much else to go on early in the game.
Like, it's starting to get me angry that everyone is simultaneously scumreading me for "clean posts/TMI/to good to be town" while also stating that some of my thought processes are illogical. Those two can't go together, it's either one or the other. Because if I am adhering to my 2 yr old scum meta and having very clean posts, then I have very few flaws in my logic because I'm making up stuff that is believable. I'm town. I try to make what I'm thinking (no matter if it actually makes sense to you guys or not) visible, because I'm being truthful.
I'm clearly attempting to figure out the game through whatever avenues I can, and there is nothing more towny than that. tldr you have no explanation. gotcha my problem is gut reads or not, the read progression is odd. i don't care when people demonstrate they don't think logically, but you don't seem to have that problem
I think this is going in circles by now and only helps CC if he is mafia. His explanation for his reads is totally viable and fine. The actual problem is that he is giving all these easy townreads in the first place and not necessarily his reasoning.
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On August 29 2015 06:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 06:16 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote:On August 29 2015 06:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
These are all early day 1 reads, there is nothing concrete about them. I'm not saying that Rsoultin is absolutely town because she was excited at the beginning of the day. I'm not saying Palmar must be town because he townread Rsoultin early on. Jesus people, it's just how I interpreted the game early on to get a grasp on who was best to look at. If you don't like my reasoning for early reads when there are 5 pages in the game, I'm very sorry. I don't clean up my reads to look absolutely iron-clad logical from everyone's perspective. I have a unique point of view, and I may town/scum read people early for reasons that don't make complete sense to everyone. That's because I'm going with my gut as town, and gut-reads are typically just feelings. Not much else to go on early in the game.
Like, it's starting to get me angry that everyone is simultaneously scumreading me for "clean posts/TMI/to good to be town" while also stating that some of my thought processes are illogical. Those two can't go together, it's either one or the other. Because if I am adhering to my 2 yr old scum meta and having very clean posts, then I have very few flaws in my logic because I'm making up stuff that is believable. I'm town. I try to make what I'm thinking (no matter if it actually makes sense to you guys or not) visible, because I'm being truthful.
I'm clearly attempting to figure out the game through whatever avenues I can, and there is nothing more towny than that. tldr you have no explanation. gotcha my problem is gut reads or not, the read progression is odd. i don't care when people demonstrate they don't think logically, but you don't seem to have that problem I think this is going in circles by now and only helps CC if he is mafia. His explanation for his reads is totally viable and fine. The actual problem is that he is giving all these easy townreads in the first place and not necessarily his reasoning. Where is there no reasoning for my townreads early on? I don't necessarily believe in them any more (i.e. Palmar), I have clearly been giving my reasoning for townreading people since early on. You are actually lying.
You misread my post.
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On August 29 2015 06:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
"The actual problem is that he is giving all these easy townreads in the first place and not necessarily his reasoning"
You are literally saying that I'm giving townreads, but I'm not giving the reasoning behind them. I said in my first post of the game that Palmar was town because he townread Rsoultin, and I said that Rsoultin was town because she was excited.
No, I am literally saying that the fact that you are giving out the townreads is the problem and not your reasoning for them.
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On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
so, ye, shitty lazy rsoul reads post incoming
strong town
marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers)
town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game
palmar - too similar d1 thoughts
wave - disorganized/not his scum game
town leans
ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve
jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier
ksc - scum game is worse than this
moosy - chaotic/tone says town
poe
condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though
hopeless - could just be awful though
trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing
CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually
tldr:
condor could be town actually maybe
and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_-
Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious:
What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum?
How would you characterize Vivax scumgame?
How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame?
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On August 29 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
trfel where are your beautiful cases
^^^^
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On August 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
so, ye, shitty lazy rsoul reads post incoming
strong town
marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers)
town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game
palmar - too similar d1 thoughts
wave - disorganized/not his scum game
town leans
ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve
jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier
ksc - scum game is worse than this
moosy - chaotic/tone says town
poe
condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though
hopeless - could just be awful though
trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing
CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually
tldr:
condor could be town actually maybe
and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_- Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious: What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum? How would you characterize Vivax scumgame? How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame? - i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games - vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this) - he didn't
- I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough.
- I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least.
- If you say so.
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On August 29 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
good reads post rsoul, i liked it
I think it is funny that she arrived at the EXACT same lynchpool I created yesterday (minus boxerfred obviously).
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That wasn't meant as a shot. I legitimally think it's funny.
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