EPTTL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2 - Page 15
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On August 29 2015 06:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: These are all early day 1 reads, there is nothing concrete about them. I'm not saying that Rsoultin is absolutely town because she was excited at the beginning of the day. I'm not saying Palmar must be town because he townread Rsoultin early on. Jesus people, it's just how I interpreted the game early on to get a grasp on who was best to look at. If you don't like my reasoning for early reads when there are 5 pages in the game, I'm very sorry. I don't clean up my reads to look absolutely iron-clad logical from everyone's perspective. I have a unique point of view, and I may town/scum read people early for reasons that don't make complete sense to everyone. That's because I'm going with my gut as town, and gut-reads are typically just feelings. Not much else to go on early in the game. Like, it's starting to get me angry that everyone is simultaneously scumreading me for "clean posts/TMI/to good to be town" while also stating that some of my thought processes are illogical. Those two can't go together, it's either one or the other. Because if I am adhering to my 2 yr old scum meta and having very clean posts, then I have very few flaws in my logic because I'm making up stuff that is believable. I'm town. I try to make what I'm thinking (no matter if it actually makes sense to you guys or not) visible, because I'm being truthful. I'm clearly attempting to figure out the game through whatever avenues I can, and there is nothing more towny than that. tldr you have no explanation. gotcha my problem is gut reads or not, the read progression is odd. i don't care when people demonstrate they don't think logically, but you don't seem to have that problem | ||
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strong town marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers) town vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game palmar - too similar d1 thoughts wave - disorganized/not his scum game town leans ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier ksc - scum game is worse than this moosy - chaotic/tone says town poe condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though hopeless - could just be awful though trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually tldr: condor could be town actually maybe and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_- | ||
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i don't feel he's strongly town and...i dunnae...i can't seem to catch him in thread this game even when he was here before and that's fucking weird | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:47 Trfel wrote: Wait, you're scumreading me for exactly the reason I was worried about you??? That's really funny XD wait you're still hanging around not engaging with me??? that's really funny -_- | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote: Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious: What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum? How would you characterize Vivax scumgame? How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame? - i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games - vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this) - he didn't | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:51 Trfel wrote: I'm five pages behind. No sense discussing serious things with people when I'm five pages behind. And I don't feel like reading those five pages at this time, so deal with it. lovely coincidence boyo if you're scum you'd better shoot me ^^ | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:52 KelsierSC wrote: i mean i'm a little insulted but ok lol i don't think you can match your town play. it shouldn't be insulting. it's true of most people, including the best scum players ^^ | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote: - I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough. - I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least. - If you say so. - it's a toneread so :/ it's possible but i feel good about it - this is more than a toneread and i'd fight with people trying to lynch viva, straight up...it's partially how he does his own shit | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote: and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_- | ||
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awesome palmar play past d1 some others, too...i think CC and hopeless both had their moments of awesomeness but hey, winning is nice? ve, you played awesome, dude | ||
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On September 06 2015 09:07 WaveofShadow wrote: Is it weird that I'd be way more demoralized to play this game as scum because of palmar than marv? i don't think so? marv can be coaxed and cajoled palmar is tunnel king lol <3 | ||
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On September 06 2015 10:51 Trfel wrote: As usual, if anyone has any advice/tips for me, that would be much appreciated. Specifically, I still don't know why I was getting so many scumreads  (yes, I know I'm stupid, but I'd prefer to be slightly less stupid if possible) advice for truffle: stop undervaluing yourself it seems facetious, but it's not? like, if you have reads you believe in, maybe you're wrong maybe you're right, but the thing is you can't just let your doubts freeze you up? people throw around that 100% town 100% mafia stuff a lot but they're not actually that certain (generally) i dunnae where i was going with this o.0 oh, well, being really indecisive can come off as scummy? but it wasn't aimed at why you were scumread it was just a general comment that i've noticed with you over the past several months. you undervalue yourself and lack confidence when the only opinion you can 100% trust is coming from town (with a few exceptions, obviously) is your own | ||
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people can bash me for that the whole night phase i just...went i should reread...i should do that analysis that nets me mafia...naaaaaah can't be assed, i'll just do it during the day phase ...that worked well | ||
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On September 07 2015 23:05 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, she absolutely was. Wait let me get the quote. Right before deadline. eh...one of my (few) strengths is claims? not that y'all needed me at all for that lol >< that i was wrong is clear. the assumption that in a 48 hour period anyone would just keep their reads and never change their mind, though, is short-sighted i think -shrugs- marv and palmar were my strongest reads lol >< and palmar only because i absolutely refuse to consider until proven wrong that my town play lines up with his scum play so neatly...that would be very demoralizing | ||
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On September 08 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote: I am not saying you wouldn't have changed your mind but still - why shoot the player on the complete wrong track over those who aren't? Very strange choice to me. :/ Anyways let's keep it at that before people start saying I am bashing your play again. nh? nah i have no issue with you saying i was wrong when i was lol i'm often wrong. how else do i end up in 3-man lylo with onegu? @.@ | ||
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