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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:29 GMT
#2187
On August 29 2015 02:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:26 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin may be scum here.
Ok, this sounds good. How about you go do the work and try to prove it, and I'll evaluate once you finish?



you're still a traitor -_-
Do you disagree with any of my townreads in my post with way too many townreads?


possibly i don't remember what they were lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:30 GMT
#2194
yeah actually why don't you set it up in a way where i don't have to interpret the waffles to find the townreads?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:32 GMT
#2198
On August 29 2015 02:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
idk i'm tryna look at everyone in a new light and rsoul may be scum.

in that same vein, i like the way that visceraeyes has been posting. it's not the content per se, but the manner in which he does it. it's like the key to reading him similar to tictock.


this still doesn't say why

what do you like about his posting? what makes you think i could be scum? really moosy just saying that you like chocolate over and over but don't like vanilla isn't terribly informative
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:34 GMT
#2207
On August 29 2015 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
idk i'm tryna look at everyone in a new light and rsoul may be scum.

in that same vein, i like the way that visceraeyes has been posting. it's not the content per se, but the manner in which he does it. it's like the key to reading him similar to tictock.


this still doesn't say why

what do you like about his posting? what makes you think i could be scum? really moosy just saying that you like chocolate over and over but don't like vanilla isn't terribly informative

I think that analogy isn't exactly perfect.


mmm

no i'm actually not very vanilla
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:35 GMT
#2209
i'd care but cc is prob mafia and if he isn't i'm prob not around that long anyway so

lynch away

-rolls around the thread-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:36 GMT
#2212
On August 29 2015 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 02:34 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
idk i'm tryna look at everyone in a new light and rsoul may be scum.

in that same vein, i like the way that visceraeyes has been posting. it's not the content per se, but the manner in which he does it. it's like the key to reading him similar to tictock.


this still doesn't say why

what do you like about his posting? what makes you think i could be scum? really moosy just saying that you like chocolate over and over but don't like vanilla isn't terribly informative

I think that analogy isn't exactly perfect.


mmm

no i'm actually not very vanilla



liked my role blurb in Personality btw


<3 glad you approve
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:36 GMT
#2213
On August 29 2015 02:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 02:35 rsoultin wrote:
i'd care but cc is prob mafia and if he isn't i'm prob not around that long anyway so

lynch away

-rolls around the thread-

so ur ok w/ mr. cc lyncherino shenanigans?


i'd tell you to read my filter before making tonereads based on nothing but given no one reads my filters i'll just settle on

duh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:39 GMT
#2220
On August 29 2015 02:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:35 rsoultin wrote:
i'd care but cc is prob mafia and if he isn't i'm prob not around that long anyway so

lynch away

-rolls around the thread-

so ur ok w/ mr. cc lyncherino shenanigans?


i'd tell you to read my filter before making tonereads based on nothing but given no one reads my filters i'll just settle on

duh

no actually i knew u were up for mr. cc lyncherino stuff but i just wanted an ironclad statement from u. thx for ur participating. btw i am currently slogging thru ur filter and i can say that it is actually cancer for the eyes.


-squints at-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:41 GMT
#2226
okay i should feel bad about this but i kinda just went fuck this halfway through skimming that post, cc

tldr it please so i can continue being lazy?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#2230
ye but that wouldn't allow me to continue being lazy, marv ;o;

i'm just following my senpais' examples! \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:44 GMT
#2231
On August 29 2015 02:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
okay i should feel bad about this but i kinda just went fuck this halfway through skimming that post, cc

tldr it please so i can continue being lazy?

he wants to kill me D2, he has wave null, viscera town, vivax null i forget, and wants ksc to die from vig or decon to die from vig. i think. i kinda skimmed too.


so you saw he's missing half the game as well? cool
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:51 GMT
#2237
doesn't mean you're not scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 17:52 GMT
#2238
On August 29 2015 02:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i am thinking wave is town btw. obv i have 30% bias for him which is never good, but also because he's throwing out little posts like this which i normally don't see him do and which tone read to town. also his controversies are also NAI but in fact show townie although him sheeping palmar d1 without much thought is never good.

hm...ksc on wave and me is actually interesting there. because he says he hates inconsistencies in play and statement. can people confirm this? does he normally focus on people that just say wtf they want when they're town?


he tunneled ls so it's not outside his wheelhouse? he's logic-based -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:32 GMT
#2253
meh i should probably not be this lazy in all honesty
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:52 GMT
#2270
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.


meh

i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:55 GMT
#2274
like, essentially...and correct me if i'm wrong here

a town cc saw a player who was obvious, slamdunk (or at least as slamdunk as an early d1 can be) town, do to excitement and activity or whatever

some other player goes, damn, rsoul so townie

and town cc's reaction is to assume that what...a scum player couldn't possibly go...oh damn, rsoul is so townie i'm not gonna bother with her let's just give obvious town an obvious townread?

what?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:57 GMT
#2277
On August 29 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view.


agreed. i'd like to know your reasons for townreading cc as well, kels
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:58 GMT
#2279
On August 29 2015 05:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.


meh

i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all?


I figured mafia would not be so quick to claim that you were town. It would be pretty easy to interpret most of your posting as, so you say, shit-posting and being mafia indicative. After all, you just poked people with sticks and gave some meager reads. I read that as towny excitement. Mafia can easily skew that to be useless filler.

I don't understand what the big deal is. Palmar came up with the same tentative conclusion I did early on about your alignment. Regardless of his reasons (which seemed OK), his train of thought seemed townie because it was similar to mine.


so why didn't you see it as shit-posting?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:59 GMT
#2280
On August 29 2015 05:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view.


I liked the tone of his posting early on, i agreed with his interpretation of the push on JAT. He didn't like wave which was the same as me.
The scum read on him is partly based on a game from years ago that I wasn't in so that has no relevance at all.


eh ye okay

they're weak but my reads are fairly weak/amorphous as well
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 21:01 GMT
#2281
On August 29 2015 05:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
[quote]

Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.


meh

i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all?


I figured mafia would not be so quick to claim that you were town. It would be pretty easy to interpret most of your posting as, so you say, shit-posting and being mafia indicative. After all, you just poked people with sticks and gave some meager reads. I read that as towny excitement. Mafia can easily skew that to be useless filler.

I don't understand what the big deal is. Palmar came up with the same tentative conclusion I did early on about your alignment. Regardless of his reasons (which seemed OK), his train of thought seemed townie because it was similar to mine.


so why didn't you see it as shit-posting?


i guess what i'm getting at here is you are basically saying that you consciously saw something that could be interpreted as either excitement or shit-posting, and simultaneously avoided the "this is shit-posting" pitfall not knowing me from adam while deciding that scum would push me for that, so anyone townreading me must be town? i just...don't get this line of thinking
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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