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On August 29 2015 08:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
so...trfel. have anything on anyone else than decon? I've given a bunch of townreads and explained why. Unfortunately, people didn't seem very interested in pointing out why my townreads are weak, or specifically which ones they disagreed with.
I had been thinking that the deconduo read was the weakest one (will say why after he returns), but the cop check more than makes up for it.
I suppose my read on Vivax is a little weak, and maybe justanothertownie is this good as mafia. But I don't really think so?
I'll come up with something cool tonight, I hope. Probably won't be on that much to discuss tomorrow, will be on a lot in the evening though (when no one else is, apparently).
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On August 29 2015 10:24 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 08:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
so...trfel. have anything on anyone else than decon? I've given a bunch of townreads and explained why. Unfortunately, people didn't seem very interested in pointing out why my townreads are weak, or specifically which ones they disagreed with. I had been thinking that the deconduo read was the weakest one (will say why after he returns), but the cop check more than makes up for it. I suppose my read on Vivax is a little weak, and maybe justanothertownie is this good as mafia. But I don't really think so? I'll come up with something cool tonight, I hope. Probably won't be on that much to discuss tomorrow, will be on a lot in the evening though (when no one else is, apparently). Oh, and your post reminded me about Hopeless1der. I'm trying not to think about him until he posts again.
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Do we do the AFK vote today?
it's weekend so don't expect much from me.
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On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote:
Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred.
Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying.
Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia.
I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred.
Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first?
If hopeless flips scum (which I'm pretty sure he will) I think this post puts trfel in the towncamp. He was one of the people actually pushing for a hopeless lynch over boxer.
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I'm just gonna vote hopeless.
We're gonna do it anyway, might as well get it out of the way and solve the game tomorrow.
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On August 29 2015 20:06 Palmar wrote:
I'm just gonna vote hopeless.
We're gonna do it anyway, might as well get it out of the way and solve the game tomorrow.
This is awful. And completely true at the same time.
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On August 29 2015 20:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 20:06 Palmar wrote:
I'm just gonna vote hopeless.
We're gonna do it anyway, might as well get it out of the way and solve the game tomorrow. This is awful. And completely true at the same time.
I know it's awful.
Something in this game is broken.
Do you 100% believe marv's claim?
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Like on the surface the game state is this:
Townies
Palmar
Trfel
Deconduo
Marv
VE
Not quite scum but still....
Ksc
Moosy
CC
Scummy
Vivian
100% mafia/thug life chose him
jat
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oh and then there is hopeless, who I'm assuming we flip today.
There is something wrong, somewhere in this picture, and I just can't figure out what.
The sad part is that most of my gut instincts have been right so far (bf bad lynch, rsoultin definite town). Hell WoS was more of a null to me, but I never tried to go after him. But by definition my gut instincts CANNOT all be right, because that means the game is unsolvable.
I AM wrong somewhere, I just don't know where, and it's super frustrating.
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Looking at WoS and rsoultins reads we should be discussing CC/Trfel/Kelsier for mafia today instead of afking on hopeless like Palmar wants. They were their scumreads. Rsoultin was sort of right on decon provided that marv's check is true and correct.
Even if they were just a medic dodge it doesn't hurt to look into these three.
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On August 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
I don't know what that means at all.
I guess it makes sense if justanothertownie is scum, or if mafia wanted to kill WaveofShadow instead of justanothertownie for some reason. ? What does this has to do with me at all? Assuming everyone is town, I would think that mafia would prioritize kills as follows: marvellosity rsoultin justanothertownie WaveofShadow
Why isn't Palmar there?
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On August 29 2015 21:11 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
I don't know what that means at all.
I guess it makes sense if justanothertownie is scum, or if mafia wanted to kill WaveofShadow instead of justanothertownie for some reason. ? What does this has to do with me at all? Assuming everyone is town, I would think that mafia would prioritize kills as follows: marvellosity rsoultin justanothertownie WaveofShadow Why isn't Palmar there?
It is a very curious list anyways. Why is Wave there? Why isn't Palmar there? Why this order? Weird all around.
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On August 29 2015 20:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 20:40 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 20:06 Palmar wrote:
I'm just gonna vote hopeless.
We're gonna do it anyway, might as well get it out of the way and solve the game tomorrow. This is awful. And completely true at the same time. I know it's awful. Something in this game is broken. Do you 100% believe marv's claim?
Don't you?
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On August 29 2015 21:02 Vivax wrote:
Looking at WoS and rsoultins reads we should be discussing CC/Trfel/Kelsier for mafia today instead of afking on hopeless like Palmar wants. They were their scumreads. Rsoultin was sort of right on decon provided that marv's check is true and correct.
Even if they were just a medic dodge it doesn't hurt to look into these three.
Yes, but it doesn't really change much for me. Maybe I am less inclined to lynch Vivax and more inclined to lynch Trfel because of rsoultin. CC ispretty high on my list anyways.
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On August 27 2015 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
marvellosity
rsoultin
Palmar
Kelsier
Wave
Moosy
VE
Hopeless/BF/Vivax/deconduo
CC/jat
maybe something like this?
Previous list
actually missed Trfel off it last time, no-one seemed to notice
marvellosity
Palmar (i just think he's town tbh)
deconduo (roll with the check)
jat/moosy/ve/kelsier - I just don't know how to order these. I guess I might just have to, for the sake of ease, plump for jat being just town and not worry about it at all. But probably in one of the other 3 there is a mafia
vivax
trfel
hopeless
CC
almost annoying that rsoultin retracted her townread on trfel, was hoping that slot was gonna be a gimme
probably between the last 2 i guess. personally i wouldn't mind taking a punt and lynching CC, feels a little more ambitious. While i'd feel shitty if he were town and just genuinely playing a more straightforward game than of old, i just can't shake my feeling on him
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are you still actually quite sure jat is mafia, palmar?
does his play towards the eod d1 do nothing for you?
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Revisiting D1 I notice that the stuff around Trfel missing the sarcasm in BF's post provokes curious cause different reactions in the CC/Jat/me triad.
CC hard townreads JAT.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town. why Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.
But the same thing with Trfel left him with a "back and forth" on him, while for both me and jat it felt like it appeared to have more weight than just that.
On the other hand for me it didn't feel like that alone is a reason to TR jat. Same for him. But certainly I did find it noteworthy that we all noticed the same thing, with CC acting in the most different way.
My main point remains the way CC says "Then Palmar is mafia" without following up on it, I still can't get over that. On top of it, he said that roughly 1 hour after Palmar put Trfel into the town pile.
If I then assume CC's perspective, I see Palmar dismissing my point about Trfel, townreading him for reasons I don't know, scumreading my townread, and calling him mafia if the push is not fake.
Why not do anything about this afterwards? The followup is a big post on Wave instead when I would expect way more suspicion on Palmar given the opposing opinions and the way he said he would be mafia for pushing Jat in case he's srs.
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If palmar was sure I am mafia he would be pushing me. He is just keeping his annoying act up.
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On August 29 2015 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:
If palmar was sure I am mafia he would be pushing me. He is just keeping his annoying act up.
i kinda think so too, but if that's the case then his list is meaningless, kinda
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On August 29 2015 21:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:
If palmar was sure I am mafia he would be pushing me. He is just keeping his annoying act up. i kinda think so too, but if that's the case then his list is meaningless, kinda
Why do you think Kelsier is so town because I don't really see it?
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