On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:Now, about ObiWanShinobi.
I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.
Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.
So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.
Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^
##Nuke: Fecalfeast
He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.
Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.
1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.
And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying
Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia
And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing.
@OWS when you come back
1 - OK to nuke Chez ?
2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.
OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".
OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.
I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing.
@OWS when you come back
1 - OK to nuke Chez ?
2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.
OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".
OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.
I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.
Everybody wants to nuke the chez!
The town
The mafia
The brown?
I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.
On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing.
@OWS when you come back
1 - OK to nuke Chez ?
2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.
OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".
OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.
I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.
Everybody wants to nuke the chez!
The town
The mafia
The brown?
I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.
FF, I think that should clear me.
Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?
On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?
On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.
Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.
On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.
The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.
Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.
Yeah that's not really how information works.
On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.
On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.
On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.
On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.
On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.
The thing is: can the same be said about ff?
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.
On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.
Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?
Ask the people that want to nuke him.
On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.
Yeah.
On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.
Chez is probably still the best nuke.
On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.
On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.
Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.
And ny death puts you closer to lylo.
Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.
I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.
Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.
OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work
And here is why he did itHe nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.
TLDROWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.
Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline.
Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless.
EPT
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