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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 28 2015 20:08 GMT
#3241
On August 29 2015 04:42 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 04:35 Tictock wrote:
@Geript

I think you quoted the wrong quote or summin

The point of my post you quoted there was that both KSC and Rit had claimed roles that are potentially very bad news for Mafia, yet they elected to kill Bre.

Breshke had nuked mafia correct? Plus he was universally townread. Like that's odd but not left field. Plus, so far we've seen LT, VA/RAYN aka mia, and tube aka mia. It's not impossible they either didn't believe, didn't trust or didn't care. Plus in my experience LT has made odd NKs before in irl mafia.


wasn't breshke also green checked by confirmed cop?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:09 GMT
#3242
On August 29 2015 05:08 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 04:20 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
Ehh, I'm willing to believe FF's check on geript at this point.

geript was a good frame target, with how he acted (I think I attacked him during D2 quite a bit)
+ FF softed his role had something to do with his vote
I agree I would kill KSC before geript. If KSC flips town though I think geript is mafia
they could also be only 4 mafias maybe ? And game ends today either way


I was under the impression that a "Mafia Framer" makes a town player show up as red, while a "Mafia Cover" ability makes a mafia player show up as green. Can a Mafia Framer even be used that way to make a mafia player show up as town?


I thought you were a smurf ? Yeah in this forum all the framers I saw had both abilities.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 28 2015 20:09 GMT
#3243
On August 29 2015 05:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 04:42 geript wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:35 Tictock wrote:
@Geript

I think you quoted the wrong quote or summin

The point of my post you quoted there was that both KSC and Rit had claimed roles that are potentially very bad news for Mafia, yet they elected to kill Bre.

Breshke had nuked mafia correct? Plus he was universally townread. Like that's odd but not left field. Plus, so far we've seen LT, VA/RAYN aka mia, and tube aka mia. It's not impossible they either didn't believe, didn't trust or didn't care. Plus in my experience LT has made odd NKs before in irl mafia.


wasn't breshke also green checked by confirmed cop?

Forgot about that.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 28 2015 20:12 GMT
#3244
that nuke is really dumb. like really dumb. like this dumb:

##vote chezinu
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 28 2015 20:14 GMT
#3245

Holyflare

Godfather
Untrackable
Unwatchable
Framer

You are the ultimate scum player. The mafioso of all mafiosos. The lawyer-in-training who will get all your crooked pals to walk...for a tidy sum, of course. You can talk yourself out of anything...and talk and talk and talk. What’s a silly little red check for a player like the amazing Holyflare? Hell, you can even convince everyone that the sky is orange, water is dry and only witches can float. Grab your torch and pitchfork! If you just talk long and forcefully enough, they’ll do whatever you want. Guaranteed.

Upgrade: (hard) 8 page day 1 filter

You just beat them over the head with all that rhetoric, didn’t you? All that pull in thread really pays off.

You have unlocked...frame targets, if town, become a wanderer! If Scum, they become Untrackable and Unwatchable.


The last line suggests that Framer can frame mafia to look like town, I'm fairly certain it is possible even w/o the upgrade effect.

Also I approve of the Red Green Show gif.
I can take that responsibility.
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 28 2015 20:15 GMT
#3246
[image loading]

On August 29 2015 05:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 04:56 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:45 geript wrote:
Also people need to unvote chez immediately. Kels has something w/ his role maybe ends day early if a majority of something and I don't trust him.


I don't exactly trust him either, but what makes you think the bolded?

He seems to care about getting a bunch of votes super early. That makes me think some kind of prince of darkness power.


Could you point me to what you are referring to here?

Also, regardless of what power KSC may have, what is your read on chez? Has your mason qt been of any use?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 28 2015 20:15 GMT
#3247
day 2 is literally some of the dumbest mafia play i have ever seen if rels is mafia. you have to believe he intentionally tried to get himself lynched to save rayn.....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:15 GMT
#3248
OK I have to go super soon so I will detail what I find weird about geript.

He was wrong all game.
He was angry D2 when everyone started to play seriously.
D3 he faked a scooby doo QT with a mafia team pretending to be HTS. He said it was for funnsies; but he tried to push KSC when the rest of town was pushing LT.
D3 his only reason to push KSC over LT was the QT and the fact that the two people KSC voted died.
Never commented on Chez D4.
Start of D4 he wanted to kill ritoky:
On August 28 2015 07:59 geript wrote:
Of the claimed roles, ritoky is the most likely mafia. It's pretty rare that a mafia team doesn't have a rb.

And Damdred:
On August 28 2015 07:20 geript wrote:
I think I want to kill Damdred. Idk. But that's my feels

And now he seems to have forgotten both attacks to focus on KSC.

He claimed he didn't know what Damdred's role was:
On August 28 2015 07:59 geript wrote:
But idk what Damdred's role does supposedly so....

And that was a lie:
On August 28 2015 08:29 geript wrote:
So looking back. Damdred wins if Damdred is dead and fido alive. Idk. Meh.


I think geript is mafia and we should nuke him.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 28 2015 20:16 GMT
#3249
On August 29 2015 05:12 ritoky wrote:
that nuke is really dumb. like really dumb. like this dumb:

##vote chezinu


lol basically.
Retired.
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 28 2015 20:17 GMT
#3250
[image loading]

On August 29 2015 05:12 ritoky wrote:
that nuke is really dumb. like really dumb. like this dumb:

##vote chezinu


I'd imagine it's fake considering chezinu posted the nuke message for the mod. :p

You still voting chez if the nuke is fake?

On August 29 2015 05:14 Tictock wrote:
Also I approve of the Red Green Show gif.


Glad someone got it :D
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 28 2015 20:19 GMT
#3251
On August 29 2015 05:17 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:12 ritoky wrote:
that nuke is really dumb. like really dumb. like this dumb:

##vote chezinu


I'd imagine it's fake considering chezinu posted the nuke message for the mod. :p

You still voting chez if the nuke is fake?

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:14 Tictock wrote:
Also I approve of the Red Green Show gif.


Glad someone got it :D


Lol, didn't even notice it was chez's message. Yup, still voting him. He survived 4 nukes, I know he is confirmed lying about a check he got, he was outside of the mafia lynch day 2, and I am selfish and wanna be confirmed town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:20 GMT
#3252
And for fidei and TT who are still not voting Chez:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 28 2015 17:01 Rels wrote:
OK folks. Come here, sit by the fire! It's cold out there, isn't it ? Are you well now ? Then, let me tell you about the story of today.

We're lynching Chezinu.

We can talk about other things. I will be ignoring Chezinu 'cause talking to him each time has cluttered up the thread for nothing. Unless he says false things ofc.

Why are we lynching Chezinu ? Two mains reasons shows he's mafia, and a bunch of small ones shows he's not town.

1. The nuke theory: LT fake nuked Chezinu D2 to gain town cred when Chez flipped
Go read it, it's there:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

2. Chezinu claimed he got a check on a dead player; FF claimed he didn't get a check on a dead player; FF was town
That's it. Chezinu claimed to get a 3P check on dead yamato. But please remember the context to know WHY Chezinu claimed that:
Chezinu counterclaimed FF "no result" claim on Lord Tolkien. He tried to deflect the lynch from LT to FF.
That's a play only a mafia (not even a town-enemy 3P) would do.

3. Bunch of small reasons that shows he's not town
- Chezinu claimed not-town EOD3
- Chezinu's check was counter claimed by ritoky's roleblock claim
- Chezinu had Lord Tolkien as green in his "I'm serious now" list post; when asked about it, he said it was to fool the mafia and he actually thought LT was green
- Chezinu *knew* FF was lying from his point of view, but never pushed him hard. Instead, he pushed me hard back when I attacked him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- Chezinu *knows* ritoky is lying from his point of view, but doesn't push him hard. Instead, he pushes me hard back when I attack him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- His wincon "I don't know my wincon" doesn't make sense
- His upgrade check doesn't make sense with his wincon; why a check would be useful with a wincon like that
- He faked wanting LT to be modkilled EOD3

Conclusion
All of the small reasons makes Chezinu not-town. The two main ones makes him mafia.
So please: LYNCH HIM AND IGNORE HIM. Let's talk about something else while he finally dies.

geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 28 2015 20:20 GMT
#3253
Rels-annoying little git
Fidei86--???
geript--mason (wos, yam, damdy, chez)
Damdred--3P semi-cult
JudgeJudy--
ObiWanShinobi
Ritoky--RB (hts, someone, damdred)
Tictock--can summon armageddon)
Chezinu
KelsierSC--vig (shot me, ...)

We need to fill out this list fully, period.

My currently leanings are KSC: claimed to have shot me which is really fucking odd if he's town, has super odd voting record that he lied about, didn't tell the truth to save a real cop in FF. IMO that's 3 strikes. I'm sure there's more reasons, but I don't see a way we can get away from lynching him at some point preferrably today.

Damdred: It's hard for me to believe that mafia would rolecheck a claimed 3P. Plus, it's pretty great cover as mafia. I think if Damdred would die, then fido maybe dies instead. IDK. Either way, what he was pushing in thread was different than what he was agreeing with/pushing in QT. Basically, I don't trust him.

OWS: Looking for "permission" to use the nuke is pretty odd. Especially when he ends up using it on Chez who's like easy to nuke.

JJ: Somewhat understandable nuke. But mostly afk. But decent voting record. Probably town.

Rels: Being an annoying little shit. He's probably town but I really don't care. I will lynch him for it.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 28 2015 20:23 GMT
#3254
for exactsies:

rb -> hts, chez, damdred
shot -> yamato (n2 upgrade)
nuked -> chez (n2 given to me, shot down by chez)
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:24 GMT
#3255
geript still not commenting on Chez being mafia. But he things I'm town. If I'm town then I've been right two times already: rayn, LT. Not counting tube since I wasn't the main guy pushing him. So you should at least read the case, then vote accordingly.

Vote Chez and nuke geript is the best plan.

Alright see you all tomorrow (=
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 28 2015 20:26 GMT
#3256
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 28 2015 20:28 GMT
#3257
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.


do you know all of the people who have "green checked" you this game? and if any of them still are true? i forgot, but i remember there being a lot.

damdred said something he did to you made you conf town, but has since rescinded
ksc claimed a green on you? since rescinded.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:29 GMT
#3258
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.

So chez is town?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:30 GMT
#3259
On August 29 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.


do you know all of the people who have "green checked" you this game? and if any of them still are true? i forgot, but i remember there being a lot.

damdred said something he did to you made you conf town, but has since rescinded
ksc claimed a green on you? since rescinded.

Ff checked geript green n2. The night tube (framer) flipped through.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:30 GMT
#3260
On August 29 2015 05:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.


do you know all of the people who have "green checked" you this game? and if any of them still are true? i forgot, but i remember there being a lot.

damdred said something he did to you made you conf town, but has since rescinded
ksc claimed a green on you? since rescinded.

Ff checked geript green n2. The night tube (framer) flipped through.

There is nothing else.
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