Also, fwiw, I agree about not revealing bomb location. It prevents town from wifoming themselves and prevents mafia from killing multiple townies. Like there's a reason why people shouldn't be asking for the bomb locations.

geript

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September 01 2015 04:16 GMT

#3842

I guess I'm not 100% confirmed because I guess there could be 5 mafia + traitor + jester + 3P (survivor); but that's at least 7.5 anti-town roles in a 21 person game. That's a huge amount. I think 4 mafia + traitor makes more sense, but it is a themed so i guess anything goes.

geript

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September 01 2015 05:13 GMT

#3853

I'm just curious. But like none of us have take a look at fido at all. Is that just because the watcher claim?

geript

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September 01 2015 15:23 GMT

#3886

On September 02 2015 00:06 Damdred wrote:
Also we know that geript didn't claim his power was a day time power until today I believe so that's difficult. But ritoky isn't lying there I think

Not true. I've referred to choosing to mason with Wave. Which was D1 which would require me to be a day mason. Additionally, if you were paying attention in our QT, I told you I was a day mason. It's m19 btw where I was thinking that maybe people who were masoned with me were dying during the night; which I can't know if I'm not a day mason.

geript

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September 01 2015 16:50 GMT

#3895

There's not a clear stylistic town v scum. But I've had to read from my phone which makes it harder. But there are a number of things from his scum game which is similar. It's hard to explain. But I think it's. Tr

geript

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September 01 2015 17:44 GMT

#3904

@jJ part of it is how his townplay in previous games I would classify as rudimentary. Like in XIII I think it was he was scum reading Rayn for being too aggressive. Basically a lot of his reads when he's town come almost primarily from types of reads you see from newer players. But this game his reads are far more sophisticated. Like instead of being only partly right post D2, he's solely been picking the 'right' wagons. His posts are kinda generic instead of pretty heavily opinionated; which is more similar to his scum game. Plus, it looks very much like he's realized he can Poe-wise allow both ritoky and I to be confirmed town; but still shifts towards other targets while keeping ritoky open as that stance becomes untenable. Like there's no one sure fire thing. It's just a bunch of little stuff.

geript

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September 01 2015 18:02 GMT

#3905

Original Message From geript:
Town Student X
Town Student XII
Town XIII

Holy guardians Scum

Links n stuff if you wanna look

geript

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September 01 2015 19:09 GMT

#3911

There are a variety of reasons why I don't expect the TT meta to be definitive. Part of it was my limited ability to cross reference his posts in relation to the day; part of it is that I didn't notice an obvious set of town traits that aren't mimicable. Part of it is that his posting has shown similarities to both his town play and his scum play from things I've noticed; part of it is that his town play has seemed to change at least slightly between each game.

JJ you could be right on TT; and maybe even right on ritoky. A point in your favor there is that ritoky's RB choices are pretty goddamn awful (HTS, Chez, Me, Damdred). It's just that I don't think that JJ is as set in stone town as you think he is. There's a variety of things that are decent hints that he's mafia. The meta points are by no means rock solid and I haven't sold them as such, but overall I don't think they favor him. Players don't improve that vastly over a handful of games when the improvement in the newbie games was relatively slow. That's a really important point.

geript

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September 01 2015 19:57 GMT

#3922

On September 02 2015 04:19 JudgeJudy wrote:
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That point is really important though. As a town roleblocker, you've got an incredibly powerful role, you're essentially a cop plus a medic because you can block the mafia kp and then when the kp never shows up, you can lynch the guy you blocked.

He is roleblocking the towny HTS, the claimed survivor who almost certainly isn't carrying out the mafia kp, and yourself, the guy who already has a green check on him. Like the only good claimed rb was chez. He thought you of all people was the guy most likely to carry out the mafia kp last night?

All today he attacks me for arguing against the "99%" confirmed town, yet here he is roleblocking another "99%" confirmed town to try to stop the mafia kp. There is a reason he has to do this though. He already claimed rb so he has to claim targeting someone, yet he can't block someone like me, obi or TT because that would mean his lynch pool is reduced by one each time he confirms another player. Doesn't this make sense to you?

It's not a point I've forgotten, but I don't think it's right to lynch him today. Like there's a greater than 0% chance that he's town. In the least the greencheck affords him a 25% chance of being town at worst. Plus, it's not like mafia aren't essentially forced to NK him if the RB can hit them. Right now I think there's 7 people. He can't RB me, or Fido, or Damdred. That leaves him 3 people he can claim an rb on. Like he's only got a win condition if he has a partner still alive. If he's mafia, we can only lose if Damdred isn't a survivor.

Strategically, he's just a very bad lynch today and maybe tomorrow too.

geript

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September 01 2015 19:58 GMT

#3923

Do your bomb(s) go off you get lynched JJ?

geript

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September 01 2015 20:17 GMT

#3931

TBH, I'm not a huge fan of Fidei. I just don't feel like I have a specific reason to townread him other than his claim and the rayn switch. I feel like maybe I should have more and maybe I'm just being lazy.

geript

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September 01 2015 20:18 GMT

#3933

No but, JJ has a point about LT's role being a bit odd (untrackable) if kp is factional.

geript

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September 01 2015 21:00 GMT

#3950

N2 same night as me.

geript

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September 01 2015 21:45 GMT

#3977

Once on the internet, I said I had a 12 inch penis that was as thick as a beer can.

geript

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September 01 2015 21:53 GMT

#3985

Here's the low down. People should've claimed there roles like D3 when I asked for them. Definitely on D4. Because that type of shit tends to solve games pretty quickly surprisingly.

geript

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September 01 2015 21:56 GMT

#3991

Also claim you're actions. b/c you're about to die.

geript

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September 01 2015 21:58 GMT

#3993

Literally 0 reason to lynch ritoky today if you're a vote controller (i forget what it's called). 100% will lynch you tomorrow.

geript

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