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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 16:51 GMT
#3633
7 v 1 v 1
Kel dies somehow flips town
Nightkill
5 v 1 v 1
Mislynch
4 v 1 v 1
Nk
3 v 1 v 1
Mislynch
2 v 1 v 1
Nk
Lylo
1 v 1 v 1

Two Mislynch till Lylo, I'm obviously town siding but yeah.

Hopefully rit rb someone other than me to confirm others if he is town. Though if there are two scum (unlikely)

6 v 2 v 1
Kel somehow town
Nk
4 v 2 v 1
Mislynch somehow
3 v 2 v 1
Nk
Mylo

This is extremely unlikely though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 16:55 GMT
#3634
On August 31 2015 01:48 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...


Well chez received his mason power on n2 from his upgrade so we know he couldn't have used that power on n1. ritoky claims to have roleblocked him on n2 so if he is town, we know he couldn't have used that power on n2. That leaves three scenarios where chez could have came in contact with the scum team.

1) chez successfully checked a scum on n3 and they became masons.
2) Ritoky did not roleblock chez on n2, they came in contact on night two, and ritoky claimed the roleblock after learning chez was the traitor.
3) geript used his mason power with chez and they connected that way.

I don't think scenario 3 makes a ton of sense because even if geript were mafia, that would mean he would need to claim mafia to chez at a point where he didn't necessarily know chez's alignment. I don't think that's worth the risk.

Scenario two is possible, but lying when there isn't a huge deal to gain at that point also doesn't seem worth the risk.

I think scenario one is almost a certainty. Nobody claimed that they received a mason quicktopic from chezinu. Here are the scenarios that I could come up with:

1) chez chose never to use his role
2) chez used his role on a player that died night three and the mason was never initiated
3) chez masoned damdred and damdred chose not to reveal things because he has no reason to
4) chez masoned a mafia player, made contact and the mason was never claimed

I'm going to eliminate 1 and 2 right off the bat because they don't make a ton of sense. I can't eliminate 3, but if chez is looking for mafia players, he likely doesn't think the third party claimer is mafia. Perhaps he wanted to gain information regarding whether damdred was a non-survivor role, but he never passed that information on to mafia prior to his death in the thread if they weren't in contact otherwise.

That leaves scenario 4, which I think is the most likely. He contacted mafia on night three since a town player would have claimed it.

That leaves two things to look into:
1) Did anyone suddenly change their opinion of chezinu between night three and day four?
2) How did chezinu figure out who to check? LT would have been dead before night three, so that means he would have had to target a mafia that we don't know about. That leads me to believe it's probably one of the more obvious individuals like KSC or obi, but when I have a chance I'll see if there are any hints that might suggest that chezinu knows more than he should.


Actually I've been,thinking... mafia really might of role cop me with lt before he died because they were super worried I was a cult leader. Which could point yo multiple people..
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 16:57 GMT
#3635
Also it's sorta impossible for rit to fake rb chez since rit is claiming to shoot yamato also so not sure there.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 17:43 GMT
#3639
On August 31 2015 02:00 JudgeJudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
On August 31 2015 01:48 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

On August 31 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...


Well chez received his mason power on n2 from his upgrade so we know he couldn't have used that power on n1. ritoky claims to have roleblocked him on n2 so if he is town, we know he couldn't have used that power on n2. That leaves three scenarios where chez could have came in contact with the scum team.

1) chez successfully checked a scum on n3 and they became masons.
2) Ritoky did not roleblock chez on n2, they came in contact on night two, and ritoky claimed the roleblock after learning chez was the traitor.
3) geript used his mason power with chez and they connected that way.

I don't think scenario 3 makes a ton of sense because even if geript were mafia, that would mean he would need to claim mafia to chez at a point where he didn't necessarily know chez's alignment. I don't think that's worth the risk.

Scenario two is possible, but lying when there isn't a huge deal to gain at that point also doesn't seem worth the risk.

I think scenario one is almost a certainty. Nobody claimed that they received a mason quicktopic from chezinu. Here are the scenarios that I could come up with:

1) chez chose never to use his role
2) chez used his role on a player that died night three and the mason was never initiated
3) chez masoned damdred and damdred chose not to reveal things because he has no reason to
4) chez masoned a mafia player, made contact and the mason was never claimed

I'm going to eliminate 1 and 2 right off the bat because they don't make a ton of sense. I can't eliminate 3, but if chez is looking for mafia players, he likely doesn't think the third party claimer is mafia. Perhaps he wanted to gain information regarding whether damdred was a non-survivor role, but he never passed that information on to mafia prior to his death in the thread if they weren't in contact otherwise.

That leaves scenario 4, which I think is the most likely. He contacted mafia on night three since a town player would have claimed it.

That leaves two things to look into:
1) Did anyone suddenly change their opinion of chezinu between night three and day four?
2) How did chezinu figure out who to check? LT would have been dead before night three, so that means he would have had to target a mafia that we don't know about. That leads me to believe it's probably one of the more obvious individuals like KSC or obi, but when I have a chance I'll see if there are any hints that might suggest that chezinu knows more than he should.


Actually I've been,thinking... mafia really might of role cop me with lt before he died because they were super worried I was a cult leader. Which could point yo multiple people..


[image loading]

Huh, so did you receive a mason qt with chez or not?


Nah only geript mason me this game.

But lt claims to have checked me, role cop maybe scum team was worried I was cult. Was all I was saying
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 17:44 GMT
#3640
On August 31 2015 02:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Also it's sorta impossible for rit to fake rb chez since rit is claiming to shoot yamato also so not sure there.


I don't understand this bit. Elaborate?
Can he not do both or something?


Chez rb the person he masons with.

I'm not sure how rb works out if both are mafia rb(?) But I'm pretty sure that rits shot would be blocked if he was fake claiming a th and was mason with chez.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 17:46 GMT
#3641
Oh wait I misread the role. He cops not rb so could of faked it then
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 18:59 GMT
#3644
On August 31 2015 03:45 Rels wrote:
Mm maybe ritoky is confirmed town.

Don't have the time to expand right now, will try to post something before deadline


I think likely town is possible in fact likely but I'd like to hear why confirmed
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 19:05 GMT
#3645
To expand on my point which might be a bit wifom,

The chez nuke etc is wifom because of the traitor aspect of the role. As well as who he rb when except mei think him rb me actually is more town oriented.

I believe lt did role cop me the night before and they would know I'm survivor and don't need to be rb. And what's the point of lying about a th in case town still has a tracker or watcher at that point (this part is wifom) there is a bit of doubt because fid got rb the same,night.

Secondly he shot and claimed the shot on yamato. I think there is town and some mafia motivation but more town. Yamato was a next day lynch I think or a good town nuke target the next day.

As scum I think rit would of shot someone like jj or a higher volume town player who was pretty towny instead of helping shrink,the Poe more.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 20:18 GMT
#3647
I meant to say that as well there was no reason rit should claim as scum it gave no town cred or confirmed him being themed so yeah town points and points for obi points it out
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 20:26 GMT
#3650
Its more than likely rels tbh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 20:34 GMT
#3656
The only reason I think it's rels is he claims red check on chez and,he flipped red.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 22:47 GMT
#3666
Are you sure you visited TT fid?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 23:26 GMT
#3681
Ok so, I'll save my comments for ksc post game when he can respond.

JJ what did you do last night?

Also TT I doubt is scum I don't think I see scum TT hard bussing rayn and bring the heat when he did. Though it's possible

Rit and geript are towny to me at this point

Pretty sure fid is town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 31 2015 00:16 GMT
#3685
On August 31 2015 09:11 Tictock wrote:
Shit, well least I know I had a solid read on KSC most of the game.

Ok, so based on what we now know regarding the day 2 lynch I find it super unlikely that there was any mafia on the rayn lynch.

JJ effectively preserved the wagon when KSC and rels switched off rayn and has been pretty towny all game.

I could probably tinfoil damdred and fidei being the last 2 mafia alive, but... Meh. Only paranoid thoughts and the notion that Damdred is totally willing to buss keep this thought alive, by and large these 2 have been contributing and helping to push the game forward.

So this leaves:
Obi
Rit
Geript

Now whats odd is that both geript and rit have had greenchecks on them, but something tells me that Obi flipping will not end the game. Rels was also fairly adiment about rit being mafia even though he said he had a green check on him.

I wonder why that is...

Personally I feel like I want to look at Rit and geript in greater depth today.

Also, what do we think... 2 mafia left or 1 ?

If theres 2 left I have a hard time seeing anyone on a team with Obi.


This post gives me a gut reaction of TT is scum...

Totally illogical that hi could,'ve scum since rels confirmed me third party.

Also the whole,thing about obi flipping won't end,the game feels a bit tmi also.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 31 2015 02:08 GMT
#3708
Rit its pretty obvious I'm survivor and I'm town siding at this point. Or else the game would be over at this point.

so why lynch me or even think it.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 31 2015 02:50 GMT
#3719
One thing that does bother me is that there haven't been a lot of rb claims if they had a factional power.

Like its possible but tha means on one night they could have 3 rb who,h might be diving into the setup a bit much.

However IF this was so I'm not sure what the play here was with geript confirming another person town by blocking what is perceived as a useless power by geript himself to an extent. Unless you think both rit and geript are town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 31 2015 02:50 GMT
#3720
I mean are scum together
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 31 2015 02:51 GMT
#3721
Its also really wifom what I said a bit to and I realize that but would be a bit odd a factional rb and a lot less instances of being rb etc
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 31 2015 03:02 GMT
#3727
Well that wasn't my main point but as far as I know almost nobody besides fid and geript have been rb
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 31 2015 03:56 GMT
#3732
Geript qt with me so we can see if you were rb?

Though why was it not a night action...
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