On August 31 2015 01:48 JudgeJudy wrote:![[image loading]](http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lolplo2WBV1qjr3m1o1_500.gif)
On August 31 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...
Well chez received his mason power on n2 from his upgrade so we know he couldn't have used that power on n1. ritoky claims to have roleblocked him on n2 so if he is town, we know he couldn't have used that power on n2. That leaves three scenarios where chez could have came in contact with the scum team.
1) chez successfully checked a scum on n3 and they became masons.
2) Ritoky did not roleblock chez on n2, they came in contact on night two, and ritoky claimed the roleblock after learning chez was the traitor.
3) geript used his mason power with chez and they connected that way.
I don't think scenario 3 makes a ton of sense because even if geript were mafia, that would mean he would need to claim mafia to chez at a point where he didn't necessarily know chez's alignment. I don't think that's worth the risk.
Scenario two is possible, but lying when there isn't a huge deal to gain at that point also doesn't seem worth the risk.
I think scenario one is almost a certainty. Nobody claimed that they received a mason quicktopic from chezinu. Here are the scenarios that I could come up with:
1) chez chose never to use his role
2) chez used his role on a player that died night three and the mason was never initiated
3) chez masoned damdred and damdred chose not to reveal things because he has no reason to
4) chez masoned a mafia player, made contact and the mason was never claimed
I'm going to eliminate 1 and 2 right off the bat because they don't make a ton of sense. I can't eliminate 3, but if chez is looking for mafia players, he likely doesn't think the third party claimer is mafia. Perhaps he wanted to gain information regarding whether damdred was a non-survivor role, but he never passed that information on to mafia prior to his death in the thread if they weren't in contact otherwise.
That leaves scenario 4, which I think is the most likely. He contacted mafia on night three since a town player would have claimed it.
That leaves two things to look into:
1) Did anyone suddenly change their opinion of chezinu between night three and day four?
2) How did chezinu figure out who to check? LT would have been dead before night three, so that means he would have had to target a mafia that we don't know about. That leads me to believe it's probably one of the more obvious individuals like KSC or obi, but when I have a chance I'll see if there are any hints that might suggest that chezinu knows more than he should.
Actually I've been,thinking... mafia really might of role cop me with lt before he died because they were super worried I was a cult leader. Which could point yo multiple people..