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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 13:29 GMT
#1084
which i recognize is awfully ironic considering i was scumreading him for not playing the game the way i thought he should, but yeah, i don't really get how these old players play -_- clearly
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 13:35 GMT
#1085
so anyway, i'll answer questions, but i want to look at the vote/read progressions and i'll have a better idea of where i'm at afterwards lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 13:46 GMT
#1089
On August 13 2015 22:38 Vivax wrote:
Alone the fact that your heuristic turned out to be whether he has reads or not based on what Damdred said makes your decision look pretty bad tbh.

So who are you scumreading now rso?

What about VE being tempted by that something you wrote


ye well, i don't know how to read hopeless as either alignment. i thought rayn had a way; he didn't. at least not in any way that he could explain. it was as simple as scumread over null read, and as i said when i changed votes, i didn't mind a hopeless lynch? i just preferred condor or prp...later just condor

it's not exactly the rocket science y'all are making it out to be lol ><

and chez is almost definitely scum regardless of hopeless' alignment, btw

he spends all day pushing truffle, having no other reads that i can discern, and then voting with truffle on condor

as for ve, why should it surprise me that he wants to vote condor with me when he wanted to vote condor before? why should it surprise anyone? it doesn't make him town, but it certainly doesn't make him scum, either @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 13:49 GMT
#1090
On August 13 2015 22:43 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 22:25 prplhz wrote:
eh why did you want to lynch me yesterday rso? or like why did you suggest me and decon and not someone else instead?


you don't play much as scum. the more you posted the less sure i became on that read lol ><

and as for condor, i just thought the way he stayed glued to the mechanics discussion was scummy? especially since his only push was just someone not playing the game the way he thought they should be @.@

so we good now or you still wanna lynch me?

what's your read on palmar?


you're probably town given your posting (not your behavior lol ><) and i have no clue how anyone has a read on palmar. his read on damdy is awful @.@ for such a "great" tonereader, when damdy is one of the easiest players on the site to toneread (not to read, mind you) i find it mind-boggling he thinks damdy is scum

if hopeless is scum...it's more likely he's town probably but i have to review the votes and see if he could still be scum with chez? probably not
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 13:56 GMT
#1094
On August 13 2015 22:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 22:46 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 22:38 Vivax wrote:
Alone the fact that your heuristic turned out to be whether he has reads or not based on what Damdred said makes your decision look pretty bad tbh.

So who are you scumreading now rso?

What about VE being tempted by that something you wrote


ye well, i don't know how to read hopeless as either alignment. i thought rayn had a way; he didn't. at least not in any way that he could explain. it was as simple as scumread over null read, and as i said when i changed votes, i didn't mind a hopeless lynch? i just preferred condor or prp...later just condor

it's not exactly the rocket science y'all are making it out to be lol ><

and chez is almost definitely scum regardless of hopeless' alignment, btw

he spends all day pushing truffle, having no other reads that i can discern, and then voting with truffle on condor

as for ve, why should it surprise me that he wants to vote condor with me when he wanted to vote condor before? why should it surprise anyone? it doesn't make him town, but it certainly doesn't make him scum, either @.@


I figured now that hopeless posted reads, you'd actually have a reason to scumread him?

I don't see what other argument has been brought up for him being mafia that could have convinced you to vote for him early in the day other than him not having reads.

Then you see that he can have reads as mafia and put him down the priority list.
Now that he actually posted reads, you're back to null or what?

It just doesn't make sense to me how you don't even try to consider him for scum any more after what you said yesterday.


let me make this simple for you vivax

hopeless always looks scummy to me. yes he had reads later. yes damdy demonstrated that not having reads at the beginning is nai

therefore

he

was

a

null

read

what don't you get?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 13:58 GMT
#1095
On August 13 2015 22:55 prplhz wrote:
just because i post more than you think i would as scum? you should go check up on me in i can't believe it's still not themed mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486819-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-themed-mafia?user=prplhz where i actually tried to post as scum (and actually managed to win a game for once)

i don't care at all for your chez scum read btw seriously chez does weird shit all the time and sometimes he plays and sometimes he don't and you haven't a clue how to read him and if you base all your reads around a scum read on him that's not very good

what's your read on palmar? seems like you haven't a clue how anybody has a read on him while saying that his sole contribution so far is mind boggling (in a bad way). rayn seems to have a rather strong read on him, what you make of that?


rayn either can read palmar better than me (not surprising, honestly) or he's just wrong again?

and i don't care if you care for my chez read or not. bite me. town doesn't play that way

btw it's not about how much you post, prp
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:00 GMT
#1096
ye i can't read palmar when he's not playing

i can barely read him when he is. i was back and forth on him so much in down under it was ridiculous -_- though tbf he was tunneling me the whole time for another shit toneread so that doesn't make it any easier to read him here lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:07 GMT
#1102
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:09 GMT
#1104
On August 13 2015 23:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


Yeah rso has a preference for low hanging fruit this game.

Except now she doesn't try to pick hopeless based on something Damdred said.

Checking hopeless games properly without using the given lense would have revealed to her that hopeless just plays differently across games, and it seems too gullible/unbelievable to me she would use such a simple heuristic to make her decision.

Can't get rid of the feeling she put hopeless into her scumreads for convenience, and removed him from them for convenience.


okay so all of you think chez is town? why? ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:09 GMT
#1105
On August 13 2015 23:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp


I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument?


that wasn't your only read, now was it, dumbass?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:12 GMT
#1107
On August 13 2015 23:11 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp

have you never played with chez before or something


just once in ippo, i think

so basically you're saying there's no possible way to read chez, ever? the same way you people told me there's no way to read slam? lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:14 GMT
#1108
tell me how even chez can only have one read all game and then sheeps that scumread onto a wagon when the votes are that close?

what, is he clinically retarded? plays with a magic 8 ball?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:15 GMT
#1109
maybe he does black magic and reads chicken intestines! \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:17 GMT
#1111
>> if that's the case someone should probably tell him that his divination isn't working so well

any more stupid y'all would like to throw my way when i'm trying to review the game? i'm just on the edge of my seat with excitement, really
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:18 GMT
#1112
On August 13 2015 23:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:11 prplhz wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp

have you never played with chez before or something


just once in ippo, i think

so basically you're saying there's no possible way to read chez, ever? the same way you people told me there's no way to read slam? lol ><

i'm saying it's very difficult to read chez and him changing his opinion doesn't justify a clear scum read. it doesn't justify anything.

+ Show Spoiler +
can you read slam?


-_- not perfectly, but better than most, prp
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:20 GMT
#1114
On August 13 2015 23:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:08 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp


I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument?


that wasn't your only read, now was it, dumbass?


Okay, and what about VE?

Only read Trfel, votes with him based on what you said.

Yet you feel more comfortable going after Chez, I can figure out why you're blind on the Viscera eye.


i'll review VE

but i'm pretty sure you're already wrong because i'm pretty sure he was scumreading condor so maybe you should review your facts, ye?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:22 GMT
#1115
On August 12 2015 13:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo I changed my mind.

##Unvote
##Vote: deconduo


His read on me was way out of left field, based on a throwaway comment in my opening post. It would have been fine if left at that, but he actually goes on to try and defend his laughable reasoning. He's mafia.


yeah

review your facts, viva -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:28 GMT
#1117
On August 13 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm not reviewing anything, I think VE is mafia and you are mafia, you can split hairs all you want but making your argument used on somebody like Chez so narrow and then deflecting the accusation that other people have been doing the same with some little deviations from what Chez did, who has the benefit of being chez, is ridiculous.

So far all you've been pushing are literal lynch baits. VE's switch to hopeless didn't even make sense at all considering the post you quoted.


okay, viva

you're so correct, viva

scum is always the most prominent (what ve what?) players, viva

i never play by poe at all, viva

you're just the best player in existence, viva

no need to ever check yourself or actually make sure what you think is really correct, viva

-hands viva the king of town crown-

someone like chez? if you can show me chez pulling this shit as town then i'll let it go. i'm sorry that i don't buy he's completely worthless as a player ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:32 GMT
#1118
btw, you may want to review the definition of "low-hanging fruit"

chez is about as "low-hanging fruit" as palmar is

see you later, scrubs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 18:37 GMT
#1199
On August 14 2015 02:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2015 02:12 ruXxar wrote:
On August 14 2015 02:05 Damdred wrote:
At the time it was prp or trfel for odd votes at that moment I made that pretty clear when RS asked me around lynch.

I probably would of consolidated on hopeless if we had the numbers though at eod.

And no clue I made that clear but it was either a straight bus or town I didn't know which shrug


What incentive would mafia have to bus in that situation when town rayn is on the other train.
There is none.

I see 0 reason to bus here.

You would've voted for hopeless you say but you were actively opposing his lynch.


Don't be obtuse rux its quite possible two people are pushing two mafia and mafia have to de IDE which one is better to keep for a night it happens all the time. So a bus is possible in that situation

And I never called hopeless town during the day just that he was a better big shot than he was a lynch so we could get other information.

But given the last few minutes of information a hopeless lynch would of been fine but myself and RS couldn't seit h or we would of no lynched I believe.


this

i saw what he was talking about, but we weren't enough to lynch hopeless and frankly i wasn't sold on that lynch anyway?

also @ rayn

if that wasn't what you were saying you should have corrected me ages ago. maybe the twenty fucking something times i asked you to clarify? but noooo you'd rather scream and get mad at me and tell me to fuck off -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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