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On August 08 2015 03:37 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. This post is also an extremely flagrant attempt to discredit what my original post said completely. At no point did I not know what to think. I was having an external monologue to display what I thought about the Ruxxar and iGroK predicament and to display my cursory attempts at a brief read through of the thread (It is not, as Rels said, "A post that took a long time to think of").
Then there is this post: + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 07:38 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying
i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? I never mentioned that mafia could not do those things, that is a fallacy that I pointed out from YOUR own thinking here: Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Your post is extremely poignant to this situation because: A) You use this argument for your own defence. B) You then use this same logical fallacy to paint my posting in a negative light to your own benefit. Your second point is extremely incongruous with what a town thought process should be. In most cases people that are using your own reads and acknowledging those points are not their own are overwhelmingly likely to be town. Furthermore, in no instance have you EVER elaborated (still after my repeated questioning) why I am your top scum read. Your second point references my qualm but instead of stating why you actually think I am mafia you try and bypass the whole quesion, yet again. You state that mafia "can" bus but how does this relate to why I am mafia in the slightest? You also state that I must be intelligent because of X, Y, Z but then ask me entirely redundant questions which, if you were town, would absolutely know would lead nowhere but a circular argument. What do you expect me to answer because it would be more than simple to just find where you mention "cheerleading" and "coaching" and just reference those points to appease you. If you are going to say that your mafia read is in that post where you mention my "uncertainty" can you show me where exactly I am uncertain of anything in the slightest? That is also, just like Raynpelikoneet, a gross misrepresentation of my post. I thought they were both capable of being mafia and any uncertainty was purely to hedge bets and vote for the "most" mafiaesque player.
To close this piece, I think what you have been doing (I'm not particularly sure you have actually done anything) is leading the town nowhere when normally I think you would be much more forward in getting scum reads out of the active people instead of falling back to a Yamato and myself scum team read, ESPECIALLY when you have TL+ and have access to filters. I think you are likely mafia too.
excuse you
i have actual fucking reads and original thoughts. you do not. we're not comparable, and trying to intimate that we are is ludicrous
wham bam thank you ma'am
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On August 08 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup. Is this the case? I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia. But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on. he follows up on it later somewhere
edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter
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Yamatto i go by facts but ok, fair enough with your answer, i voted you yesterday because you were like "omg im going to post tons" but you didn't gave shit nor posted at all, and rayn said you hate to be mafia and you avoid posting when you rol that.
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On August 08 2015 03:40 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup. Is this the case? I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia. But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on. he follows up on it later somewhere edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter
no i mean rels expands on the case somewhere
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On August 08 2015 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Yamatto i go by facts but ok, fair enough with your answer, i voted you yesterday because you were like "omg im going to post tons" but you didn't gave shit nor posted at all, and rayn said you hate to be mafia and you avoid posting when you rol that.
Well I'm not avoiding posting, so...?
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On August 08 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:37 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. This post is also an extremely flagrant attempt to discredit what my original post said completely. At no point did I not know what to think. I was having an external monologue to display what I thought about the Ruxxar and iGroK predicament and to display my cursory attempts at a brief read through of the thread (It is not, as Rels said, "A post that took a long time to think of").
Then there is this post: + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 07:38 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying
i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? I never mentioned that mafia could not do those things, that is a fallacy that I pointed out from YOUR own thinking here: On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Your post is extremely poignant to this situation because: A) You use this argument for your own defence. B) You then use this same logical fallacy to paint my posting in a negative light to your own benefit. Your second point is extremely incongruous with what a town thought process should be. In most cases people that are using your own reads and acknowledging those points are not their own are overwhelmingly likely to be town. Furthermore, in no instance have you EVER elaborated (still after my repeated questioning) why I am your top scum read. Your second point references my qualm but instead of stating why you actually think I am mafia you try and bypass the whole quesion, yet again. You state that mafia "can" bus but how does this relate to why I am mafia in the slightest? You also state that I must be intelligent because of X, Y, Z but then ask me entirely redundant questions which, if you were town, would absolutely know would lead nowhere but a circular argument. What do you expect me to answer because it would be more than simple to just find where you mention "cheerleading" and "coaching" and just reference those points to appease you. If you are going to say that your mafia read is in that post where you mention my "uncertainty" can you show me where exactly I am uncertain of anything in the slightest? That is also, just like Raynpelikoneet, a gross misrepresentation of my post. I thought they were both capable of being mafia and any uncertainty was purely to hedge bets and vote for the "most" mafiaesque player.
To close this piece, I think what you have been doing (I'm not particularly sure you have actually done anything) is leading the town nowhere when normally I think you would be much more forward in getting scum reads out of the active people instead of falling back to a Yamato and myself scum team read, ESPECIALLY when you have TL+ and have access to filters. I think you are likely mafia too. excuse you i have actual fucking reads and original thoughts. you do not. we're not comparable, and trying to intimate that we are is ludicrous wham bam thank you ma'am -drops mic-
When did I mention that we were comparable in this post?
I hold you to the metric that you display in a multitude of games and I feel that you are not achieving this metric, especially with this advantage that you have. Yes, you have reads but does that answer anything I wrote in my post at all? No, it does not.
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On August 08 2015 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Yamatto i go by facts but ok, fair enough with your answer, i voted you yesterday because you were like "omg im going to post tons" but you didn't gave shit nor posted at all, and rayn said you hate to be mafia and you avoid posting when you rol that.
tbf
we did start watching a movie right after he said that and he maaaaay have been drunk and i maaaay have distracted him for a bit >> lol
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On August 08 2015 03:40 CopCake wrote:
Ruxxar
who is mafia, according you?
I grok + Yamato + 1
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On August 08 2015 03:41 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:40 yamato77 wrote:On August 08 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup. Is this the case? I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia. But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on. he follows up on it later somewhere edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter no i mean rels expands on the case somewhere
Does it say anything different from what I understand here?
I mean, there's no way to make a meta-evaluation of edgar because he's a smurf. Based on his play he's entirely lynchable given his single-minded focus and poor reaction to pressure.
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On August 08 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Yamatto i go by facts but ok, fair enough with your answer, i voted you yesterday because you were like "omg im going to post tons" but you didn't gave shit nor posted at all, and rayn said you hate to be mafia and you avoid posting when you rol that. tbf we did start watching a movie right after he said that and he maaaaay have been drunk and i maaaay have distracted him for a bit >> lol
Just date already for fuck's sake :p
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I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him.
Can somebody explain why they think otherwise?
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Ok with that I feel better about domo arigato mr yamatto
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On August 08 2015 03:42 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote:On August 08 2015 03:37 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. This post is also an extremely flagrant attempt to discredit what my original post said completely. At no point did I not know what to think. I was having an external monologue to display what I thought about the Ruxxar and iGroK predicament and to display my cursory attempts at a brief read through of the thread (It is not, as Rels said, "A post that took a long time to think of").
Then there is this post: + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 07:38 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying
i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? I never mentioned that mafia could not do those things, that is a fallacy that I pointed out from YOUR own thinking here: On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Your post is extremely poignant to this situation because: A) You use this argument for your own defence. B) You then use this same logical fallacy to paint my posting in a negative light to your own benefit. Your second point is extremely incongruous with what a town thought process should be. In most cases people that are using your own reads and acknowledging those points are not their own are overwhelmingly likely to be town. Furthermore, in no instance have you EVER elaborated (still after my repeated questioning) why I am your top scum read. Your second point references my qualm but instead of stating why you actually think I am mafia you try and bypass the whole quesion, yet again. You state that mafia "can" bus but how does this relate to why I am mafia in the slightest? You also state that I must be intelligent because of X, Y, Z but then ask me entirely redundant questions which, if you were town, would absolutely know would lead nowhere but a circular argument. What do you expect me to answer because it would be more than simple to just find where you mention "cheerleading" and "coaching" and just reference those points to appease you. If you are going to say that your mafia read is in that post where you mention my "uncertainty" can you show me where exactly I am uncertain of anything in the slightest? That is also, just like Raynpelikoneet, a gross misrepresentation of my post. I thought they were both capable of being mafia and any uncertainty was purely to hedge bets and vote for the "most" mafiaesque player.
To close this piece, I think what you have been doing (I'm not particularly sure you have actually done anything) is leading the town nowhere when normally I think you would be much more forward in getting scum reads out of the active people instead of falling back to a Yamato and myself scum team read, ESPECIALLY when you have TL+ and have access to filters. I think you are likely mafia too. excuse you i have actual fucking reads and original thoughts. you do not. we're not comparable, and trying to intimate that we are is ludicrous wham bam thank you ma'am -drops mic- When did I mention that we were comparable in this post? I hold you to the metric that you display in a multitude of games and I feel that you are not achieving this metric, especially with this advantage that you have. Yes, you have reads but does that answer anything I wrote in my post at all? No, it does not.
seriously?
my scumread is you don't have any reads of your own
you tried to say it was because you were sheeping others' reads. there is a world of difference between having similar reads, even sheeping them, and flatout doing nothing BUT sheeping others' reads. we're not comparable
and the other bit is just shit
if i read someone mafia i pursue it. doesn't fucking matter how "active" they are
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On August 08 2015 03:43 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:41 KelsierSC wrote:On August 08 2015 03:40 yamato77 wrote:On August 08 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup. Is this the case? I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia. But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on. he follows up on it later somewhere edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter no i mean rels expands on the case somewhere Does it say anything different from what I understand here? I mean, there's no way to make a meta-evaluation of edgar because he's a smurf. Based on his play he's entirely lynchable given his single-minded focus and poor reaction to pressure.
This is the case with elgar's response
On August 08 2015 03:08 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 16:43 Rels wrote:It doesn't make sense. 1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummyOn August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing 2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynchEdgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch: On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote: On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions 3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynchAnd now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch: On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you [rsoul] were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon.
So he believes at the same time:- ruxxar is scummy - ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch - rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch This guy is mafia. This is exactly what my first post says and what I think, yes. Every game that I have seen Ruxxar in he was quite happy to bus his team anyway and so I simply did not discount that they could be both mafia together since independently they were scummy.
Basically I want to hear more from EAP that isn't a fight with rsoultin.
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On August 08 2015 03:44 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him.
Can somebody explain why they think otherwise?
So now you follow up with an explanation of the kelsier read.
I will say, he seems rather disconnected with the thread currently.
You say your general impression of him is that he has a "drive"? Could you elaborate?
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On August 08 2015 03:44 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him.
Can somebody explain why they think otherwise?
i forgot what i forgot, please remind me
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On August 08 2015 03:47 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:44 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him.
Can somebody explain why they think otherwise? So now you follow up with an explanation of the kelsier read. I will say, he seems rather disconnected with the thread currently. You say your general impression of him is that he has a "drive"? Could you elaborate?
Quite simply I am used to him making cases, making a lot of posts that probe into everything and also trying to get to the bottom of things as town.
Here I have seen random defences of people, only stances when other people make posts and a lack of drive.
Like I said, aloof.
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On August 08 2015 03:46 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:43 yamato77 wrote:On August 08 2015 03:41 KelsierSC wrote:On August 08 2015 03:40 yamato77 wrote:On August 08 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup. Is this the case? I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia. But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on. he follows up on it later somewhere edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter no i mean rels expands on the case somewhere Does it say anything different from what I understand here? I mean, there's no way to make a meta-evaluation of edgar because he's a smurf. Based on his play he's entirely lynchable given his single-minded focus and poor reaction to pressure. This is the case with elgar's response Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:08 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 16:43 Rels wrote:It doesn't make sense. 1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummyOn August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing 2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynchEdgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch: On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote: On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions 3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynchAnd now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch: On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you [rsoul] were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon.
So he believes at the same time:- ruxxar is scummy - ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch - rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch This guy is mafia. This is exactly what my first post says and what I think, yes. Every game that I have seen Ruxxar in he was quite happy to bus his team anyway and so I simply did not discount that they could be both mafia together since independently they were scummy. Basically I want to hear more from EAP that isn't a fight with rsoultin.
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Edgar give other reads besides rsoiltin.
What do you think of Yamato?
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