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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 17:51 GMT
#1081
On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:
I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.

Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible


well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain.

rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town?



lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP

this question is silly, though

ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol ><

damdy!whisperer


This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.


I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/

the activity fixation is real

you can't be serious?


i can actually

he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum

the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little

capice, rayn?

@ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all

let me be lazy ;o;


This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order.


I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot.

Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him.

He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.

Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.

Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.

I'm trying to understand ruxxar

I don't like how Kelsier aproach me


Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn.

Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice.


1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin?

2) what's your opinion of eddgar?

3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 17:53 GMT
#1082
Also a tip for you yamato.

Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 07 2015 17:56 GMT
#1083
On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:
I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret.

On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.

Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible


well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain.

rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town?



lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP

this question is silly, though

ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol ><

damdy!whisperer


This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read.

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.


I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however.

On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/

the activity fixation is real

you can't be serious?


i can actually

he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum

the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little

capice, rayn?

@ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all

let me be lazy ;o;


This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment.

On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order.


I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot.

Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him.

He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok.

On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.

Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.

Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.

I'm trying to understand ruxxar

I don't like how Kelsier aproach me


Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn.

Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice.


1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin?

2) what's your opinion of eddgar?

3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense.

My joke with tina was before the game started.

I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear.
Writer@WriterYamato
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 17:56 GMT
#1084
On August 08 2015 02:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:33 ruXxar wrote:
Rels, you should come to norway sometime.
I need to practice my french with someone :D

I'll teach you the french touch too. Sexy as fuck accent


mmmmmmm.... c'est mon plaisir. tu êtes un sexy beast *rawr* <3
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 07 2015 17:57 GMT
#1085
On August 08 2015 02:53 ruXxar wrote:
Also a tip for you yamato.

Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down.

If I don't think he's mafia, then...?

It's like you think I have to find the other guy scummy.

What if I want to lynch you?
Writer@WriterYamato
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 17:58 GMT
#1086
On August 08 2015 02:56 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:
On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:
I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret.

On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.

Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible


well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain.

rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town?



lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP

this question is silly, though

ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol ><

damdy!whisperer


This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read.

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.


I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however.

On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/

the activity fixation is real

you can't be serious?


i can actually

he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum

the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little

capice, rayn?

@ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all

let me be lazy ;o;


This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment.

On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order.


I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot.

Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him.

He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok.

On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.

Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.

Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.

I'm trying to understand ruxxar

I don't like how Kelsier aproach me


Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn.

Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice.


1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin?

2) what's your opinion of eddgar?

3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense.

My joke with tina was before the game started.

I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear.


1) Nope.

2) Well you better get to reading eddgar cuz you're running out of time.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 07 2015 17:59 GMT
#1087
Hrmmm, what if I don't want to lynch Yamato now. This d1 is hard.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 17:59 GMT
#1088
On August 08 2015 02:57 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:53 ruXxar wrote:
Also a tip for you yamato.

Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down.

If I don't think he's mafia, then...?

It's like you think I have to find the other guy scummy.

What if I want to lynch you?


Then you're fucked since I'm town.

K, so basically you're scum confirming that eddgar is town. GJ, now I feel better.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 07 2015 18:00 GMT
#1089
So I've skimmed iGrok's filter, and I find it quite easy to explain.

1) He has a plan of how to play mountainous. I would expect him to. As mafia I doubt he comes up with this plan and follows through.

2) He finds tina quite scummy because of his metric of "active-lurking", and then gets into a tunnel when she calls him mafia. I don't agree with his read of her but it's fairly easy to see how he gets there.

3) He attacks ruxxar for horrible posts. Thus far I'm in agreement about this as well. Will read ruxxar's fitler next and show the horrible posts about which I speak.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 07 2015 18:02 GMT
#1090
On August 08 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:56 yamato77 wrote:
On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:
On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:
I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret.

On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.

Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible


well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain.

rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town?



lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP

this question is silly, though

ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol ><

damdy!whisperer


This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read.

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.


I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however.

On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/

the activity fixation is real

you can't be serious?


i can actually

he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum

the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little

capice, rayn?

@ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all

let me be lazy ;o;


This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment.

On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order.


I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot.

Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him.

He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok.

On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.

Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.

Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.

I'm trying to understand ruxxar

I don't like how Kelsier aproach me


Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn.

Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice.


1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin?

2) what's your opinion of eddgar?

3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense.

My joke with tina was before the game started.

I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear.


1) Nope.

2) Well you better get to reading eddgar cuz you're running out of time.

HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE JOKE I HAD WITH TINA? SHE POSTED ABOUT IT? I WONDER HOW SHE KNOWS I MADE A JOKE?! MAYBE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT PREGAME?

Literally wtf.
Writer@WriterYamato
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 18:02 GMT
#1091
On August 08 2015 03:00 yamato77 wrote:
So I've skimmed iGrok's filter, and I find it quite easy to explain.

1) He has a plan of how to play mountainous. I would expect him to. As mafia I doubt he comes up with this plan and follows through.

2) He finds tina quite scummy because of his metric of "active-lurking", and then gets into a tunnel when she calls him mafia. I don't agree with his read of her but it's fairly easy to see how he gets there.

3) He attacks ruxxar for horrible posts. Thus far I'm in agreement about this as well. Will read ruxxar's fitler next and show the horrible posts about which I speak.


Read eddgar and give me your opinion.

Give it to me raw, straight and pure. If you confirm him town I'm lynching you today 100%.

I'm not going to lynch outside of igrok, yamato and eddgar today. No fucking way.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 07 2015 18:02 GMT
#1092
On August 08 2015 02:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:57 yamato77 wrote:
On August 08 2015 02:53 ruXxar wrote:
Also a tip for you yamato.

Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down.

If I don't think he's mafia, then...?

It's like you think I have to find the other guy scummy.

What if I want to lynch you?


Then you're fucked since I'm town.

K, so basically you're scum confirming that eddgar is town. GJ, now I feel better.


I see that responding to you is becoming less and less fruitful

will cease communication.
Writer@WriterYamato
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 18:03 GMT
#1093
On August 08 2015 03:02 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote:
On August 08 2015 02:56 yamato77 wrote:
On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:
On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:
I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret.

On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.

Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible


well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain.

rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town?



lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP

this question is silly, though

ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol ><

damdy!whisperer


This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read.

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.


I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however.

On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/

the activity fixation is real

you can't be serious?


i can actually

he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum

the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little

capice, rayn?

@ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all

let me be lazy ;o;


This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment.

On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order.


I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot.

Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him.

He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok.

On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.

Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.

Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.

I'm trying to understand ruxxar

I don't like how Kelsier aproach me


Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn.

Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice.


1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin?

2) what's your opinion of eddgar?

3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense.

My joke with tina was before the game started.

I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear.


1) Nope.

2) Well you better get to reading eddgar cuz you're running out of time.

HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE JOKE I HAD WITH TINA? SHE POSTED ABOUT IT? I WONDER HOW SHE KNOWS I MADE A JOKE?! MAYBE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT PREGAME?

Literally wtf.


Yeah that pregame joke excuse really helps when you voted for her over 20 hours into the game. GJ!!!!

Fake that rage my friend. It serves you well.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 07 2015 18:04 GMT
#1094
I'd rather see what Yamato has to say first honestly
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 18:04 GMT
#1095
Hahaha i feel like onegu saying "fake rage" LOL
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 07 2015 18:05 GMT
#1096
So Yamato is this bouts of inactivity for grok usual for him?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 18:05 GMT
#1097
On August 08 2015 03:04 Damdred wrote:
I'd rather see what Yamato has to say first honestly


I do too, but I'm not voting outside of edgar, igrok and yamato todat and that's a fact.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 07 2015 18:06 GMT
#1098
On August 08 2015 03:05 Damdred wrote:
So Yamato is this bouts of inactivity for grok usual for him?


Grok went afk after I slam dunked him with evidence.
Serves him well for trying to bury me with lies.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:07 GMT
#1099
I still think scott is a really good lynch

scummy behaviour, lurks, "oh my work blocked TL i can play after the day is finished."

Zerg for Life
EdgarAllanPoE
Profile Joined July 2015
37 Posts
August 07 2015 18:08 GMT
#1100
On August 07 2015 16:43 Rels wrote:
It doesn't make sense.

1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummy
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On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing


2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynch
Edgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.


He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions


3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynch
And now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you [rsoul] were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon.


So he believes at the same time:
- ruxxar is scummy
- ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch
- rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch

This guy is mafia.



This is exactly what my first post says and what I think, yes. Every game that I have seen Ruxxar in he was quite happy to bus his team anyway and so I simply did not discount that they could be both mafia together since independently they were scummy.
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