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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:00 GMT
#881
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:01 GMT
#882
On August 07 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?

Yeah but both igrok and yamato explained why it was a joke so I don't know why you're still attached to the idea of him not joking.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:02 GMT
#883
On August 07 2015 07:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?

Yeah but both igrok and yamato explained why it was a joke so I don't know why you're still attached to the idea of him not joking.


How was it a joke? I don't understand.
Joke as in haha funny joke or what?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:02 GMT
#884
You're making sense but ... that makes no sense. Yamato said the post was satirical then he explained the reason of the post being sarcastical, I have no idea why you don't believe it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:03 GMT
#885
On August 07 2015 07:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:01 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?

Yeah but both igrok and yamato explained why it was a joke so I don't know why you're still attached to the idea of him not joking.


How was it a joke? I don't understand.
Joke as in haha funny joke or what?

It was yamato poking fun at igrok, just after igrok has warned yamato the game has started. So super NAI.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:04 GMT
#886
The only thing he did today was come in, pick a random post from igrok call it shit, but then it wasn't actually shit he was just being sarcastic for what reason?

I don't understand why he did that whole thing and i'm trying to understand.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 22:06 GMT
#887
On August 07 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

OK good.

What did you think of this post ?

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.



Not really sure what to make of this post. I want to immediately throw it into the same pile of Cake and ruxxar doing these self metas that just don't sit well with me. Like yes, meta can be used to find scum but you have to play the game, as well. This is a really big fluffy post where iGrok tells us what he thinks he does as town as scum. These always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Like obviously if you know you do xyz as scum and ABC as town, then you know enough to try and consciously change said meta.

He also reaffirms his stance on LAL.

One thing I did notice was he set that post up to say that in no way could he be scum here. We don't have 3p so he can't claim that like he would as scum. No vigi shots or medic saves to draw. He indirectly painted a scenario where there is no way he can be scum just because it's an all vanilla game and he can't do his normal scum things.

I'm not sure if that was intentional but if he's scum, that's a very interesting way to self-meta without giving away your alignment.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:06 GMT
#888
On August 07 2015 07:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:02 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:01 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?

Yeah but both igrok and yamato explained why it was a joke so I don't know why you're still attached to the idea of him not joking.


How was it a joke? I don't understand.
Joke as in haha funny joke or what?

It was yamato poking fun at igrok, just after igrok has warned yamato the game has started. So super NAI.


Ok maybe if they know each other from before it could explain it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#889
I still want yamato to explain it though since it didn't make much sense to me.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#890
On August 07 2015 03:59 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote:
meh i'm about this far away from actually taking the plunge and going tl+ just for the filters; this is a bit irritating

so i guess i'm down to who?

cake
edgar
scott
igrok
ff
yamato

yeah of those i think edgar is most likely to flip scum

i think cake is the very definition of igrok's active lurker thing and i'm still not seeing this town thing rayn's talking about
speaking of
lambs, wolves, cute dog, what? lol >< i'd forgotten that i was curious about that post, cake

it's kinda like pulling teeth trying to get reads from her

igrok is being...obstinate. i don't know if he behaves this obstinate as scum? but he's not being particularly helpful. i dunnae that i want to lynch him, but admittedly that's more crappy association with the guy voting him than based on his actual play

scott i'm just gonna ignore for now. plain null

yama...yama could be scum. he lurks as both alignments but his scum game is distinctly more lurky, plus ogi says he actually had the time last night as opposed to now where i think he's working, but i haven't actually popped into ts today and can't remember his work schedule exactly

as for ff...it's more i'm just not sure. i've seen things i liked and didn't like. he can go with scott

so to answer the rayn question (though i actually want to probe into these people more and they actually have to be here for me to do that)

edgar/yama/cake in that order are my preferred lynches

igrok could be scum or just...well yeah -_-

and scott/ff i don't have enough info on



Why am I your top mafia read when the only post that I've made in the entire game was an echo of your iGroK read 5 hours later? You said you dislike him because he wasn't posting anything and it's all cheerleading which is exactly what my post says, yet, I am your top mafia read in this game?

WTF. Is this the only thing you want to say after being AFK so long ...
I have no idea how you're going to convince me you're town now. I though you were scum for your first post. Now I really really think you're scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:14 GMT
#891
On August 07 2015 07:06 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

OK good.

What did you think of this post ?

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.



Not really sure what to make of this post. I want to immediately throw it into the same pile of Cake and ruxxar doing these self metas that just don't sit well with me. Like yes, meta can be used to find scum but you have to play the game, as well. This is a really big fluffy post where iGrok tells us what he thinks he does as town as scum. These always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Like obviously if you know you do xyz as scum and ABC as town, then you know enough to try and consciously change said meta.

He also reaffirms his stance on LAL.

One thing I did notice was he set that post up to say that in no way could he be scum here. We don't have 3p so he can't claim that like he would as scum. No vigi shots or medic saves to draw. He indirectly painted a scenario where there is no way he can be scum just because it's an all vanilla game and he can't do his normal scum things.

I'm not sure if that was intentional but if he's scum, that's a very interesting way to self-meta without giving away your alignment.

OK wanted to know if that was comparable to ruxxar / cake or no. Your remark about him setting up his meta in a way he cannot be mafia is super interesting.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:20 GMT
#892
On August 07 2015 07:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:06 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

OK good.

What did you think of this post ?

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.



Not really sure what to make of this post. I want to immediately throw it into the same pile of Cake and ruxxar doing these self metas that just don't sit well with me. Like yes, meta can be used to find scum but you have to play the game, as well. This is a really big fluffy post where iGrok tells us what he thinks he does as town as scum. These always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Like obviously if you know you do xyz as scum and ABC as town, then you know enough to try and consciously change said meta.

He also reaffirms his stance on LAL.

One thing I did notice was he set that post up to say that in no way could he be scum here. We don't have 3p so he can't claim that like he would as scum. No vigi shots or medic saves to draw. He indirectly painted a scenario where there is no way he can be scum just because it's an all vanilla game and he can't do his normal scum things.

I'm not sure if that was intentional but if he's scum, that's a very interesting way to self-meta without giving away your alignment.

OK wanted to know if that was comparable to ruxxar / cake or no. Your remark about him setting up his meta in a way he cannot be mafia is super interesting.


I think it's town indicative for shining, it's town mentality to think about the post like that.
I had some similar thoughts too.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:24 GMT
#893
On August 07 2015 05:36 Damdred wrote:
Sorry rayn I didn't mean to react that way just been at the hospital all day with my dad while,he's in surgery and got upset that's on me I'm not really offended or dislike playing with you,

Sorry =X hope that goes OK
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#894
On August 07 2015 06:08 ruXxar wrote:
To summmarize my dislike of igrok:

#1) Lynch all lurkers attitude.

#2) his push on rsoultin is just silly, reminds me of n00bkings push on rels tbh.
He voted rsoultin in in his 2nd post, and kept pushing some really silly agenda for why she's town.

He put a vote on rsoultin first thing he did, then tried to find arguments to support his votes later, instead of going the other way around.

His case on rsoul is so bad, smells like scum long way.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:42 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:21 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:16 Damdred wrote:
I'm like 89% that ruxxor is town.

Rsoultin I kinda think might be town need more time on that but I wouldn't lynch her today anyway.


igrok igrok talk to me about igrok/ksc

rayn prob town

dunnae bout scott but don't really care right now lol ><


What about myself and KSC?

What are your reasons for finding rayne town?


ye, reading is a skill ^^


Sure, lets read through your posts (man I wish I had filters). Paraphrased, emphasis is mine.

1) I will completely ignore this game until tomorrow, or at minimum a few hours
2) Gif.
3) teehee @ damdred
4) I agree that damdred is town, now I will be lazy and disappear.
5) Damdred is totally town.
6) Ruxx probably too.
7) Inside joke with ruxx
8) Fluff
9) I may vote iGrok because he's focused on activity. Now I will "engage lazy!soul mode"
10) iGrok is tunneling an arbitrary thing, which might be scummy, even though the reasoning is sound. Also fluff.
11) Ruxx, lets be townbuds. KSC, you aren't tunneling anyone yet, why not?
12) Fluff
13) More Fluff with Ruxx
14) Ruxx, you post a lot. iGrok, your lectures aren't game-relevant.
15) @Rayne, I think Ruxx is town.
16) @rayne, sarcastic non-answer as to if I'm scum
17) Lol I'm a lurker lynch me
18) igrok talk to me about you & ksc, also rayne is town.
19) Fluff
20) KSC is ignoring me
21) iGrok is mean for telling Ruxx to stop triple posting.
22) I agree with damdred that KSC is too agreeable. I don't like iGrok/KSC
23) rayne is townie because he's probing, KSC is mafia because he isn't aggro
24) @iGrok, Regard post #18, learn to read.

I'll stop here, since this is when I started reading back.



So, after posting multiple times that she is too lazy and will not be in the thread, Tina contributes nothing aside from naked reads, and when pressured by me for reasons, says "lol reading is hard". Reading isn't hard, coming up with reasons for naked reads are. There's nothing supporting your reasoning. You're fluff-posting.

As of right now, Tina is the lynch today. I don't have a read on ruxx, but even if I did, day 1 is 100% lynch lurker, and active lurkers are the worst kind.

##Vote: rsoultin

Rayne, you're my deputy, I know Ruxx is frustrating right now but that's okay, he's actually contributing things, even if they are somewhat spammy.


#3) Posted another shitty reason for why we should vote for rsoul, try to understand this one if you can:

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:43 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

Its not me being wary of anything. We're in day 1 with 0 information. RS was a 50% scumread at the time. Thats a 100% guaranteed 50%. Easily the best chance we're going to get. I'm 100% behind lynching RS today.


#4) Tried to bury me with lies

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:09 iGrok wrote:
Horrible because its false, not because its particularly illogical.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:13 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:08 iGrok wrote:
I was the leading vote (not anymore).

That's horrible logic.


Not at the point I switched.

Here's how votes went between you and edgar:

I vote IGrok
Edgar votes iGrok
Rels votes Edgar
Rayn votes Edgar
Rsoultin votes Edgar
I vote Edgar


Actually reading his filter it looks even worse than I thought.

I changed my mind, I want to vote for iGrok again.

##Vote igrok

OK that's pretty good. Especially I don't understand AT ALL what he means at #3. Plus, he said he liked the train on EAP and never switched, but he's attacking you for switching from him.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#895
On August 07 2015 07:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:06 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

OK good.

What did you think of this post ?

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.



Not really sure what to make of this post. I want to immediately throw it into the same pile of Cake and ruxxar doing these self metas that just don't sit well with me. Like yes, meta can be used to find scum but you have to play the game, as well. This is a really big fluffy post where iGrok tells us what he thinks he does as town as scum. These always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Like obviously if you know you do xyz as scum and ABC as town, then you know enough to try and consciously change said meta.

He also reaffirms his stance on LAL.

One thing I did notice was he set that post up to say that in no way could he be scum here. We don't have 3p so he can't claim that like he would as scum. No vigi shots or medic saves to draw. He indirectly painted a scenario where there is no way he can be scum just because it's an all vanilla game and he can't do his normal scum things.

I'm not sure if that was intentional but if he's scum, that's a very interesting way to self-meta without giving away your alignment.

OK wanted to know if that was comparable to ruxxar / cake or no. Your remark about him setting up his meta in a way he cannot be mafia is super interesting.


It was and is. The only difference is his post was way more elaborate and detailed which admittedly should make him look worse. But there is so much information there, especially regarding his d2 town meta, that it could be of use to town going forward, even if he's scum. Because he has now trapped himself into having to abide by his own town meta and I'm kind of curious to see if this "burial" analysis on d2-3 he claims he will do is going to be genuine or contrived.

When there are players like yamato who roll scum and quit games(not saying he's completely done this here yet but he's borderline for me) and drive by, non-contributive scummy posters like Edgar and huge question marks like Scott, things like this take a bit of a backseat.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:34 GMT
#896
OK going to sleep. Believing in the town!ruxxar more and more, and that makes me pretty happy. (=
Believing in mafia!igrok more and more too. Never changed his vote all game even though rsoul cannot be classified as active lurker now, even though he thought EAP was scummy, even though he pushed ruxxar when ruxxar switched.
Shining is town for me now. Don't know what to think of cake.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:37 GMT
#897
Oh and let's bring back this magical feature. igrok, this is dedicated to your LAL policy.

Useless people: A useful list toi have
edgar
yamato
scott
EdgarAllanPoE
Profile Joined July 2015
37 Posts
August 06 2015 22:38 GMT
#898
On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.


this is a general sheeple post

yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok

why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today?

you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum

how as his case bad?
what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum?

and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post

1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters
2. not going to be active



I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does.

If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read.

Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:39 GMT
#899
On August 07 2015 07:32 The Shining wrote:
When there are players like yamato who roll scum and quit games(not saying he's completely done this here yet but he's borderline for me) and drive by, non-contributive scummy posters like Edgar and huge question marks like Scott, things like this take a bit of a backseat.

100% agree. If voting was now he would not even be in my top 3 lynches.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 22:41 GMT
#900
Yo edgar. Here is why I'm voting you:

On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.

This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning.

PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post:
1 - whining about filters
2 - reads
3 - vote igrok
4 - will no be active
5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier
Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread.

PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird.

PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup.


Going to sleep now so I'll see what you have posted tomorrow.
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