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hey damdy, i think we got the wrong role pm at the start :/ join me in our qt or we could just talk about nks here so ruxx, what do you think about...hmmm rayn? rayn's always a good nk! \o/ cause it's totes brilliant to hard-align early as a scum team #epicplayz | ||
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i've invited you to several times do you disagree with my reads? do you not understand them? how am i supposed to read you if all you do is preach and try to lynch me? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:10 iGrok wrote: When I try to talk to you, you evade, usually by calling my play bad/preachy. So that's pretty much a lost cause. @Rels: I'm going back over your stuff now. i've made several overtures toward you to get you to explain what it is about my posting that you think is "fluff" your behavior toward me makes me think that you don't actually care if you're wrong give me something to read you on. explain why you're scumreading me in a way that actually makes sense to me, because i know that my posting isn't fluff. i can't understand your perspective if you never attempt to explain it stop saying that it's a "lost cause" and actually engage with me what don't you understand? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wanted to leave early today so I just got home. Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go. iGrok is not mafia. First; rsoultin: Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean? Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining. third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town? first, rayn, for people who actually care and value my reads (rels, for instance) relative certainty does mean something. and the second quote means i'm about equally certain on you and ruxx being town secondly, i already responded to the shining question? i can go back and look at the specific reads, but it was a gut reaction to what he said. i liked the thought process behind the reads and i thought he could be town for them | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: And for all of the people; If you think iGrok is mafia make a fucking case and vote for him then. Otherwise let him do what he does. There is no way for rsoultin (or anyone) to defend her against iGrok unless rsoultin does shit. If iGrok still acts the same and rsoultin clearly does shit on D1 then we lynch iGrok at the EoD1. It is simple. Rgiht now you all are making him, and yourself, running in circles. right now all i want is for him to explain his read. you're going to let me do that | ||
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On August 06 2015 09:08 rsoultin wrote: interesting could come from town and, and, and SHINING!! <3 ^^ you're alive! ye now i remember lol >< i had some of the same feelings on cake when she came into the game also, he's reading damdy town for the right reasons | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: to the second part; okay so what do you find good on these reads? - a townread on Damdred, for the same reasons basically everyone else townreads him? A good read? Points towards town? - a scumread on Cake, for the reasons ruxxar should be a scumread awell. Funnily enough he apparently has read ruxxar's posts before this but for some reason this is not a reason to scumread ruxxar (they both gave examples of how they would play as mafia - in fact ruxxar overplayed it way more than Cake did. Cake was bragging, ruxxar was like "look at me how town i am because i don't do this stuff as mafia"). why is this a good read? - he literally has no other reads it's not the same reasons on damdred? and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn ye, there's a reason i'm least sure on him, but i still don't think he's the scummiest player in all honesty, i haven't been a fan of cake's play this game. i don't think she's doing anything productive either why are you townreading her? all you've said is you don't agree with people's scumreads, but i have a hard time seeing why anyone thinks she's actually town. can you explain it to me? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes it is. i am not scumreading cake because of what i just explained. cake brags, ruxxar overplays it. but Cake is town. because of moonlogic in one post. ye i must've missed it and i still can't find it -_- what is moonlogic? eh, rayn... so you think that shining can't have some sort of "this is town-motivated and this isn't therefore they're different" reason, too? cause you have it. i have it. we may not agree on which players those line up on but clearly it's possible to see these things differently when compared to how the player is playing overall i think you're a bit too quick to decide "bad" is "scummy" and i'm not even sure i completely agree with you on what actually is bad lol >< i'm not going to play like you do because it doesn't work for me why must everyone play like you do, rayn? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i have to say one thing. when i have a read, please never anymore discredit my read based on something completely irrelevant to the read. i was contesting your reasoning because it was faulty, and demonstrating how it was faulty by giving you an example of your own play. that is not discrediting. please try not to be so sensitive i have no issue with you pressuring shining | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: first of all you have no idea if my reasoning is faulty or not and i have demonstrated why this is the case. second, i have explained why MY actions are not the same. agree/disagree? i disagree? you're assuming he's not doing it for the same reasons you are and are calling him scum for it? i have no issue with you pressuring him, as i said. i don't view cases as pressure, though, and maybe that's where the disconnect is; you saying someone is scum for x,y,z looks to me fundamentally different than you actually pressing him to elaborate | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: could everyone just post a list of three mafia? ruxxar shining edgar edgar top scum anyone not on the town list you mocked i don't care if we lynch or not today. that's the purpose for the list lol >< | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: omfg. I have the exact opposite conclusion he does and you say "you're assuming he's not doing it for the same reasons you are"..... Jesus christ...  lol >< rayn. bear with me will you i'm saying you're assuming that he isn't looking at ruxxar's play and looking at cake's play and seeing the context of ruxxar's bouncy saying he thinks scum is more likely to be robotic differently than cake's...well let's be honest, blatant self-meta i see a difference between the two quite clearly so i see no problem with him not treating them the same? ruxxar's scum is stiff while demonstrably not being stiff is actually a lot closer to igrok's town should be active while demonstrably not being inactive you're looking at details and i'm looking at the overall reality that someone can find an action scummy for one person and not for another depending on the context | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: srsly i don't know why i have to make you play for some reason but you have six people in your scumlist. Let's say all the people you think are town are town. Why? Why don't you want to find mafia? Like i know you are proud of your reads like i am, do something about it and find which of the people you called scum are town then, and help us lynch mafia. i'm working on it -_- leave me alone rayn | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:57 iGrok wrote: @Rels, went back through your conversation with Rayne. Personally, TS feels like Town-Stupid to me. Ordinarily that's enough for me to be ok with lynching them, but he's mentioned enough people that, as long as he keeps posting, he's worth more alive than dead. The RX case basically makes itself. If I didn't think I'd get more information out of leaving him alive, I'd lynch him today. Those were my two takeaways, anything else you specifically wanted to know about? @rsoultin: As you apparently cannot read properly formed sentences, I'll let someone else summarize my initial case against you: Every time I pressure you, you come back to defend yourself even though you say you are too lazy/busy/afk. Only two types of players do this. Mafia and bad town. Either one is worth lynching. You're literally sheeping so hard that you're agreeing with contradictory points. this isn't explaining what your issue is and this isn't pressuring me -_- i still fail to see what the problem is. what is contradictory? | ||
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so i guess i'm down to who? cake edgar scott igrok ff yamato yeah of those i think edgar is most likely to flip scum i think cake is the very definition of igrok's active lurker thing and i'm still not seeing this town thing rayn's talking about speaking of lambs, wolves, cute dog, what? lol >< i'd forgotten that i was curious about that post, cake it's kinda like pulling teeth trying to get reads from her igrok is being...obstinate. i don't know if he behaves this obstinate as scum? but he's not being particularly helpful. i dunnae that i want to lynch him, but admittedly that's more crappy association with the guy voting him than based on his actual play scott i'm just gonna ignore for now. plain null yama...yama could be scum. he lurks as both alignments but his scum game is distinctly more lurky, plus ogi says he actually had the time last night as opposed to now where i think he's working, but i haven't actually popped into ts today and can't remember his work schedule exactly as for ff...it's more i'm just not sure. i've seen things i liked and didn't like. he can go with scott so to answer the rayn question (though i actually want to probe into these people more and they actually have to be here for me to do that) edgar/yama/cake in that order are my preferred lynches igrok could be scum or just...well yeah -_- and scott/ff i don't have enough info on | ||
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On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote: Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?" I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? | ||
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On August 07 2015 01:19 CopCake wrote: Hey rsoultin, you keep saying I am mafia and shit. Why? As in, elaborate, why am I mafia? It seems I'm going to fight you. lol i have no reason to townread you. it's not the same thing i don't recall you contributing anything this game really other than reads on the two you played with before which (i think?) you were asked for in the first place while complaining that you hadn't played with anyone else you've only played with me when you were scum and i barely had time to play anyway lol >< anyway, can you explain the lambs wolf dog thing? | ||
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On August 07 2015 01:35 CopCake wrote: Lambs = town Wolves = mafia Rsoultin = odd lamb or dog is like, you are just posting funny things, is what i meant :p you are all over the place. Also you are playing different, I guess is because you know people here and feel more comfortable? but all your posts are pro town so okay lol you can join my not lynch list for today ^^ but actually not so much for this post (i kinda figured it was a really oddly stated null read >>) but for the one you just made on igrok and the three...that and i kinda understand the approach now that you explained it yup ^^ | ||
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grok why do you not answer me -_- you're talking around me | ||
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