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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 08:28 GMT
#410
On August 06 2015 17:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:22 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That doesn't make anyone mafia.
She is not mafia for that.

You said ruxx would be scummy if he claimed to not have read the thread. Now CopCake not reading the thread is not alignment indicative ?

Because they are not the same person and ruxxar is doing that intentionally, cake is clearly not.

Makes sense. I'm not convinced though. CopCake clearly stated she (?) read the thread from the start . And she missed two posts: one from her and on from ruxxar.

well there is literally no mafia motivation to say that in case she has read the thread.
so she has genuinely missed that for some reason, which makes it NAI.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 08:31 GMT
#412
Anyways this is a game called pick your lynch. Here are the alternatives:

ruxxar - for what me, kelsier and FF have said.

Edgar - says he is at impasse but in the next sentence contradicts himself and votes for iGrok.

TheShining - says "I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced." In the next post after re-read talks about everything that is not FF or ruxxar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 08:37 GMT
#415
On August 06 2015 17:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:25 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:23 Rels wrote:
BTW I'm curious about that:
On August 06 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i have dumb reasons to think Scott is town.

What in this scott's post is town indicative ?
On August 06 2015 04:59 scott31337 wrote:
CONFTOWN AGAIN yayyy

At least I-10's has a lane or two now.

I'll be back later.


I can't tell.

OK then what is your dumb reason ?

dick move analysis. yes it's related to that post.
but i can't tell you why me read is what it is.

Bullshit. You posted to the thread you had a dumb reason to townread scott. Now you're saying you can't post it. If that's the case, it's bullshit to post you have a dumb reason in the first place.

I won't forget that rayn, so you better really have a reason and post it at some point.

yeah i do have a reason. My reason is irrelevant atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 08:39 GMT
#417
that's because i am supertown.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 08:43 GMT
#419
i can't talk about that either yet.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 08:47 GMT
#421
I can totally understand that for her on a site with no avatars.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 08:56 GMT
#422
So yeah, i am not going to talk about scott & rsoultin.

Rels is town because he is focusing on relevant stuff in the thread and making good conclusions.

FF & Kelsier are town because they are saying smart stuff. To be honest Kelsier missed that Shining thing but it's in fact an easy thing to miss, i also missed it until Rels brought up Shining's first post. If you just look at the posts individually they make a lot of sense but looking at them to together they make zero sense at all.

Damdred is town because he is actually involved in the game which he isn't as mafia. He is actually involved in talking and arguing with me which he isn't as mafia. That's why i read him town Cake, and that's why i caught him in the VS game. Granted, he was really inactive and probably didn't give any fucks because of Keirathi dropping but still, the point stands.

iGrok is probably town because mafia is voting for him.

Cake and yamato are probably town because the three other people are mafia.

Mafia is ruxxar, shining and edgar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 09:01 GMT
#424
Like it does not matter if iGrok is pushing inactives at this point. If he was mafia and some of his team was inactive he would have to call them out when the townies who are inactive start posting (which they probably will, just because mafia is more likely to be inactive). If only townies are inactive he still needs to start pushing something when the inactive townies start posting.

If he is mafia he is putting himself into a bad place and basically banking his D1 onto the fact that at least one townie is going to be inactive, which is a crapshoot in an all vanilla game, especially when i am also pushing lynch all lurkers.

He just HAS to contribute when people start posting, and it's really hard to do that when you are "behind" in the game already (as you have just pushed inactives, which isn't mafia indicative at all at this point of the game). There is literally zero reasons for iGrok to be mafia at this point because:
1) his thought process is logical
2) if he was mafia he is setting himself into a shitty position by letting the town drive the thread

so yeah, there is that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 09:03 GMT
#425
I understand this does not make him 100% town but maybe around 70%.
Definitely not mafia. People who are voting for him do not even try to understand why he is saying the stuff he is. Also they are mafia so...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 09:33 GMT
#428
Okay i actually think Shining is the best lynch today:
On August 06 2015 09:01 The Shining wrote:
I hate d1. Hate it hate it hate it. And where the hell is the filter button? I'm gonna take another break from TL and they'll get rid of preview next.

Dafuq man. How do you dive without filters? How do you guys even play without filters?!

Also this is my first all vanilla game so I was thinking of ways mechanically to hunt scum. I've got iGrok at a light town lean for wanting to go at lurkers from the start, which was one of the first things I considered. I'm not sure I agree with his RSo read, but I'm trash at treading her, and most ppl, D1. But as someone mentioned, she's threatened to go full lazy lurk mode and still hasn't. Not D1 Lynch.

I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced. "Idk I don't like ruxxar" its too noncommittal. Great, I'm not sure I like him either but I'm going to reread and figure out why I do/don't. He seems too bouncy to read clearly.


On August 06 2015 09:06 The Shining wrote:
Damdred town. Clear clear thought processes and a willingness to revisit a question/topic he already discussed because Cake asked again makes it look like he has nothing to hide.

I don't like Cop feeling it necessary to point out that he's a gem, as well as giving us his own chosen example of his scum meta. It shows he's very weary of his play, and how he looks at himself as scum, and trying to influence us in that direction instead of giving us the opportunity to do so on our own. Unless that is literally his only scumgame on this site.

He literally says he does not know that to think of FF and ruxxar.
Then he says he has to re-read and instead of doing that he goes to post about something completely different.

Like i get that his posts are 5 minutes apart, but it still doesn't make any sense he feels it's more important to to make another post onto townreads (damdred) and finding out other suspects (cake) when you already have people you suspect. He just leaves his read on FF & ruxxar onto "idk" state when the most logical thing to do is to go and figure out the reads on them.

I believe he just got timid about the fact his post was called out bad and had to post something that would be considered "good".

##unvote
##vote The Shining


ruxxar and edgar still mafia but this is my strongest scumread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 09:37 GMT
#430
It's okay we can totally have two mafia wagons.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 09:41 GMT
#432
iGrok can you comment on the actual cases in the thread?
Like i get your approach but there is no reason to actually discuss the inactives. Everyone knows what you are saying about inactives and active lurkers.

Care to take on onto what me/Rels have posted in the last couple of pages?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 09:43 GMT
#433
Also both scott and tina have posted more content than shining/edgar..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 09:56 GMT
#435
Anyways i am off for the next ten hours or so.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 11:18 GMT
#441
Ruxxar doesnt know what actively lurking means., when it's been explained at least twice in the thread. In both times related to the guy's he is voting for case...

Scummeryscum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 12:31 GMT
#448
Yeah then don't talk about ongoing games.

Damdred. Why is shining town? Full elaboration would be nice.

Also i am actully pretty sure cake is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 12:45 GMT
#450
Shining even failed to realize the game cake quoted was not on TL.
That much for reading the thread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 12:53 GMT
#451
So okay, let's not consider you town for "bad reasons" then rsoultin.
So far you have
- mocked me
- mocked iGrok
- said weird stuff.

Which of Shining's reads are good in your opinion and why?
I will help you out, he actually has one read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 13:02 GMT
#456
I am not going to work with you if you mock me. I am not gonna get visibly mad but you, as everyone, knows i will get mad when people throw shit at me. So if you are going to work with me then please do, instead of calling me shit.

You don't have an opinion on Edgar, you say the other lynch targets (Shining & Ruxxar) are town, for reasons you don't either remember or i think are not good. You want to lynch iGrok but you have no desire to tell me why what i just said about him and his motivation, and how it points more towards town than to mafia, is wrong.

Like i have no idea what you are doing!?!?!? Except for being here. iGrok's case is not bad tbh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:15 GMT
#508
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?
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