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I haven't rolled mafia in a while I'm worried
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Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?
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Barakos when you say you dislike rayn for the alibi post do you mean you just dislike it in general or you think it is scummy?
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On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny.
Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply.
So it starts with this
On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear.
The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it.
On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town.
While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted.
I think ruxxar is scum
Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia.
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On July 24 2015 10:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is this ur first game of TL Mafia.
No but im still shit
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On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.
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Moosy do you want to talk about my post you seemed to have some opinions about it.
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On July 24 2015 10:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Barakos how many games of Mafia have you played. Also if Breshke can answer this as well.
15, im still horrible.
On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.
On July 24 2015 10:24 Breshke wrote:
Moosy do you want to talk about my post you seemed to have some opinions about it.
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On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that?
I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says.
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On July 24 2015 10:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says. Why would he be "obtuse" about something he was saying ruXxar when he's asking about what I said about you? They're two separate things. Hm?
because the stuff you are saying about me has to do with my read on ruxxxar? Which you are still dodging. What was damdred onto?? What do you think about my post on ruxxar?
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On July 24 2015 10:51 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says. I think that maybe "obtuse" is not the word you meant to use here. Otherwise, this post is really strange...
Holy shit i meant vague not obtuse haha
On July 24 2015 10:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
His read on ruXxar has nothing to do with my thoughts on you. Unless you're being cautious about what exactly you wrote about ruXxar? Thanks man.
Yes it does. You siaid you thought damdred was onto something when you quoted my post about ruxxar. So therefore you were trying to say you share sentiment with damdred about my read on ruxxar. Yet you can't even explain what your sentiment is as you are still dodging the question.
Ill ask again, what do you think about my read on ruxxar?
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On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.
For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?
I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.
I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great.
That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense.
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On July 24 2015 11:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.
For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?
I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind. I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great. That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense. Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads. Oh, and since you ask: The last post that ruXxar makes is this about flip flopping. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.  On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one. If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous.. In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum. My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt. It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own. If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions. The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Then you ask this question on the same page but 5 posts later (9): Then you make your argument off the fact that ruXxar never answered your question when he clearly left since he hasn’t posted since his last post. And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) why specifically on n00bKing? Care to expand on that?
Ive played with ruxxar twice he was scum both times.
How many times have you played with him? The problem is I don't think you can because he said he activly tries to change the way he plays and damdred is right you cant change your meta but meta isnt stuff like you just explained it takes like many many games of playing with someone to really understand their meta, lazy meta reads like you just gave on ruxxar are easy to give and they are just as easy for people to fool you with because what stops ruxxar from not making a case if he is scum just to fool you?
Also i never based my read on the fact that ruxxar didnt answer my question show me specifically where you think i did. That question was posed because i was forming my read on him and it was going to help if he answered it. Then damdred asked wtf was up with my questions so i showed what i had. NOWHERE in that post do i base it off of ruxxar not responding.
Yes ruxxar didnt give a read on noobking but he had ample time to at least TRY and work it out while he was in the thread instead of doing his poetry stuff.
And it is specifically noobking because as i said in the original post ruxxar specifically said he was doing the poetry stuff to get reactions and noobking reacted to the poetry stuff and ruxxar did NOTHING with this reaction.
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##Vote Barakos
Yeah i dont believe that post was a reaction test he was just trying to get out of a bad situation. Call me stupid but i didn't even think the original post was that bad.
On July 25 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Rels i thought Mooseguy is town for this post: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That's how i tend to post sometimes. Why explai neverything when you can force people into actually thinking why are posting the stuff you do? that, and his overall eagerness to read ruxxar and carefree attitude. Anyways i had some doubts later, but i am back to thinking he is town.
The problem with this rayn is when promtpted to actually explain he dodged/didn't reply multiple times so he clearly didn't have an explanation. It then evolved into him wanting me to explain my read better. I get being ambiguous to get people to engage with you but when I and others asked him about why he posted this he had nothing.
I also don't think ruxxar is scum anymore
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But sulf explain to me why noobking is scummy
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On July 25 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:Reasoning?
His like third? post in the game was him posting an auto list.
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On July 25 2015 13:37 Tictock wrote:Breshke, old Buddie ^.^ Talk to me a bit. What do you make of Damdred? Should I accept his town read on rayn? What do you think of Moosy? Oh and of course, the card I drew for you... + Show Spoiler +
Well that depends. Do you think damdred is town? If so then maybe. But even so I would say try make your own read.
As for myself I have no idea about damdred allighnment but he was mafia lastgame and I hard townread him so I feel like it is possible that when i can't go either way on damdred it might mean he is town. That's not a read id stick to though.
I also don't care to make a read on rayn at this point because it will probably sort itself out after the lynch to be totally honest.
Moosy i think is scum. I think ruxxar had a good observation with the discrepancy with how he acted towards ruxxor compared to how he explained ruxxars play to me. The way moosey dismissed my read on ruxxar so early it really feels like he shouldnt have then flipped later and started getting pissed at ruxx for not giving reads since that was like the basis of him dismissing my post.
He also keeps saying he will give townreads and POE and i havnt seen him attempt this yet.
Do you disagree at all about moosey?
Also about the card stuff I seem to remember (correct me if im wrong) you getting annoyed when you thought people weren't playing properly. Like i don't think any of this is allighnment indicitive butI remember you posting some preachy posts in the later stages of the game we were masons about how people should play properly. Why are you so relaxed this game like whats changed?
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On July 25 2015 14:19 Tictock wrote:
Damdred is... probably town? I don't know I am getting a weird feeling from him right now. My only game with him I was mafia and he was town so I'd rate my ability to read him as a "meh"
I kinda agree about Mossy, I'll get to my read of him a little later. I did give him a card earlier for a reason.
As for the Tarot... Well you should recall that I enjoyed batsnacks little I-ching read that game. I've been wanting to do something similar.
Mostly people decided to ignore it, which is possibly the correct response ^.^ It does kinda force me to stop, not that I ever intended to be that useless all game.
So Bre, tell me. Why do you seem so off this game?
Like, you don't seem to be trying very hard to get reads. The first half of the day you really only talked about ruXx or MD, now your suddenly jumping on board this Bara wagon (which I'm not sold on) and are giving away a town read on sulf for basically nothing.
Ok that makes sense I guess.
If you are comparing this to our mason game it isn't going to be the same, there i was more enthusiastic partly because i felt like i owed it to you. This phase is also over friday/saturday for me which is not good for me.
Was there much more to talk about? I'm fairly sure i also said i thought noobking was town. The bara wagon is good, even if it isn't I think bara is skilled enough to convince me/others that he is town so there isn't really much more to look into about him at the moment if he doesn't come back.
The sulf read might seem like nothing but tell me if he is mafia why does he put out an auto list. He even has said that he will discuss the reads when people ask. Like why does mafia do this especially when they are usually an inactive player. It just feels so out there that sulf as mafia with perfect imformation thinks to himself yeah i will put out a list where ive solved the game in my third post.
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On July 25 2015 14:37 Tictock wrote:
@ Bre
Struck me as odd that you ignored the nonsense I was doing with no comments, and yea just in general weren't really engaging a lot.
Based on your responses to me here I'm willing to shrug it off for the time being.
As for Sulf... He's really just floating doing his own thing?
This "auto" list seems somewhat towny, but it's timing is weird. Also his PoE list looks too much like the majority sentiment of the game right now. I could be wrong but especially after that last post about Bara I really have the sense he might just be trying to show effort without really doing anything.
I thought it might have been going somewhere i wasn't going to interrupt. Also if it didn't go somewhere and you continued that would have been good info as well.
How is the timing weird?
What did you expect him to have on bara though other than what is already out there. I wouldn't say it is scummy that he has no "new" things about bara if anything it is scummy that he chose to explain that read first and in so many words instead of just saying like "what rayn said was good" but i think it is possible that he thinks it wouldnt be appropriate giving that response.
Sulf can you explain your Noobking scumread, that is the one I am most interested in.
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Also general things like thread sentiment can be a bit meh like for example im scumeading moosey and bara. That is thread sentiment and ive taken less hard stances than sul did in that one post yet you havn't said you thought it was scummy that im following thread sentiment.
Yes i get that other than that point mine and sulfs play has been different but having that as one of the main things you don't like about him is very general and it is easy to scumread an inactive player for stuff like that.
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On July 25 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:
Like, if sulf had posted nothing else we policy lynch him... for sure.
Posting this auto-lynch concept and selling it could very well be a last ditch effort of doing "something".
I don't like it because a lot of my scum reads are in his town pile ^.^
Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well...
Then ask him specifically about those people?
You most recently asked him about damdred and flex and from what i can tell you agree with him that damdred is town so leave that for now and ask specifically about the reads you disagree with.. If sulf is town he wants to engage with people about his list and if it is a "las ditch effort" from a sulf mafia then it will be hard for him to back his list up with reasoning
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On July 26 2015 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still think Flexes is mafia.
There is no reason a townie would say "i am writing a reads post right now" if they are not doing so.
I find that impossible.
Like this game is pretty straightforward. People who do scummy things are usually scum. If someone thinks they themselves did a scummy thing they are scum. rofl. Saying you are doing something you actually aren't is a scummy thing.
Flexes is lying, as proven by the thread. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense for him to do that as mafia". It matters that no townie ever says they are DOING something they actually aren't.
Simple things are simple.
I want to lynch flexes more than moosey now.
Also i don't see why people assume that barakos scum mates would have known he was going to stop playing. If he was around to tell them he wouldnt be posting it is very likely he would have just posted in the thread instead.
I also like noobking even more now for his post on we should be looking for the most scummy people not the people most likely to bus because the later is stupid.
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On July 26 2015 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 19:49 Breshke wrote:
I also like noobking even more now for his post on we should be looking for the most scummy people not the people most likely to bus because the later is stupid. tbh this means nothing because he is strongly implying Barakos was bussed.
Mm I guess. I still liked the post.
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Hi I havn't forgotten about this game.
Anyone saying I am mafia because of inactivity is making a logical assumption even though the assumption is wrong.
I will be here in a couple hours. Soz m8's
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ticktok point 2 is flawed. What is wrong with sheeping? Especially when im sheeping the person who i basically sheeped last phase and we lynched scum.
Your meta on me i think is probably incorrect aswell.
But yeah im still not here so ignore this post
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I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions.
It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more.
On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.
That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up.
I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though.
Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.
It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary.
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On July 27 2015 22:10 Rels wrote:@Breshke Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 19:49 Breshke wrote:On July 26 2015 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still think Flexes is mafia.
There is no reason a townie would say "i am writing a reads post right now" if they are not doing so.
I find that impossible.
Like this game is pretty straightforward. People who do scummy things are usually scum. If someone thinks they themselves did a scummy thing they are scum. rofl. Saying you are doing something you actually aren't is a scummy thing.
Flexes is lying, as proven by the thread. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense for him to do that as mafia". It matters that no townie ever says they are DOING something they actually aren't.
Simple things are simple. I want to lynch flexes more than moosey now. Also i don't see why people assume that barakos scum mates would have known he was going to stop playing. If he was around to tell them he wouldnt be posting it is very likely he would have just posted in the thread instead. I also like noobking even more now for his post on we should be looking for the most scummy people not the people most likely to bus because the later is stupid. Q1 Reasons for lynching Flexes ?You had quite a few posts defending Sulfurus. See spoiler. + Show Spoiler +On July 25 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
Yeah sulfurus is town On July 25 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
Yeah sulfurus is town Reasoning? His like third? post in the game was him posting an auto list. On July 25 2015 14:28 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:19 Tictock wrote:
Damdred is... probably town? I don't know I am getting a weird feeling from him right now. My only game with him I was mafia and he was town so I'd rate my ability to read him as a "meh"
I kinda agree about Mossy, I'll get to my read of him a little later. I did give him a card earlier for a reason.
As for the Tarot... Well you should recall that I enjoyed batsnacks little I-ching read that game. I've been wanting to do something similar.
Mostly people decided to ignore it, which is possibly the correct response ^.^ It does kinda force me to stop, not that I ever intended to be that useless all game.
So Bre, tell me. Why do you seem so off this game?
Like, you don't seem to be trying very hard to get reads. The first half of the day you really only talked about ruXx or MD, now your suddenly jumping on board this Bara wagon (which I'm not sold on) and are giving away a town read on sulf for basically nothing. Ok that makes sense I guess. If you are comparing this to our mason game it isn't going to be the same, there i was more enthusiastic partly because i felt like i owed it to you. This phase is also over friday/saturday for me which is not good for me. Was there much more to talk about? I'm fairly sure i also said i thought noobking was town. The bara wagon is good, even if it isn't I think bara is skilled enough to convince me/others that he is town so there isn't really much more to look into about him at the moment if he doesn't come back. The sulf read might seem like nothing but tell me if he is mafia why does he put out an auto list. He even has said that he will discuss the reads when people ask. Like why does mafia do this especially when they are usually an inactive player. It just feels so out there that sulf as mafia with perfect imformation thinks to himself yeah i will put out a list where ive solved the game in my third post. On July 25 2015 14:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:37 Tictock wrote:
@ Bre
Struck me as odd that you ignored the nonsense I was doing with no comments, and yea just in general weren't really engaging a lot.
Based on your responses to me here I'm willing to shrug it off for the time being.
As for Sulf... He's really just floating doing his own thing?
This "auto" list seems somewhat towny, but it's timing is weird. Also his PoE list looks too much like the majority sentiment of the game right now. I could be wrong but especially after that last post about Bara I really have the sense he might just be trying to show effort without really doing anything. I thought it might have been going somewhere i wasn't going to interrupt. Also if it didn't go somewhere and you continued that would have been good info as well. How is the timing weird? What did you expect him to have on bara though other than what is already out there. I wouldn't say it is scummy that he has no "new" things about bara if anything it is scummy that he chose to explain that read first and in so many words instead of just saying like "what rayn said was good" but i think it is possible that he thinks it wouldnt be appropriate giving that response. Sulf can you explain your Noobking scumread, that is the one I am most interested in. On July 25 2015 14:49 Breshke wrote:
Also general things like thread sentiment can be a bit meh like for example im scumeading moosey and bara. That is thread sentiment and ive taken less hard stances than sul did in that one post yet you havn't said you thought it was scummy that im following thread sentiment.
Yes i get that other than that point mine and sulfs play has been different but having that as one of the main things you don't like about him is very general and it is easy to scumread an inactive player for stuff like that. On July 25 2015 15:01 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:
Like, if sulf had posted nothing else we policy lynch him... for sure.
Posting this auto-lynch concept and selling it could very well be a last ditch effort of doing "something".
I don't like it because a lot of my scum reads are in his town pile ^.^
Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well... Then ask him specifically about those people? You most recently asked him about damdred and flex and from what i can tell you agree with him that damdred is town so leave that for now and ask specifically about the reads you disagree with.. If sulf is town he wants to engage with people about his list and if it is a "las ditch effort" from a sulf mafia then it will be hard for him to back his list up with reasoning In particular, you adviced to ask Sulfurus for more infos on his list. Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 15:01 Breshke wrote:On July 25 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:
Like, if sulf had posted nothing else we policy lynch him... for sure.
Posting this auto-lynch concept and selling it could very well be a last ditch effort of doing "something".
I don't like it because a lot of my scum reads are in his town pile ^.^
Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well... Then ask him specifically about those people? Disformation did a few times and never got an answer. Q3 What do you think of that ?
I think i answered most of this in my last post but yeah the reason was a pure sheep of rayn. Like was that point not just super compelling to anyone else?
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first
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On July 28 2015 20:30 Rels wrote:
So I assume you think TT is town ?
I understand why you would think this but no. he is 3rd in my scumlist
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On July 28 2015 20:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more.
Want to see quotes on this.
This is awkward. He was actually "pressuring me so i would explain it more" So it was both. erm ignore i ever said that bit. #regrets
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On July 25 2015 01:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:28 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:
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A read from a sentence?
What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon?
The timing, his motivation, his meta?
A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for.
I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors.
The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life.
I read you clear as a book.
Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia. n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron. Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit. What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive. Town: Disformation. Rels. Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out? Damdred: - don't like opening post, forced. - tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain. Breshke: - Too many words, too emotional, overly-defensive. Moosy: - Explanation of my meta is contrived. - Says my town tone is glaringly obvious yet goes on to say he will suspect me hard. Lol you want my honest expectations of ruXxar? I think he's a shit player who can't give reads and who makes shitty arguments like this. He tunnels hard as hell and generates way too much spam for him to be worth as a townie. That's my honest interpretation of ruXxar. HOWEVER even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway. As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together. That's what I mean when I say I will "suspect you hard". It's not that I think that you're Mafia but that I'm going to make sure that if you are Mafia that I'll catch it and make sure you die. Want me to more brutally honest or does this suffice? Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion. On July 25 2015 01:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 00:52 ruXxar wrote:Also for moosy: You keep dodging rels question. I want an answer: On July 24 2015 22:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it. OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. What do you mean with "You might be onto something here Damdred" ? What are your thoughts on ruxxar ? Because I'm Mafia buddy. What other reason could there be? ~ ~ ~ Sure I'll give you an answer. I read you as slight town lean because you're being as useless as the other newbie game we were in where you were townie. Wrong question. I want you to answer this: On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it. OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. What do you mean with " You might be onto something here Damdred" ? Lol yeah you're shit. You ask for my honest opinion of you then spurn it when you dislike what you hear. Give me more bias buddy. Please disillusion yourself more. As for your question, Breshke didn't give a clear line of reasoning behind his argument against you which I attempted to make him explain through pressuring. His defense was decent and if you look at the posts between us, it resembled your typical two townie shit fight. So I managed to glean a town read off of that. That line in particular was meant to spark a reaction from Breshke and see what he did.
Thats the post rels so you can see for yourself that I was misrepresenting moosey there.
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On July 28 2015 20:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
I don't like this reasonning. Dude got replaced so I don't think the argument of "he didn't do what he said he will in his last post" is still good. Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:25 Breshke wrote:
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first You said two opposite things, which one is true ?
Yeah because i thought about it some more.
Okay so this is flexes last post.
On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 02:59 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes Yeah liked his first posts but he really needs to come back. i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread. i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished.
So IF he is town he actually has SOME stuff written at this stage. Then something (lets hope not serious) happens and he can no longer play. So he lets LS know that he can no longer play. There is no way he doesnt post what he had so far into the thread. Idk if this is OGI or what because im fairly sure flexes would have had to tell LS to replace out (considering the timing) so he would have posted what he had ya know.
So it makes sense if he is scum, actually had like nothing when he posted that was stalling and then had to go and because of that his slot has shat the bed because soctt can't defend specifically against this he has to instead be super townie which isn't really happening.
There is also the possibility that being new he lied as town and actually had nothing which would be unfortunate so im going to just ignore that scenario.
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On July 28 2015 20:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:40 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 20:35 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more.
Want to see quotes on this. This is awkward. He was actually "pressuring me so i would explain it more" So it was both. erm ignore i ever said that bit. #regrets Dude you're writing a fucking case on your fucking scum read, voted him just after, and you didn't fact checked your accusation ?? Plus it's not like it's lost on a big post! You have two accusations against Moosy: - him repeating "I am mafia" - him changing his story And now actually your second point is not true ? What do you think of him now then ?
Still mafia.
Yeah i fucked up, shit happens but he is still saing "im mafia" to dodge questions you yourself have pointed this out have you not?
Would you lynch moosey today over TT?
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On July 28 2015 20:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:49 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 20:43 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
I don't like this reasonning. Dude got replaced so I don't think the argument of "he didn't do what he said he will in his last post" is still good. On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
On July 28 2015 20:25 Breshke wrote:
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first You said two opposite things, which one is true ? Yeah because i thought about it some more. Okay so this is flexes last post. On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote:On July 25 2015 02:59 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes Yeah liked his first posts but he really needs to come back. i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread. i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished. So IF he is town he actually has SOME stuff written at this stage. Then something (lets hope not serious) happens and he can no longer play. So he lets LS know that he can no longer play. There is no way he doesnt post what he had so far into the thread. Idk if this is OGI or what because im fairly sure flexes would have had to tell LS to replace out (considering the timing) so he would have posted what he had ya know. So it makes sense if he is scum, actually had like nothing when he posted that was stalling and then had to go and because of that his slot has shat the bed because soctt can't defend specifically against this he has to instead be super townie which isn't really happening. There is also the possibility that being new he lied as town and actually had nothing which would be unfortunate so im going to just ignore that scenario. OK I get that it is possible. Don't think it's really scum indicative though. You didn't answer the second part. Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:43 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
On July 28 2015 20:25 Breshke wrote:
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first You said two opposite things, which one is true ?
Its that post. I thought about it more and changed my mind.
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On July 28 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:57 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 20:54 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:49 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 20:43 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
I don't like this reasonning. Dude got replaced so I don't think the argument of "he didn't do what he said he will in his last post" is still good. On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
On July 28 2015 20:25 Breshke wrote:
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first You said two opposite things, which one is true ? Yeah because i thought about it some more. Okay so this is flexes last post. On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote:On July 25 2015 02:59 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes Yeah liked his first posts but he really needs to come back. i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread. i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished. So IF he is town he actually has SOME stuff written at this stage. Then something (lets hope not serious) happens and he can no longer play. So he lets LS know that he can no longer play. There is no way he doesnt post what he had so far into the thread. Idk if this is OGI or what because im fairly sure flexes would have had to tell LS to replace out (considering the timing) so he would have posted what he had ya know. So it makes sense if he is scum, actually had like nothing when he posted that was stalling and then had to go and because of that his slot has shat the bed because soctt can't defend specifically against this he has to instead be super townie which isn't really happening. There is also the possibility that being new he lied as town and actually had nothing which would be unfortunate so im going to just ignore that scenario. OK I get that it is possible. Don't think it's really scum indicative though. You didn't answer the second part. On July 28 2015 20:43 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
On July 28 2015 20:25 Breshke wrote:
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first You said two opposite things, which one is true ? Its that post. I thought about it more and changed my mind. Then why are you not switching your vote if you're "kinda more sure on scott/flexes".
Because moosey's thing is DUMB and SCUMMY. This is a newbie game it is about learning. We are all going to learn to not do the "im mafiia" thing by voting moosey.
I realize how this sounds as I am typing it Rels sorry for the brain aneurysm you will get reading it.
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On July 28 2015 21:03 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 21:00 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:57 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 20:54 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:49 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 20:43 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
I don't like this reasonning. Dude got replaced so I don't think the argument of "he didn't do what he said he will in his last post" is still good. On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
On July 28 2015 20:25 Breshke wrote:
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first You said two opposite things, which one is true ? Yeah because i thought about it some more. Okay so this is flexes last post. On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote:On July 25 2015 02:59 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes Yeah liked his first posts but he really needs to come back. i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread. i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished. So IF he is town he actually has SOME stuff written at this stage. Then something (lets hope not serious) happens and he can no longer play. So he lets LS know that he can no longer play. There is no way he doesnt post what he had so far into the thread. Idk if this is OGI or what because im fairly sure flexes would have had to tell LS to replace out (considering the timing) so he would have posted what he had ya know. So it makes sense if he is scum, actually had like nothing when he posted that was stalling and then had to go and because of that his slot has shat the bed because soctt can't defend specifically against this he has to instead be super townie which isn't really happening. There is also the possibility that being new he lied as town and actually had nothing which would be unfortunate so im going to just ignore that scenario. OK I get that it is possible. Don't think it's really scum indicative though. You didn't answer the second part. On July 28 2015 20:43 Rels wrote:On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:
I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey.
On July 28 2015 20:25 Breshke wrote:
Im kinda more sure on scott/flexes but the moosey "im scum" thing is dumb AND scummy so lets lynch that guy first You said two opposite things, which one is true ? Its that post. I thought about it more and changed my mind. Then why are you not switching your vote if you're "kinda more sure on scott/flexes". Because moosey's thing is DUMB and SCUMMY. This is a newbie game it is about learning. We are all going to learn to not do the "im mafiia" thing by voting moosey. I realize how this sounds as I am typing it Rels sorry for the brain aneurysm you will get reading it. Yeah. 1 hour ago I was convinced TT was mafia. And now your posts are so suspicious. Will take a break to think about all this mess.
Nah talk to me this really isn't a mess. Even if you want to lynch me you have so many lynches it is fine.
Why do you think they are suspicious because you don't think I am making sense? Why is that scummy?
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On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked.
I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain.
Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet.
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On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB....
You literally havnt read my posts have you
On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary.
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On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar.
Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill.
Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that.
So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two.
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On July 28 2015 22:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:[quote] Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two. Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now.
Shame,
I very likely be here before deadline bye.
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On July 28 2015 22:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:[quote] Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two. Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now.
Also this is nosey talking to me like he thinks I'm town.
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TT is third on the list mainly because of POE.
Even if I am wrong about the RB who cares the world I was trying to discredit where they didn't RB is still wrong because they don't not RB if they want to claim RB themselves they RB their kill.
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Okay I'll be back in like two hours
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Can't sleep
Yeah would prefer if the confirmed were on this wagon aswell
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People need to relax this is a newbie gAme without a CC it is possible flexes lied AS TOWN and had nothing when he said he was writing his opinions on people and actually did return during the night.
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Damdred shh
What if moosey was playing scummy as shit to get checked because he is the GF
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On July 29 2015 09:13 disformation wrote:
So Breshke I have a hard time getting where your reads are currently.
Your #1 scum is still MoosyDoosy even with green check?
Your #2 scum was Flexes/Scott? You never really said so, but it is implied in your filter. What do you think of the claim?
Your #3 scum was TT.
Any scum reads other than these 3 now that TT has flipped town?
Any insights into some townreads other than the usual suspects/reasons?
Yes the greencheack doesn't change my read on moosey.
Scott is uncc'd cop, it will work itself out but he is very likely the cop.
TT was POE because i was looking outside the list of people that voted on bara. The only people left from that list are
Scott - Cop
Moosey - Scum
and ruxxar who i think is town. I see moosey says i flipped my read on ruxxar to match thread sentiment not really sure where he is getting that from?? I gave my reasons for flipping me read on ruxxar then there is also posts like this
On July 29 2015 02:46 ruXxar wrote:
Just a quick shout out.
My tinfoil hat senses are tingling.
If we have a medic I think they should out so we can lynch confirmed town rayn.
If medic doesn't claim today I will consider rayn 100% town for the rest of the game.
I just find that this would be so out there for scum to even be thinking about when they KNOW there was a veteran. I don't think scum ruxxar posts this.
Onto moosey.
On July 29 2015 10:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
smh this Day ruined my fucking mood. Tictock was such a townie I don't know how anyone saw otherwise. scott is still suspicious af, ruXxar is 9000+ town because he's still spewing garbage, Breshke needs to give a fuck, rayn needs a slap in the face, disinformation needs to help me out here because he's the only one making sense to me rite now.
This post is fake. Apprently he cared about the lynch but go back and look at his filter around that time or read EOD (im not going to quotee stuff because you need to see it in context.) Moosey did nothing to push the lynch either way. He was just in the thread.
On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure.
So he was so sure TT was town yet he still couldn't pick one way or the other. Like it just comes across as total bullshit.
On July 29 2015 10:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 10:28 disformation wrote:On July 29 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I made this looong post where I drew up lists from all the voting times, people on me and other townies, my blanket list from earlier, and Damdred's thoughts that we shouldn't lynch people on the Barakos wagon. The list of people I was left with was Tictock/Breshke/scott/Sulf/ruXxar/Mage.
I read Tictock as town, scott claimed, ruXxar is 9000+ town, leaving us Breshke/Sulf/Mage.
I can post the post which I made before everyone started flip flopping through votes like fish if you guys want to see it but I decided not to post it and see how things turned out. Either way, it looks like the list is still good to go and my thoughts were only further confirmed by this mislynch. got ninjaed. Yeah, breshke super shady right now.. all the PoE's lead to Mage somehow. Kinda waffly about Sulf atm. Seeing as how Tictock was VT and no one stepped forward against scott's claim, we're forced to believe him although I still find him suspicious. Breshke is very strange. His play is centered around forcing mislynches on people that do "weird shit". If I guessed his list it would be something like Barakos/MoosyDoosy/Tictock/ruXxar because Barakos was scum and the rest of us 3 did weird things. The only reason why he eventually moved off ruXxar was due to thread sentiment and he's still focused on me because some people's suspicion on me hasn't completely cleared away (l0l ruXxar). His continuous posts have only twisted my null read on him into a scum direction as well.
Then there's Sulfurus. I am very waffly about Sulf too because his play is nothing like when he was Mafia in the games he rolled Godfather twice but his posts are still strange. First of all, his overconfident play clashes terribly with his wrong list and I find it strange that he says that "Moosy still has to die before the game is over." So he's a null. As for Mage. I think this might be the next lynch. He comes a bit too late to wagons, follows thread sentiments, and I have a feeling he's been trying to pocket certain players (me for example). His reads are also a bit too confident like he already knows alignments. This is a fair lynch. As a note, my stance on him did change a bit suddenly due to his post near the end of D2 where Damdred seemed to have gotten the same vibe. So he's a scum lean. These are my thoughts.
Also the bolded makes little sence to me if anyone wants to try explain it. So he guesses who my scumlist is based on people who have been doing weird shit but he knows i townread ruxxar so why does he add him into the list anyway?
This think is all over the place but honestly look at mooseys reaction to the lynch and then what he was doing prior to the lynch it does not match up and a green cheack honestly doesn't mean anything at this point.
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Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop?
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Also rels i don't think you should be using the fact that some people unvoted scott straight after his cop claim to make them more townie. I don't really think that logic holds up.
I think a noobking + moosey scumteam makes sense until this "RB on Rels stuff" because mooseys answer was fairly different to what noobking was trying to say and you would think if they were scum partners with a QT they would have discussed in there what moosey should have replied with. Kinda don't want to go into this more until moosey flips though.
The only other person i think can be scum is NM really. Damdred has a good case on him like the fact that one of his top scumeads voted a wagon and basically sent it into majority should have gave him pause.
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On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info".
So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM
On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure.
Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit.
This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today.
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On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)".
On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.
Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi.
I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR?
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On July 30 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 11:28 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)". On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi. I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR? I trusted Damdred and my trust was well returned imo. I don't see what the problem exactly is here. And I didn't exactly see you around the lynch time either. In fact you haven't done much other than to drop by now and again to question me before leaving.
Im not saying I have been around if you wantto push me for that push me.
Why did you not mention that you very strongly thought scott was a PR when he was about to be lynched? Clearly damdred did not know this so why not tell him instead of blindly sheeping him.
You don't have tor espond to that moosey because I don't really see how you can explain it but basically your story does not check out at all.
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On July 30 2015 12:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 12:27 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:28 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)". On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi. I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR? I trusted Damdred and my trust was well returned imo. I don't see what the problem exactly is here. And I didn't exactly see you around the lynch time either. In fact you haven't done much other than to drop by now and again to question me before leaving. Im not saying I have been around if you wantto push me for that push me. Why did you not mention that you very strongly thought scott was a PR when he was about to be lynched? Clearly damdred did not know this so why not tell him instead of blindly sheeping him. You don't have tor espond to that moosey because I don't really see how you can explain it but basically your story does not check out at all. Damdred would only not know that if he did the same thing as you and didn't read the thread. I stated that scott could be a PR and others such as Rels did so as well. So there is no reason for you not to have read it. I first thought that scott was PR from what someone (I believe Rels?) said.
No stop. You said that the reason you understood noobkings reasoning on why he wouldnt roleblock rels was because "SCOTT WAS THE COP"
On July 30 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 05:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 05:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 05:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something. It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one. But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact. How about you go on and explain n00bkings statement on rels which you apparently had no problem understanding. There's no point in answering you unless someone asks the same question. On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:
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noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.
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Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. How about now? This won't make a difference because you'll use some form of confirmation bias but I'll give it a shot. n00bKing has been widely regarded as town until you two started piling shit on him after D2. No cop would and should waste a check on n00bKing because he is town. Also, it was able to be deduced that scott was cop for reasons that I stated before. n00bKing obviously didn't want to disclose this information so that Mafia would figure it out and he IN FACT warned me when I posted my reasoning for why scott should be town. However this ended up not mattering because Damdred made everyone pile votes on scott which made him role claim. ...Is that simple enough?
Stop trying to play it down now and say that you thought "scott could be a PR". You said you understood noobkings logic because you were able to deduce that scott was the cop. YET you still voted on "sheeping damdred" yet didnt mention the fact that you knew he "was the cop" when you did so.
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Also im not trying to push tmi you saying you knew scott was the cop I understand that you probably meant you knew scott was a PR
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On July 30 2015 13:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote:
Also im not trying to push tmi you saying you knew scott was the cop I understand that you probably meant you knew scott was a PR ...I actually said that we had a vigi. I never said anything about a cop... ... this is the 3rd time....
3 posts up i quoted a post where you said you knew scott was cop but if thats what you got from this well done.
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Moosey i honestly don't care if you thought there was a vigi or a cop like I said im not pushing this because its dumb and you trying to say it's a reason for you to be town is laughable.
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On July 30 2015 13:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 13:08 Breshke wrote:
Moosey i honestly don't care if you thought there was a vigi or a cop like I said im not pushing this because its dumb and you trying to say it's a reason for you to be town is laughable. ...that's post claim so obviously we knew scott was cop then. No, I'm not trying to claim town. I'm just pointing out how you're reading everything wrong.
Yes but you are talking about noobkings logic PRE CLAIM and why you understood what he was saying. So you did not know scott was the cop then. Honestly im not intrested in talking about this anymore because its dribble.
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Moosy please you were reffering to the fact that you understood what noobking was trying to say about why rels getting roleblocked doesnt make him scum. This was pre claim yet you still said you knew scott was cop???
Also the fact that you read me scum yet egt frustrated and give up when im trying to say you are scum makes no sense.
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Rels in isolation who do you think is scummier Moosey or Noobking?
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On July 30 2015 17:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 17:10 Breshke wrote:
Rels in isolation who do you think is scummier Moosey or Noobking? And you what do you think ?
Moosey. I think his play EoD2 is really damming given other things he has said.
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So the reason i asked Rels who he scumread more was because I think a team of Moosy and N00bking is kind of weird specifically because of how different moosys answer was about the Rels RB thing.
Someone said that noobking and NM are probably not a team but i dont reamember who? If someone could explain that it would be useful.
I think a team of Moosy and NM makes sence considering that scum Moosy would probably just push a town NM EOD2 instead of just sitting in the thread and sheeping a vote onto someone who he "knew was a PR". This could just be him not keeping a straight story but I want to lynch moosy first and when he flips scum ill probably want to lynch NM over Noobking but the game probably ends after all 3 are dead anyway so it doesn't really matter that much.
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On July 30 2015 23:04 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 22:58 Breshke wrote:
So the reason i asked Rels who he scumread more was because I think a team of Moosy and N00bking is kind of weird specifically because of how different moosys answer was about the Rels RB thing. Also if they both were mafia hardcore defending each other like this would be super bad play. I rather dislike MD for his recent posts, but will look at both their filters do determine who actually looks more scummy. Probably will axe them a few questions because I am not quite sure what really triggered the wave of bad posts. Though MD first saying he is trying to pocket/buddy all the town ppl and then proceeding to insult everyone is kinda... something. xD
When reading MD's filter try look at his EoD2 in the context that he apparently hard townread TT and was fairly certain scott was a PR.
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This game feels like shit now. I want to no lynch but I don't really see anyone else going for that.
I forgot sulf was still alive
Noobking don't post a town case on yourself it honestly won't convince anyone put more efforts in your two planned scum cases that will likely convince more people you are town.
Damdred I understand the reasons why you are saying noob is town but if he doesn't care why is he bothering to post at all its not like he is trying to drive a lynch it's literally just shitting up the thread.
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My maths is off I think ignore the no lynch forgot there would be a NK
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Sulf who is mafia with noobking?
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urgh noobking can you talk about why people are scum not why you are town like I don't want to lynch you today I want to lynch NM but not because of your town case because of damdreds reasons for calling NM scum. Towncases don't really do much if you arnt presenting an altenative lynch so the way i see it it is just better to push someone you think is scummy and people will hopefully read you town from that. Also some of your stuff is flawed IMO.
First of all scum rb'ing rels wouldnt have known he would become confirmed town from it that only happened because rayn blocked a shot. If rayn had died and even if he hadnt been VT it could have been theorised that Rels is lieing and the person who died got roleblocked. So there goes that theory.
Also I know what you are saying that a cop never admits who they are going to check. But there comes a stage when people break "the meta" and then do exactly what "noone does" hence you entire "rels wouldn't check me" stuff is extremely unconvincing and just because YOU think it is true doesn't really mean much.
Im still kinda hoping moosy flips scum and his partner wouldn't let them concede but that seems really doubtful and it is bumming me out
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But seriously noobking Rels is confirmed town you agree no? Move on you are going to disagree about this it isn't going to get you anywhere.
Can you answer this. If one of Sulf or NM flips town who is mafia?
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Ive never seen such a volatile newbie game in my life
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and ive seen like 7 newbie games
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I want to make it clear that Rels is never mafia anyone who even mentions it neds to explain why mafia don't roleblock anyone N1 its dumb as shit. Like they didnt know Rels would become confirmed town from it
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On July 31 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:Disfo you just said this: Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 22:42 disformation wrote:
Yeah. I think he is damaging town with withholding that information at this point because it makes him super suspicious and all that arguing about him is not helping town at all. -.-
If we pressure noobking with the fear of being lynched, and he's town, he has to give his info to play in accord of win condition. Won't you agree to do it ?
It isn't going to work Rels
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Don't get me wrong I agree with what you guys are doing but I am hesitant after moosey mod killing himself for like 0 reason.
Can someone confirm for me that we have 4 more mislynches until we lose I think that is right but i feel like it is way too many
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It is weird that sulf organised the "last 4 lynches" when if any of his people he listed are scum he would have 5? Easy oversight but still weird.
I'm honestly indifferent to a NM or Noobking lynch today.
Did anyne ever answer why people were saying they couldnt be mafia together?
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On July 31 2015 23:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 23:15 Breshke wrote:
Don't get me wrong I agree with what you guys are doing but I am hesitant after moosey mod killing himself for like 0 reason.
Can someone confirm for me that we have 4 more mislynches until we lose I think that is right but i feel like it is way too many Let's make the math together, assuming only mislynches. I removed moosy as a town member so right now we have: 7-2 (mislynch 1 + NK) 5-2 (mislynch 2 + NK) 3-2 <= LYLO So we can afford 2 mislynches.
okay i knew i was being dumb so its 3 not 4 before we lose thankyou
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On July 31 2015 23:16 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 23:13 disformation wrote:On July 31 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:Disfo you just said this: On July 31 2015 22:42 disformation wrote:
Yeah. I think he is damaging town with withholding that information at this point because it makes him super suspicious and all that arguing about him is not helping town at all. -.-
If we pressure noobking with the fear of being lynched, and he's town, he has to give his info to play in accord of win condition. Won't you agree to do it ? Well. Problem is: I do not know how much time I am going to have today evening. Might just miss EoD or be on phone EoD. So I am not rally down to play some switcheroo games today. =/ And it currently looks like he is going to be lynched anyway? Like NM has to vote him at this point (which is NAI). So it will be 5-4 with n00bKing probably getting to those votes first? I would be rather nervous in n00bKing's place already. Also I fear that he is town and thinks that he IS playing to his win-con. Brainstorm with me for a second disformation. You said before that you could sort of understand the play that n00bking was going for. Could you give me any suggestions for what he could possibly be hiding at this point and why he would so that?
There is literally nothing other than something OGi that would get himself plus someone else modkilled or something. I don't know if this makes him scum though.
from recent posts it seems very possible that if he is town he is stubborn and not really willing to see things from other peoples point of view so he could THINK he had something which doesnt actually matter
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On July 31 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 23:17 Breshke wrote:
It is weird that sulf organised the "last 4 lynches" when if any of his people he listed are scum he would have 5? Easy oversight but still weird.
I'm honestly indifferent to a NM or Noobking lynch today.
Did anyne ever answer why people were saying they couldnt be mafia together? No he's right on that, with two mislynches and two succesful lynches we win. On the NM + noobking team, I was having a hard time 'cause noobking said his two lynches were NM and Sulfu. And he's pushing NM right now.
Yeah was my bad, i knew 4 was too many
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that went well
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So I think sulf swapping his vote from noon to sulf is fairly townie
Also him clamouring to get votes switched back onto NM instead of noobking also feels townie but could be a cred play.
Still this makes him very likely town.
How long before EoD was mages last post?
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Damdred what's your scum read on me? Or is it poe
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On August 01 2015 09:33 scott31337 wrote:
NM's post was like two hours before EoD.
If he was here and noobking is town do you think he would have switched his vote to sulf?
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On August 01 2015 09:39 Damdred wrote:
It's just Poe at this point Breske honestly your posts today's ere pretty good and it upsets me if you are town that you waited so Kate to start playing.
However I'm reevaluating my Poe when I get home. My initial gut feeling is that I think,it's noob for a couple reasons.
Yeah I know I lose motivation really easily but i thought i picked it up last phase even if it was against moosy.
I don't really know who else it could be other than n00b tbh. Like after this most recent EoD I think it is unlikely it is sulf. I would probably want to lynch ruxxar before sulf because he couldnt get past the "withheld information" thing and it just reminded me of him tunneling on rsoul "defending trfel" in that other game even though she was scum there. But i don't even really think ruxxar is mafia.
So it just leaves me with noobking so I understand why people would have me in their scumlists.
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On August 01 2015 09:57 disformation wrote:Bah kinda tired.... So scott is conf. town. I won't lynch damdred. Need to look at ruXxar and Rels again, for tinfoil time, but last time I looked at them they looked pretty towny. Need to really look at EoD again for breshke and Sulfurus. If I remember right, n00bKing wanted to solve the game tonight, so I will wait and see what he has to offer. We are 7-1 right? Or rather 6-1 after this night?
Can we please talk about Rels for one second because people keep not thinking he is absically confirmed aswell.
So if mafia want to claim RB they don't have to not roleblock anyone they can just roleblock whoever they are killing. The plus side to this is if they shoot the veteran he dies and if they don't one of them can claim RB.
For rels to be mafia you need to explain why if theyw anted rels to claim that he got RB they chose to RB NOONE instead of roleblocking the person they were killing.
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On August 01 2015 10:39 Damdred wrote:
No stop it, you could very well end up in lylo or mylo with rels depending and you need to read him and assure yourself if he's town or not.
Atm if we get to 2-1 lylo its noob-rux-breshke in the final three imo. So we need to sort everything out on everyone
I don't think I understand what you are saying here but i don't think the final three would ever be me rux and noob?
Maybe you ment that is the next three lynches?
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On August 01 2015 14:23 scott31337 wrote:
Breshke who do you want to lynch tomorrow?
Noobking, as I said before I find it hard seeing anyone else as mafia.
If he flips town it is a hard decision between Ruxxar and sulf but I'd probably go Ruxxar. I feel like there is a lot of similarities with how focused he got with the noobking and moosy stuff compared with his other scum games where he acted similarly iirc.
But like rels and to an extent myself acted the same way so I find it hard to call it scummy you feel?
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Scott you are deffs being serious?
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Damdred if mafia can no shoot doesn't that normally mean we can't no lynch?
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Not really rels
Scott can be lying and still be the cop. People can do dumb/weird plays. Fact of the matter is with no cc On D3 Scott can lie all he wants so we lynch the person he wants and still be town.
He probs isn't lying anyway though so well played guys
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On August 02 2015 14:42 Rels wrote:
No idea. Just saying we shouldn't give Scott a pass if he lied about a red check. Especially since the only thing that saved him from lynch was the cop claim.
Nah you don't give him a pass you call him dumb and selfish if noobking flips green but really we probably lynch noobking anyway this phase so its a dumb thing to lie about IM NOT TRYING TO DISCREDIT EVERYTHING YOU SAY cos you had some nice reads this game deffs much better than mine really well done
Also noobking saying he was the main pusher on NM and damdreds push was shit and no one listened to it was fairly funny since the like only thing i said about NM was that i liked damdys case.
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I'm not sure why noobking didn't just concede
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Well play guys
@sulf about the low post count I'm not a shining example but just like damdred said be clear and concise and make your thought process clear.
You will probably still get lynched every now and then but as time goes on you'll get some players that know you better and the low posts becomes less of a "scummy" thing.
It also helps to have a terrible scum play
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Moosy if someone is tunnelling on you stop trying to convince them you are town and just start pushing someone you think is mafia.
Also never ever get yourself mod killed again on purpose like it ruins the spirit of the game
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On August 04 2015 09:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:37 Breshke wrote:
Moosy if someone is tunnelling on you stop trying to convince them you are town and just start pushing someone you think is mafia.
Also never ever get yourself mod killed again on purpose like it ruins the spirit of the game
I was trying to do that at some points but gave up later on lol. I also knew where this was going because I was actually very reasonable in our first game together but he refused to listen. In this one I just saved time and bashed him earlier.
Ruxxar is one player though so I don't see why you would stop pushing your reads because of him
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On August 04 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote:
Ty for the compliemtn rels lol.
However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb.
Amen
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On August 04 2015 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 23:33 Breshke wrote:On August 04 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote:
Ty for the compliemtn rels lol.
However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb. Amen I will never forgive you.
Yes you will. You just need more time
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