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On July 30 2015 04:38 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Oh, I was playing plenty smart. And while your Day 2 lynch target was godawfully wrong, I still bet mine (Sulfurus) was right on the money. And if you want to switch your lynch target to me, you'll still be godawfully wrong. And for the SAME (incredibly strong) reasons, too, which will be the most embarrassing part. You placed me in "totes Townpile" which you said was even better than Townpile! Then said you couldn't understand how anyone could scumread me. And then eventually you decided that maybe you had an association case for me and Ticktock. Yes, yes! Ticktock and n00b, that's the team! And then he flipped...Town. "n00bKing is Town, Town, Town, TOWN, Town!" "n00bKing is Scum with Ticktock!" [Ticktock flips Town] "Screw it, n00bKing is still Scum anyway!" Okay.
Don't forget that I'm your scummate. If you're gonna die I'm gonna die with you because there's no point. This town is not worth saving.
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On July 30 2015 04:22 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
That's fine, I'll never town-read you until you manage to explain it to me. Put yourself in my shoes. Why in the hell would I explain anything else to you, ever again? I've explained things and explained things, and explained things, and nothing ever penetrates. You just come back (EVERY time) with "Durrrr....I still don't understand!" So this is just another thing that I could explain until I'm blue in the face, and you'll either (by some miracle) still not get it, if you're Town, or pretend to not get it, if you're Scum. Moosy had the right attitude toward you all along. I'm ashamed that it took me longer to figure it out than it did for him. Remember when I said I wanted you to play in my 4th Newbie game, so my mind could be blown by the notion that someone who plays like you do could be listed as a "veteran" player? I changed my mind. Please do not participate in my 4th Newbie game. And Dear Mafia, Remember how I asked you to not kill me on Night 1, because it was my birthday? I changed my mind about that too. PLEASE kill me on Night 2.
This is some Appeal to Emotion if I have ever seen it - and to think you might ever die tonight or any night...
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On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this.
BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse.
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On July 30 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the town case on TT 10mins before the deadline explains it.
all the day he has been talking about making a big town case. He makes it when it does not matter any more.
lol, jesus, are there ANY players in this game that are NOT willing to tell blatant lies just to try and make their (mistaken) point? It was NOT 10 minutes before the deadline, it was 25 minutes before the deadline. Which was more than adequate, as nearly everyone was here to read it, digest it, and make a judgment.
And the reason I hadn't done it earlier is because until that point, it didn't look like it would be necessary! Scott had a runaway lead in the votes when I went to lunch. Only after his claim does Ticktock get into trouble again.
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scott you're the one on drugs if you think that was an appeal to emotion. I'm seriously disgusted by this town right now.
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You know what I fucking give up. rayn is tunneled on n00bKing, Rels and ruXxar are gonna sheep him, rayn's gonna force disformation into voting for n00bKing again, Sulf/Breshke/Mage where the Mafia is at are going to happily sheep the case, and the game will just go downhill from there.
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On July 30 2015 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
also his vote was on scott (un ccd cop). figure that put. damdred you are not stupid.
SO WAS YOURS. LOL
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Like literally the only chance this town is saved is if Damdred or disformation speak up because the rest of the town is dumb as fuck.
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On July 30 2015 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he literally does that after damdred says "we are not changing this, no mafia shenanigans"!.
if you know anything about mafia, you say shit when it's relevant, you do not try to change lynches 10min before the deadline if you have a chance to do that earlier.
Third time you've told the same lie.
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On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this.
The push on Rels is only bad if I'm Scum, and am burying Barakos. That's THE ONLY scenario where my case against Rels is something I should never, EVER be doing. Is if I'm Scum. But good news! Barakos flipped Red. And you're an idiot.
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On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse.
n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo.
I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day.
This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash.
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On July 30 2015 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iam sorry for the lynch. not really though, TT was awful.
noobking is mafia.
mark my words.
I don't know what to say if you really thought TT was Mafia. His reads were all wrong but his play was definitely townie play. There was actually no way to misread it.
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On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash.
I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something.
It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one.
But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact.
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On July 30 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something. It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one. But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact.
How about you go on and explain n00bkings statement on rels which you apparently had no problem understanding.
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Noob can you explain who you think is scum and why real fast
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On July 30 2015 05:00 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something. It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one. But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact. How about you go on and explain n00bkings statement on rels which you apparently had no problem understanding.
There's no point in answering you unless someone asks the same question.
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Can you explain noobkings statements on rels plesse
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So why is Nocturne scum?
I've re-read his filter, and his last post is -
On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote:
Just got home from work.
So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.
- why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke)
- one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up)
- Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation)
Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great.
Reading a few filters...
I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance...
Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny.
I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great."
And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure.
I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games.
He doesn't have a huge filter, but here he seems to be looking at the game in an attempt to figure it out - He also checked previous games and doing filter reading (Doing an LS thing) He also posted about "the scum thread" - if it's his first game and he's scum, was this a dumbtell?..hmmm
I mean, I want to have him kick it up a notch for sure, he just looks like a low posting townie.
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On July 30 2015 05:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 05:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something. It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one. But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact. How about you go on and explain n00bkings statement on rels which you apparently had no problem understanding. There's no point in answering you unless someone asks the same question.
On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:
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noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.
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Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part.
How about now?
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Scott, as town when your top scum read votes someone before you do. Do you become hesitant to lynch that person or just pile on.
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EPT
