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A little more on n00bking.
I don't like how n00bking is stuck trying to push the same case on rels over and over.
He complains about rayn being hung up over him calling his first post a throwaway post, yet he himself is completely obsessed with trying to hammer rels to death for an argument that he clearly explained his stance on.
He's trying to push scum on rels by taking his words and twisting their meaning so that they appear scummy.
I feel like rels adequately explained his stance, and I've seen town rels make these attacks on opening posts of people before, it's nothing new.
Something about n00bking is just a little bit off from the last game we played together.
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On July 26 2015 11:00 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 09:26 Tictock wrote:
As for potential scum bussing their partner. Bre, sulf, and Rels look to be the most likely bussers. You are EXACTLY RIGHT. I am now VERY interested to hear how you selected those 3 particular names, to see if you used precisely the same reasoning I did or not. (Note that "most likely bussers" and "most likely scum" are not exactly the same thing.)
What's the difference?
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On July 26 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:
n00bking:
He's been a little warm this game, a little too jokey.
I saw his early interaction with barakos and it felt too friendly If I've been warm and jokey, then I wasn't just too friendly with Barakos. I've been friendly with a lot of people. Except Rels. Fuck Rels. :D Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:
I see n00bking as this rational logic robot that picks apart people's reads when they don't make sense.
Instead of scrutinizing the reads that barakos made, he instead just scoffed it off and thought it was a joke Because it WAS a joke. Barakos AFK'd the rest of the Phase, so he never came back to confirm it. But ask him after the game is over. I bet he'll tell you it was a joke. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:
Just feeling that n00b is a little bit odd which is why i pegged him as a PR this game.
I just don't feel confident calling him confirmed town at this point. Again, probably shouldn't be trying to peg people as power roles... And it's fine that you're not confident calling me confirmed Town yet. I think there are several very good reasons for people to be Townreading me. I would not try to demand that anyone call me "confirmed Town." Like, those are big words, and should not be thrown around lightly.
I just find it really weird that you took the time to read his post, yet you didn't actually take the time to comment on the essence of his reads, instead you just gave fluff in response.
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@n00b:
Can you give me a simple list post with where you think people stand right now.
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I don't really know how to read sulfurus.
Like, he's playing completely different from my last game with him, which is why I'm hesistant to scum-read him but everything he says is just weird.
His post that supposedly shows how n00bking is scum is just so bad on so many levels I don't even know how it's supposed to convince anyone.
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On July 26 2015 11:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
To be honest, I'm getting a lot busier so I wouldn't mind if you all lynched me so that my obligation to this game is gone. So please wagon me on ruXxar so I can shove this mislynch in his face in our next game.
Are you going to do something or just cry your tears of pettiness for the rest of the game
Not only did you fail to vote, but you haven't given any reads this game.
How could you not have had an opinion on barakos all day when he has been up for lynch hmm?
How can you not have had an opinion on anyone else for that matter.
How about that reads list I've been requesting for 2 days now?
You're just reeking scum to me so yeah, go ahead and get lynched.
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On July 26 2015 12:24 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 11:36 ruXxar wrote:
I don't really know how to read sulfurus.
Like, he's playing completely different from my last game with him, which is why I'm hesistant to scum-read him but everything he says is just weird.
His post that supposedly shows how n00bking is scum is just so bad on so many levels I don't even know how it's supposed to convince anyone. You always call my posts bad. I'm supporting your reads and you're still calling it bad.
Doesn't matter if you support me if you're doing it for the wrong reasons.
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On July 26 2015 12:24 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 11:36 ruXxar wrote:
I don't really know how to read sulfurus.
Like, he's playing completely different from my last game with him, which is why I'm hesistant to scum-read him but everything he says is just weird.
His post that supposedly shows how n00bking is scum is just so bad on so many levels I don't even know how it's supposed to convince anyone. You always call my posts bad. I'm supporting your reads and you're still calling it bad.
Can you tell me exactly what your quoted posts are supposed to mean?
Pretend i'm a 5 year old and don't get it.
Can you write a little description about each linked post of why they are damning?
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On July 26 2015 13:49 Tictock wrote:
One thing I'd like to point out about that lynch...
Since Bara abandoned the thread very early and was also under suspicion rather early I think it is highly likely that his teammates bussed him, and possibly bussed him early.
It largely depends on how Bara actually exited the game, which is impossible for town to know. However if Bara gave up shortly after making his last post in the game he might very well have told his team to buss him for the towncred.
If Bara tried to plan with his team how they might get pressure off him and elsewhere, or if Bara left without talking to his team, then scum would have bussed him much later.
Either way I think it is very likely that at least one of the remaining scumteam was bussing Bara, possibly both.
It does seem less likely that scum lets their votes afk when they could easily grab some towncred for lynching their buddy. Not enough to clear MD or Flex though.
You take a wifom premise of "we don't know how Barakis exited the game" ( and who says he even exited the game?) and you turn it into "it's highly likely he got bussed early by his team mates."
I think this is a straw man argument at best tbh.
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Sulfurous brought up a curious point though, why did n00b switch his vote from rels to barakos when he thought rels was scummier?
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What rayn said just made too much sense.
Flexes has to be mafia.
Town doesn't go "I'm writing up a reads list" and then not post anything or do anything.
In general I want to lynch scummy afk people before scummy people.
If flexes doesn't get vigged tonight then he's auto lynch as rels said.
Cop should check one of moosy, tictock or n00b.
Remember that there is always a godfather in this setup so a green check does not automatically mean you are town.
Medic should absolutely save rayn. I don't care if another townie gets NKd, rayn is worth 2 townies++ at this point.
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On July 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote Sulfurus
He's probably Mafia Godfather tbh.
Reasons?
How about that reads list.
You're 0% invested in this game right now.
Do you even read the thread?
Why did you not vote?
Why did you not participate at all yesterday but instead focused on trash talking me?
I don't care what you think about me, but you've done nothing to help this game along.
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On July 27 2015 03:35 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 03:31 Rels wrote:
So what you said:
"Rels said his post didn't require thought".
"Rels said his post required thought".
Is not what happened.
The situation is:
"Rels said each remarks in his post didn't require thought" (in response to you BTW. The original case does NOT care if each separate remark are cut off thoughts or not)
"Rels said his post required thought 'cause there are remarks on three different subjects". I'm going to label this as "Rels having fun with semantics." And I am going to label it as "the 3rd time Rels has been forced to retcon a story, after there being 5 times he has contradicted himself."
?!!!
His story checks out.
Your grandiose witch hunt on this small little detail doesn't matter jack shit in the long run because what you want to look for is mafia motivation and not get hung up in small details like this that totally derail town productivity.
I can perfectly understand rels logic here and nothing in that argument is him contradicting himself.
Go look at the broader strokes of the game and try to discern mafia motivation from that, this topic of rels scum-read has been beaten to death and you're not going to convince me he's scum for it.
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Fuck me what have I done....
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@Moosy.
Why did you not vote yesterday?
Also, why did you not have an opinion on barakos.
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On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#9: NocturneMage - Might be a bit higher, if it didn't seem like he can't be paired with either of my highest scumreads. (Hooray for association cases!) Later posts do seem better, but some of the early posts are pretty damn unhelpful. Don't know who mentioned it, but he had a tendency early to just ask people questions about what they thought about someone else's stated opinion. These questions had predictable answers, that would probably be short and not generate much interesting discussion. Asking questions is good. But asking questions like that is bad, because they take up just as much space in your filter (so it looks like you're participating and being inquisitive) but it doesn't actually go anywhere. Happily engages in a worthless discussion about his experience in RL Mafia games, while failing to actually draw conclusions about what is going on.
That would be barakos confirmed scum:
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:
Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...
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On July 27 2015 05:47 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:27 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#9: NocturneMage - Might be a bit higher, if it didn't seem like he can't be paired with either of my highest scumreads. (Hooray for association cases!) Later posts do seem better, but some of the early posts are pretty damn unhelpful. Don't know who mentioned it, but he had a tendency early to just ask people questions about what they thought about someone else's stated opinion. These questions had predictable answers, that would probably be short and not generate much interesting discussion. Asking questions is good. But asking questions like that is bad, because they take up just as much space in your filter (so it looks like you're participating and being inquisitive) but it doesn't actually go anywhere. Happily engages in a worthless discussion about his experience in RL Mafia games, while failing to actually draw conclusions about what is going on.
That would be barakos confirmed scum: On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:
Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...
Interesting. Well then yeah, Barakos made a really good point about why Mage is suspicious! lol : \ Was Barakos in any trouble yet, at that point? Is it possible he was pushing Mage to make Mage look better if Barakos got lynched? Or was this all too early for that?
It was 1 hour after game start.
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Reminder to medic: Save rayn.
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On July 27 2015 06:44 n00bKing wrote:Dear Bad Guys, I know that the Mafia attacked me on Night 1 of Newbie 11, and that they attacked me on Night 2 of Newbie 12. So maybe you are thinking of attacking me tonight, too. But don't do it! Show nested quote +n00bKing wrote:having so much crossover in the player lists for the Newbie games is making it feel more like a "community" I guess. In the first game, I didn't know anyone so there wasn't anything to do but get down to business. I am also in a lighter mood because my move is finished (whereas it was in-progress during the first game, and I was busy unpacking all the time during the second game) and because my birthday is this weekend. w00t! Don't kill me on my birthday, you dicks! 
The chance you die tonight if you are town are pretty much 0% unless rels is scum and feels very pressured.
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Btw, I had a thought earlier...
My observation of n00b is that his play sort of fits with a veteran trying to take a mafia bullet for town.
So yeah, if n00b is a PR I think he's a veteran.
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