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So ruXxar....this is your golden chance to push a lynch on me. Why don't you do it?
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As an off question, why are you trusting Sulfurus so much Tictock? When I flip town what are you going to do? I doubt that you'll actually just roll over and die as described in Sulf's list.
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On July 27 2015 13:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote TickTack
He is either mafia or terrible.
His list is terrible.
I'd like a real case. I'd still rather lynch Sulfurus if I am to be honest.
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^ How would you know that???
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On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum.
Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on.
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Tictock is town. He's starting to post more and is actually doing work as he usually starts doing once D2 starts. I still expect more tho. However, his reads are all wrong and he needs to start from scratch because it's been a disaster for him since D1.
And to answer his question:
As for my evolution of reads on Breshke. While he has been having townie interactions with others, he’s been afk for far too long for me to enjoy having him in my townie circle. My primary fear is Mafia that is afk so that it’s almost impossible to read them. For now he is null due to his continued absence from the thread although if he posts or answers my questions I will be happy to re-evaluate.
If we indeed have a Vigi, then that leaves us a very dumb Vigi or a Vigi scott as someone stated before. This shortens our list to:
Sulf/Breshke/NocturneMage
Again, there's the possibility of a world with Illuminati so let's not all get so tunneled.
As a note, I am very surprised that Sulfurus rolled Mafia Godfather for the 3rd game in a row now. 
##Vote Sulfurus
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On July 27 2015 23:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on. Instead of being super aggressive all the time, could you answer this ? Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:16 Rels wrote:I read moosy's filter and I like it. Except this. On July 27 2015 04:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
@Moosy.
Why did you not vote yesterday?
Also, why did you not have an opinion on barakos. To be perfectly honest? Real life stuff. I woke up late and was busy taking my practice SAT2 Lit test then had to run to my SAT2 Physics class so I wasn’t around for the voting time. Still not an excuse since it was my fault I woke up late. Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard. When moosy and ruxxar did their fight, it was late in the first half of D1 and Barakos was not clearly the lynch, and even less "hammered into the ground". @MD: What post did you have in mind with this sentence, when you wanted to find another scumread than Barakos but got into a fight with ruxxar ? 'cause the posts I found were waaaay prior Barakos being the clear lynch.
Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard.
Everyone and their mothers was saying that Barakos was scummy af except for Tictock. If I posted my same read on him would that have achieved anything?
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On July 28 2015 00:00 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock is town. He's starting to post more and is actually doing work as he usually starts doing once D2 starts. I still expect more tho. However, his reads are all wrong and he needs to start from scratch because it's been a disaster for him since D1.
And to answer his question:
As for my evolution of reads on Breshke. While he has been having townie interactions with others, he’s been afk for far too long for me to enjoy having him in my townie circle. My primary fear is Mafia that is afk so that it’s almost impossible to read them. For now he is null due to his continued absence from the thread although if he posts or answers my questions I will be happy to re-evaluate. Show nested quote +Again, there's the possibility of a world with Illuminati so let's not all get so tunneled. Illuminati with respect to this game means....? Alright, so I'm a little more clear on the last part of why you'd lynch Breshke. Fair.
Prepare your tinfoil hats. Mafia may be one of the inner core of townies and have given us the slip. I doubt it but it happens.
On July 27 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 23:43 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on. Instead of being super aggressive all the time, could you answer this ? On July 27 2015 23:16 Rels wrote:I read moosy's filter and I like it. Except this. On July 27 2015 04:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
@Moosy.
Why did you not vote yesterday?
Also, why did you not have an opinion on barakos. To be perfectly honest? Real life stuff. I woke up late and was busy taking my practice SAT2 Lit test then had to run to my SAT2 Physics class so I wasn’t around for the voting time. Still not an excuse since it was my fault I woke up late. Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard. When moosy and ruxxar did their fight, it was late in the first half of D1 and Barakos was not clearly the lynch, and even less "hammered into the ground". @MD: What post did you have in mind with this sentence, when you wanted to find another scumread than Barakos but got into a fight with ruxxar ? 'cause the posts I found were waaaay prior Barakos being the clear lynch.
Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard.
Everyone and their mothers was saying that Barakos was scummy af except for Tictock. If I posted my same read on him would that have achieved anything? By "hammered to the ground" I understood "a lot of people voting for him". So actually you meant "a lot of people suspecting him" right ?
Correct.
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I'm disappointed in you all. I have nothing against Tictock. His D1 and N1 filter are trash as usual. D2 he's making decent cases against me although they're pointless because I'm town. I think he's town. He doesn't think I'm town. The idea that my lynch will show our alignment means nothing.
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On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
Quick post while on my meal break.
Sulf is actually looking less and less likely to be mafi here... His posting looks pretty similar to his town game in NSM X.
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon.
I think ruxx is town, and I've already stated my opinions on Moosy.
As for scott... Idk seems odd how he is just sheeping cases before he is done catching up with the game. I also would expect him to take more time trying to get a read on me. Scott has played with me more than anyone here and like Damdred he was in Holy Guardians where I managed to get Scott lynched in LyLo. I'd expect Scott to be able to read me better, or at least put some effort into trying to...
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff).
Now this is interesting. As I've explained, my reads on Breshke have been evolving due to his absence from a town lean to a null read. This might come in handy later on.
As for scott, I'm honestly not surprised by his play because he hasn't really posted in any of the games that I've been in with him. So he's a null for me.
It's interesting to see how people are reading Sulfurus but I'm a bit confused on this point.
Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea.
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btw rayn your vote is on Tictack and not Tictock.
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On July 28 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:
Alright I thought about it more. Only three teams are likely in my mind:
TT + NM
Moosy + scott
Moosy + NM
Even though I hated his "I am mafia" posts, I had a town feel for D1 for moosy. So for the moment my vote stay on TT.
I can switch to any of the other three, and will consolidate with my town reads if needed (rayn, Damdred, ruxxar, disfo, noobking).
...Your town feels should be from my N1 and not D1. D1 was me crushing ruXxar.
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On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet.
Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB....
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On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary.
I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar.
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On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two.
Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now.
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On July 28 2015 23:17 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:
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Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day...
And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.-
Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon...
Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.
Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...
Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me.
Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:
I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play:
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Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it.
He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:
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It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?
I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two. Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now. Also this is nosey talking to me like he thinks I'm town.
I talk to everyone the same way if you look at my filter lol. I find it helps to ingratiate yourself with people so that they feel more comfortable and slip.
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After looking through Breshke’s filter it looks like he’s focusing on people that do weird shit. For example he first focuses on ruXxar before changing his read due to thread sentiment and then begins to tackle me. He enters the thread again and is now trying to force a lynch on me on the basis of my “I’m Mafia” post. Then there’s Tictock who’s apparently “third on his list”.
If this is the case I’d like for him to explain the basis of his suspicion on Tictock.
I’d also like him to re-evaluate the basis of his reads. If he’s focusing solely on people that only do weird shit then he’s never going to catch Mafia and he’s going to get a ton of mislynches.
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On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:
Heres a fact:
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy.
TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today.
If TT flips Mafia, I am not town.
If TT flips town, I am not Mafia.
I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false.
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On July 29 2015 02:56 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:
Heres a fact:
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy.
TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia. I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false. If TT flips mafia you are town in my eyes. If TT flips town you could be either alignment.
He's going to flip town.
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