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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 27 2015 02:59 GMT
#1081
On July 27 2015 11:48 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:03 Tictock wrote:
@ Moosy

Care to explain this read evolution?

On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process.


On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.


On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.



I'm Mafia


Ok.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

Was a simple question, why try and dodge it like that?

yeah and I gave you a simple answer. I'm the Mafia. Nice catch.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 03:00 GMT
#1082
On July 27 2015 11:49 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:47 Tictock wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.


I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.


I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad"

But I'm pretty sure you know better than this...




Really now? How should I know better?


You really think scum, who know if there is a vet or not, would risk loosing their KP for the 1/10 chance that they can RB the cop? Especially when they are already down a person?

Doesn't make sense at all.

Also I'm pretty sure rayn was making a joke.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 03:04 GMT
#1083
On July 27 2015 11:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:47 Tictock wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.


I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.


I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad"

But I'm pretty sure you know better than this...




Allow me to explain why mafia doesn't RB their NK:

1) mafia are in a shitty position.
2) the list of good cop checks is fairly small.
3) if mafia allow the cop free checks 2-3 nights in a row they're in a terrible spot.
4) mafia priority #1 is to avoid cop checks. They get 2 shots at this by splitting the NK and the RB.
5) if their NK or RB target is the cop then great! If their NK target is the veteran then too bad. But they have to take that risk to win at this point.


Humm, ok I guess there is something to your thought process there.

Still seems like a very high risk/low reward move to me for mafia.

@rayn

Was that an actual claim?
I can take that responsibility.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 03:05 GMT
#1084
On July 27 2015 12:00 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:49 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:47 Tictock wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.


I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.


I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad"

But I'm pretty sure you know better than this...




Really now? How should I know better?


You really think scum, who know if there is a vet or not, would risk loosing their KP for the 1/10 chance that they can RB the cop? Especially when they are already down a person?

Doesn't make sense at all.

Also I'm pretty sure rayn was making a joke.


Really? You must be telepathic or something because there is no way I can read a joke out of that one sentence.
It makes 100% sense that he was the NK.

Or here's an idea:
What if he isn't the vet and was trying to bait mafia reactions to his claim, such as your reaction calling it a joke since you know it isn't true.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 03:12 GMT
#1085
Shoutout to everyone:

If you got a notification of being role blocked then you need to speak up.
You are confirmed town unless someone counter claims being role blocked.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 27 2015 03:20 GMT
#1086
I was not roleblocked.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 27 2015 03:28 GMT
#1087
Of course my claim is real.
Mafia knows the setup anyways from the beginning. There is no reason to lie.

Vigi got probably blocked or is dumb as fuck for not shooting or is scott.
Scott if you are the vigilante i suggest you claim.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 27 2015 03:30 GMT
#1088
Ohhh... maybe we have a doctor and i live for another night.
table for two on a tv tray
Sulfurus
Profile Joined May 2015
United States166 Posts
July 27 2015 03:33 GMT
#1089
On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote:
I did NOT get roleblocked last night.

And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check.


Who do you think are the last two mafia?


      My reads are pretty much the same as I listed them here.

      Now that Barakos is dead Moosy is next up.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 03:33 GMT
#1090
Unless you are counter-claiming against rayn nobody else should claim...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 03:35 GMT
#1091
Like why should any other role claim when we are in 10/2?

Ok I get it vet is a throwaway claim now if you already made use of your protection. You weren't getting lynched today anyways though so it doesn't actually help town.

Any other claim is just opening up to being RB'd forever with only minor info to town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 03:36 GMT
#1092
On July 27 2015 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ohhh... maybe we have a doctor and i live for another night.


Impossible.

This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:

A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 03:38 GMT
#1093
So if rayn is our vet there is no reason for our Vig or Doc to claim.

Much more useful for them to either use that shot or make more checks

Claiming will just mean you get RB'd from here on in.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 03:44 GMT
#1094
On July 27 2015 12:33 Sulfurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote:
I did NOT get roleblocked last night.

And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check.


Who do you think are the last two mafia?


      My reads are pretty much the same as I listed them here.

      Now that Barakos is dead Moosy is next up.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


Just FYI

If Mossy is actually mafia like I think he is... then you all have my permission to lynch me when I come up on Sul's PoE list.

Maybe scum!Sul puts Bara on that list to get the town cred.

No way does scum!Sul bus both his teammates in the first 2 days.
I can take that responsibility.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 27 2015 03:50 GMT
#1095
On July 27 2015 09:16 ruXxar wrote:
Same question for you n00bking, why make all the posts before the day post about "pls don't kill me scum"?
Did you seriously think you were getting NKed?

"all the posts" huh? It was ONE post. And I am not going to give you an answer about how likely I thought it was that I would be killed, or why I asked the Mafia to not kill me.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 27 2015 03:52 GMT
#1096
On July 27 2015 09:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 09:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On July 27 2015 09:16 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar let's not delve into that. That just gives scum more ideas and creates too many mindgames. And n00bKing has been killed on his first night for all his games except for the one before this.


This is an interesting post.
Did you think that n00bking had a high likelihood of getting NKed?

Same question for you n00bking, why make all the posts before the day post about "pls don't kill me scum"?
Did you seriously think you were getting NKed?

Let me explain this for you plainly.

I personally did not think n00bKing would be killed because Rels is not scum. And n00bKing's play was so centered around killing Rels that scum decided to best course would be to let him live.

On the other hand, n00bKing believes that he is correct about Rels. It is because of this that he thought he would die. Also because he has been killed for 66.66% on Night 1 for all of his games so far.

Actually, this doesn't mean much on second thought because we don't know who Doctor saved. Hm...I doubt it would have been n00bKing though.

Okay...good recovery, Moosy. Because there wouldn't be many ways for you to know that Scum decided to let me live, instead of me being saved.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 27 2015 03:58 GMT
#1097
On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote:
Nice save medic!

Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).

Guess Vigilante could also have been roleblocked. But yeah, Cop seems more likely. Then again, Doctor was more likely than Veteran, and we have a Veteran claim now, so you never know.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 27 2015 04:01 GMT
#1098
Vigilante was roleblocked or is Scott.
It's not a throwawqy claim BECAUSE MAFIA KNOWS THE SETUP. NOW TOWN ALSO KNOWS THE SETUP.

Tempted to lynch tictack because he is an idiot.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 27 2015 04:04 GMT
#1099
Like the veteran should 100% claim if there is no night kill noone can be that retarded they don't realize it.
table for two on a tv tray
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 27 2015 04:04 GMT
#1100
On July 27 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote:
Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.

Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre

Yeah, tough for anyone's reads to change too much when it's the same cast of characters still.

So, everyone ready to lynch Rels yet? :D
No?

##Vote: Sulfurus
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