On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am a veteran.
Not surprised at all. Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran. To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..
This is another thing that is likely, but not certain. Mafia didn't kill Kelsier on Night 1 of the last Newbie game because he was right about things YET. Mafia said they killed him because they were afraid he would figure everything out LATER. Could be the same case here with rayn, if he's a player of strong reputation.
On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote: Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?" I don't think mafia thinks like that.
*shrug* They probably do if they were in Newbie XII, which used a similar setup, and which contained a lot of discussion about how idiotic it would be for the Mafia to not roleblock their target, in a setup they know contains a Veteran. So assuming rayn's Vet claim is legit (obviously if there is another Vet or a Doctor out there somewhere, they should counter-claim him) then I think we either have: a Mafia team that is dumb, a Mafia team that wasn't in Newbie XII and just didn't think about it (and if they have a coach, the coach didn't bring it up either) or a Mafia team that decided to swing for the fences, because of the Day 1 result, as you hypothesized. I don't think that hypothesis is AS bad as Ticktock does. It's at least within the realm of possibility. Especially if they were reading rayn as Vanilla for some reason or other.
Yeah i havent been right yet. Good comparison. I just singlehandedly lynched mafia.
*sigh* The Barakos lynch is no longer relevant, when a Scum team is evaluating whether you are right about things YET. There's a reason why ruXxar went and dug up your night reads. If he's right that you were targeted for being "on point" then those are what matter, not the fact that you were part of the Barakos lynch.
First, rayn has claimed veteran. What I'm going to say is pretty obvious, but better safe than sorry.
That means he's 100% confirmed town starting now.
If you (reading this obvious but amazing post) are either the veteran or the doctor, that means rayn is mafia and has infinite town credits. If that is the case, you need to claim now.
And the follow up to this rule is:
If someone claims veteran or doctor after the end of this day, they should not be believed and automatically auto-lynched.
On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote: Nice save medic!
Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).
Guess Vigilante could also have been roleblocked. But yeah, Cop seems more likely. Then again, Doctor was more likely than Veteran, and we have a Veteran claim now, so you never know.
How the fuck was doctor more likely than a veteran?!?!?!?
Here's how:
Veteran is given to a townie at random. A medic save can be directed. The list of reasonable NK targets is smaller than all the players in the game. Therefore the chance that a medic saved a potential NK target is higher than mafia randomly hitting a veteran.
On July 27 2015 03:31 Rels wrote: So what you said: "Rels said his post didn't require thought". "Rels said his post required thought". Is not what happened.
The situation is: "Rels said each remarks in his post didn't require thought" (in response to you BTW. The original case does NOT care if each separate remark are cut off thoughts or not) "Rels said his post required thought 'cause there are remarks on three different subjects".
I'm going to label this as "Rels having fun with semantics."
And I am going to label it as "the 3rd time Rels has been forced to retcon a story, after there being 5 times he has contradicted himself."
LOL
Actually that makes me relieved, I'm now sure you're mafia 'cause no way townie behaves like that. (=
*eyeroll* Would love to see you try and explain how and why that isn't EXACTLY how a townie behaves. If you paid me 10 bucks to come up with a different reasonable reaction from a Town player, I'm not sure there IS one.
Don't have to look very far. Lying about me lying. Ad hominem attacks on me.
Accusing me of ad hominem is absurd. I attack your posts. Anything I say about your character can be freely discarded without it weakening my arguments against you one iota. And I am not lying about you lying. You're caught in a lie. And caught badly enough that you had to resort to a third retcon job.
Alright I hate how you play. You accuse me with arguments; I answer it with arguments; then you go around saying I lie as if what I said was worthless.
So I want you to do the following.
Describe very synthetically (1 sentence if possible) how I lied, without all the fluff that you usually post around it. Tomorrow I'll take the time to make a post explaining how you're wrong.
Amazingly, this may be the only post addressed to him he didn't answer. That is super suspicious.
So, noobking: please do what you were requested to. 1 sentence without fluff explaining my lie.
On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote: Nice save medic!
Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).
Guess Vigilante could also have been roleblocked. But yeah, Cop seems more likely. Then again, Doctor was more likely than Veteran, and we have a Veteran claim now, so you never know.
How the fuck was doctor more likely than a veteran?!?!?!?
Here's how:
Veteran is given to a townie at random. A medic save can be directed. The list of reasonable NK targets is smaller than all the players in the game. Therefore the chance that a medic saved a potential NK target is higher than mafia randomly hitting a veteran.
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote: A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
Why don't you like it when people answer questions directed at others?
Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking.
If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions.
On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote: Nice save medic!
Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).
Guess Vigilante could also have been roleblocked. But yeah, Cop seems more likely. Then again, Doctor was more likely than Veteran, and we have a Veteran claim now, so you never know.
How the fuck was doctor more likely than a veteran?!?!?!?
Here's how:
Veteran is given to a townie at random. A medic save can be directed. The list of reasonable NK targets is smaller than all the players in the game. Therefore the chance that a medic saved a potential NK target is higher than mafia randomly hitting a veteran.
At this point mafia have to work together. They absolutely do not want to lose another member at this point.
I feel like tic tictock and n00bking were the only ones to try and resist the Barakos lynch. They also both strongly suggested that Barakos was being bussed, which I think is the wrong conclusion. And they also have these weird interactions with each other where they mind meld on this bussing idea and other ideas.
I think there could be something going on here. Will check later
@moosy I would love to push you, but it feels almost too easy. I really don't like how you respond with "I'm mafia". I don't know why you're doing that if you're trying to get town read.
There's plenty of time to push you later after I considered everything else.
EPT
