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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 01:46 GMT
#1061
On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote:
I did NOT get roleblocked last night.

And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check.


Who do you think are the last two mafia?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 01:47 GMT
#1062
On July 27 2015 10:38 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote:
Nice save medic!

Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).

If there was a vet Mafia should have been roleblocking their NK (they know what setup we are in) to prevent the loss of their KP. So pretty much confirms that we have a medic.

Should not need to state this, but blues should continue to remain hidden. And ruxx, you need to stop trying to point out people who you think might have a role. How have you not learned this by now?

Welcome back Scott ^.^



Because n00bking is giving me all sorts of bad vibes and I'm trying to figure out why.
Something about n00bking is rubbing me in the wrong spot, like an ominous premonition that something is off.
I don't want to slander him without bringing evidence to the table so I'll put together my specific thoughts tomorrow.
Like I don't even want to say that it's directly scummy, it's just a really weird feeling I get from his play.

Also cop should out if he has a red check.


Eh, I suppose a cop with a redcheck could out, but I know I wouldn't. Shouldn't have to out just to push someone you know is mafia.

I'll be honest... I'm not sure if I care to dig through n00bs filter at this point to check if there is enough to break my townread on him. I've already seen all the back and forth between him and Rels and not much of it looked like it was worth following too closely.
I can take that responsibility.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 01:49 GMT
#1063
On July 27 2015 10:43 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote:
Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.

Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre

Scott taking over for Flex leaves him at pretty null, will need to see what he does today.

I want to relook at ruxx sometime today, he's all over the place ... for him though that's probably a town lean still.

The whole Rels and n00b thing is a mess. Both of them are talking in circles a lot and not getting anywhere while only really managing to spam up the thread. Overall seems to boil down to a town vs town struggle where neither wants to back down (also I'm pretty sure the main point of contention was that rels used VT and Town interchangeably...)

Pretty much sums up where I am atm


Who are your top town reads right now?
Also who do you think was medic saved?


Tictock can you give an ordered list of your town reads from most towns and least towny.

Also who you think was the attempted NK / medic save.

This is very important to me.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 01:51 GMT
#1064
Ebwop: most towny to least towny
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 27 2015 01:55 GMT
#1065
On July 27 2015 10:47 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:38 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote:
Nice save medic!

Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).

If there was a vet Mafia should have been roleblocking their NK (they know what setup we are in) to prevent the loss of their KP. So pretty much confirms that we have a medic.

Should not need to state this, but blues should continue to remain hidden. And ruxx, you need to stop trying to point out people who you think might have a role. How have you not learned this by now?

Welcome back Scott ^.^



Because n00bking is giving me all sorts of bad vibes and I'm trying to figure out why.
Something about n00bking is rubbing me in the wrong spot, like an ominous premonition that something is off.
I don't want to slander him without bringing evidence to the table so I'll put together my specific thoughts tomorrow.
Like I don't even want to say that it's directly scummy, it's just a really weird feeling I get from his play.

Also cop should out if he has a red check.


Eh, I suppose a cop with a redcheck could out, but I know I wouldn't. Shouldn't have to out just to push someone you know is mafia.

I'll be honest... I'm not sure if I care to dig through n00bs filter at this point to check if there is enough to break my townread on him. I've already seen all the back and forth between him and Rels and not much of it looked like it was worth following too closely.

This I agree with. As I've said a couple times now, Rels vs n00bKing is just your standard townie shitfest.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 01:57 GMT
#1066
On July 27 2015 10:49 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:43 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote:
Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.

Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre

Scott taking over for Flex leaves him at pretty null, will need to see what he does today.

I want to relook at ruxx sometime today, he's all over the place ... for him though that's probably a town lean still.

The whole Rels and n00b thing is a mess. Both of them are talking in circles a lot and not getting anywhere while only really managing to spam up the thread. Overall seems to boil down to a town vs town struggle where neither wants to back down (also I'm pretty sure the main point of contention was that rels used VT and Town interchangeably...)

Pretty much sums up where I am atm


Who are your top town reads right now?
Also who do you think was medic saved?


Tictock can you give an ordered list of your town reads from most towns and least towny.

Also who you think was the attempted NK / medic save.

This is very important to me.


Why does any of that matter? Especially asking for WIFOM about the NK...

Everyone I didn't call scum or null is town for me. Don't see a point in ranking them.
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 27 2015 01:59 GMT
#1067
Finding out who medic saved is very unimportant...
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 02:01 GMT
#1068
On July 27 2015 10:57 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:49 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:43 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote:
Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.

Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre

Scott taking over for Flex leaves him at pretty null, will need to see what he does today.

I want to relook at ruxx sometime today, he's all over the place ... for him though that's probably a town lean still.

The whole Rels and n00b thing is a mess. Both of them are talking in circles a lot and not getting anywhere while only really managing to spam up the thread. Overall seems to boil down to a town vs town struggle where neither wants to back down (also I'm pretty sure the main point of contention was that rels used VT and Town interchangeably...)

Pretty much sums up where I am atm


Who are your top town reads right now?
Also who do you think was medic saved?


Tictock can you give an ordered list of your town reads from most towns and least towny.

Also who you think was the attempted NK / medic save.

This is very important to me.


Why does any of that matter? Especially asking for WIFOM about the NK...

Everyone I didn't call scum or null is town for me. Don't see a point in ranking them.


Can you do it anyway to the best of your ability?
I would really really appreciate it.

Ordered town list and who you think the NK attempt was on please.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 02:03 GMT
#1069
@ Moosy

Care to explain this read evolution?

On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process.


On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.


On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.


I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 02:09 GMT
#1070
On July 27 2015 11:01 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 10:57 Tictock wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:49 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:43 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote:
Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.

Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre

Scott taking over for Flex leaves him at pretty null, will need to see what he does today.

I want to relook at ruxx sometime today, he's all over the place ... for him though that's probably a town lean still.

The whole Rels and n00b thing is a mess. Both of them are talking in circles a lot and not getting anywhere while only really managing to spam up the thread. Overall seems to boil down to a town vs town struggle where neither wants to back down (also I'm pretty sure the main point of contention was that rels used VT and Town interchangeably...)

Pretty much sums up where I am atm


Who are your top town reads right now?
Also who do you think was medic saved?


Tictock can you give an ordered list of your town reads from most towns and least towny.

Also who you think was the attempted NK / medic save.

This is very important to me.


Why does any of that matter? Especially asking for WIFOM about the NK...

Everyone I didn't call scum or null is town for me. Don't see a point in ranking them.


Can you do it anyway to the best of your ability?
I would really really appreciate it.

Ordered town list and who you think the NK attempt was on please.


Not discussing the NK.

Town list something like:
disinformation
raynpelikoneet
Damdred
NocturneMage
Rels
n00bKing
ruXxar







I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 27 2015 02:11 GMT
#1071
That's a nice find on moosey
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 27 2015 02:17 GMT
#1072
I am a veteran.
table for two on a tv tray
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 02:37 GMT
#1073
On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.

I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 27 2015 02:40 GMT
#1074
On July 27 2015 11:03 Tictock wrote:
@ Moosy

Care to explain this read evolution?

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process.


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.



I'm Mafia
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 02:42 GMT
#1075
On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to bed.
shoot Fexexs.
check tictactoe.

i think they are the last mafia.
i think moosy is not mafia.

be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM.
i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia.


Seems very likely that mafia are in this post.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 27 2015 02:46 GMT
#1076
I forgot to fix a error in the OP because the way I had votes work are different that what it said in the OP so it's fixed.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 02:47 GMT
#1077
On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.


I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.


I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad"

But I'm pretty sure you know better than this...


I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 27 2015 02:48 GMT
#1078
On July 27 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:03 Tictock wrote:
@ Moosy

Care to explain this read evolution?

On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process.


On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.


On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.



I'm Mafia


Ok.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

Was a simple question, why try and dodge it like that?
I can take that responsibility.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 02:49 GMT
#1079
On July 27 2015 11:47 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.


I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.


I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad"

But I'm pretty sure you know better than this...




Really now? How should I know better?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 27 2015 02:57 GMT
#1080
On July 27 2015 11:47 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:
On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.


I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.


I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad"

But I'm pretty sure you know better than this...




Allow me to explain why mafia doesn't RB their NK:

1) mafia are in a shitty position.
2) the list of good cop checks is fairly small.
3) if mafia allow the cop free checks 2-3 nights in a row they're in a terrible spot.
4) mafia priority #1 is to avoid cop checks. They get 2 shots at this by splitting the NK and the RB.
5) if their NK or RB target is the cop then great! If their NK target is the veteran then too bad. But they have to take that risk to win at this point.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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