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On July 26 2015 19:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like this is literally what you said. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 04:02 Tictock wrote:
My reads have been pretty clear all game even if it doesn't look like it, pretty much everyone I gave a card to when I first hopped in was a scum read or lean at that point
First 4 were my scummiest reads at the time.
NM and Flex had hardly posted anything at the time so I was hoping to get more from them.
Like whats so hard to understand?
I wanted to get reactions from those people to see if it would help me develop reads.
n00b flat out refusing was kinda null...
RuXx Semi playing into gave me a town lean on him.
Dis both suggesting the Hanged Man and asking for a card kinda just made me smile 
You attacking me for it was a scum lean. Plus I really don't like how you entered the game, but I've never really read any of your games. You might remember me asking Damdred about you.
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Nice save medic!
Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).
If there was a vet Mafia should have been roleblocking their NK (they know what setup we are in) to prevent the loss of their KP. So pretty much confirms that we have a medic.
Should not need to state this, but blues should continue to remain hidden. And ruxx, you need to stop trying to point out people who you think might have a role. How have you not learned this by now?
Welcome back Scott ^.^
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Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.
Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre
Scott taking over for Flex leaves him at pretty null, will need to see what he does today.
I want to relook at ruxx sometime today, he's all over the place ... for him though that's probably a town lean still.
The whole Rels and n00b thing is a mess. Both of them are talking in circles a lot and not getting anywhere while only really managing to spam up the thread. Overall seems to boil down to a town vs town struggle where neither wants to back down (also I'm pretty sure the main point of contention was that rels used VT and Town interchangeably...)
Pretty much sums up where I am atm
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On July 27 2015 10:38 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote:
Nice save medic!
Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).
If there was a vet Mafia should have been roleblocking their NK (they know what setup we are in) to prevent the loss of their KP. So pretty much confirms that we have a medic.
Should not need to state this, but blues should continue to remain hidden. And ruxx, you need to stop trying to point out people who you think might have a role. How have you not learned this by now?
Welcome back Scott ^.^
Because n00bking is giving me all sorts of bad vibes and I'm trying to figure out why. Something about n00bking is rubbing me in the wrong spot, like an ominous premonition that something is off. I don't want to slander him without bringing evidence to the table so I'll put together my specific thoughts tomorrow. Like I don't even want to say that it's directly scummy, it's just a really weird feeling I get from his play. Also cop should out if he has a red check.
Eh, I suppose a cop with a redcheck could out, but I know I wouldn't. Shouldn't have to out just to push someone you know is mafia.
I'll be honest... I'm not sure if I care to dig through n00bs filter at this point to check if there is enough to break my townread on him. I've already seen all the back and forth between him and Rels and not much of it looked like it was worth following too closely.
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On July 27 2015 10:49 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 10:43 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote:
Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.
Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre
Scott taking over for Flex leaves him at pretty null, will need to see what he does today.
I want to relook at ruxx sometime today, he's all over the place ... for him though that's probably a town lean still.
The whole Rels and n00b thing is a mess. Both of them are talking in circles a lot and not getting anywhere while only really managing to spam up the thread. Overall seems to boil down to a town vs town struggle where neither wants to back down (also I'm pretty sure the main point of contention was that rels used VT and Town interchangeably...)
Pretty much sums up where I am atm
Who are your top town reads right now? Also who do you think was medic saved? Tictock can you give an ordered list of your town reads from most towns and least towny. Also who you think was the attempted NK / medic save. This is very important to me.
Why does any of that matter? Especially asking for WIFOM about the NK...
Everyone I didn't call scum or null is town for me. Don't see a point in ranking them.
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@ Moosy
Care to explain this read evolution?
On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process.
On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.
On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.
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On July 27 2015 11:01 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 10:57 Tictock wrote:On July 27 2015 10:49 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 10:43 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote:
Need to do some re-reading but at the moment my reads haven't really changed.
Most Likely scum:
Moosy
Sulf
Bre
Scott taking over for Flex leaves him at pretty null, will need to see what he does today.
I want to relook at ruxx sometime today, he's all over the place ... for him though that's probably a town lean still.
The whole Rels and n00b thing is a mess. Both of them are talking in circles a lot and not getting anywhere while only really managing to spam up the thread. Overall seems to boil down to a town vs town struggle where neither wants to back down (also I'm pretty sure the main point of contention was that rels used VT and Town interchangeably...)
Pretty much sums up where I am atm
Who are your top town reads right now? Also who do you think was medic saved? Tictock can you give an ordered list of your town reads from most towns and least towny. Also who you think was the attempted NK / medic save. This is very important to me. Why does any of that matter? Especially asking for WIFOM about the NK... Everyone I didn't call scum or null is town for me. Don't see a point in ranking them. Can you do it anyway to the best of your ability? I would really really appreciate it. Ordered town list and who you think the NK attempt was on please.
Not discussing the NK.
Town list something like:
disinformation
raynpelikoneet
Damdred
NocturneMage
Rels
n00bKing
ruXxar
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On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:Not surprised at all. Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran. To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point.. Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?" I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.
I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad"
But I'm pretty sure you know better than this...
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On July 27 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 11:03 Tictock wrote:@ Moosy Care to explain this read evolution? On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process. On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.
On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. I'm Mafia
Ok.
##Vote: MoosyDoosy
Was a simple question, why try and dodge it like that?
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On July 27 2015 11:49 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 11:47 Tictock wrote:On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran. Not surprised at all. Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran. To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point.. Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?" I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you. I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad" But I'm pretty sure you know better than this... Really now? How should I know better?
You really think scum, who know if there is a vet or not, would risk loosing their KP for the 1/10 chance that they can RB the cop? Especially when they are already down a person?
Doesn't make sense at all.
Also I'm pretty sure rayn was making a joke.
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On July 27 2015 11:57 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 11:47 Tictock wrote:On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran. Not surprised at all. Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran. To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point.. Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?" I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you. I'm tempted to just write this off and say "God your bad" But I'm pretty sure you know better than this... Allow me to explain why mafia doesn't RB their NK: 1) mafia are in a shitty position. 2) the list of good cop checks is fairly small. 3) if mafia allow the cop free checks 2-3 nights in a row they're in a terrible spot. 4) mafia priority #1 is to avoid cop checks. They get 2 shots at this by splitting the NK and the RB. 5) if their NK or RB target is the cop then great! If their NK target is the veteran then too bad. But they have to take that risk to win at this point.
Humm, ok I guess there is something to your thought process there.
Still seems like a very high risk/low reward move to me for mafia.
@rayn
Was that an actual claim?
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Unless you are counter-claiming against rayn nobody else should claim...
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Like why should any other role claim when we are in 10/2?
Ok I get it vet is a throwaway claim now if you already made use of your protection. You weren't getting lynched today anyways though so it doesn't actually help town.
Any other claim is just opening up to being RB'd forever with only minor info to town.
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On July 27 2015 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ohhh... maybe we have a doctor and i live for another night.
Impossible.
This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:
A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
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So if rayn is our vet there is no reason for our Vig or Doc to claim.
Much more useful for them to either use that shot or make more checks
Claiming will just mean you get RB'd from here on in.
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On July 27 2015 12:33 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote:
I did NOT get roleblocked last night.
And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check. Who do you think are the last two mafia? My reads are pretty much the same as I listed them here. Now that Barakos is dead Moosy is next up. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy
Just FYI
If Mossy is actually mafia like I think he is... then you all have my permission to lynch me when I come up on Sul's PoE list.
Maybe scum!Sul puts Bara on that list to get the town cred.
No way does scum!Sul bus both his teammates in the first 2 days.
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On July 27 2015 13:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vigilante was roleblocked or is Scott.
It's not a throwawqy claim BECAUSE MAFIA KNOWS THE SETUP. NOW TOWN ALSO KNOWS THE SETUP.
Tempted to lynch tictack because he is an idiot.
Of course they know the setup... which is why I find it so weird that they did not RB their NK to avoid loosing their KP.
But w/e apparently that's what happened.
You were never getting lynched today, and of course your going to be killed tonight.
Thus your claim accomplishes nothing.
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On July 27 2015 13:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote TickTack
He is either mafia or terrible.
His list is terrible.
Thus: Mafia?
Think your still tunneled.
Fine, who's most likely my partner then?
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On July 27 2015 13:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
As an off question, why are you trusting Sulfurus so much Tictock? When I flip town what are you going to do? I doubt that you'll actually just roll over and die as described in Sulf's list.
Why should I trust you, your mafia remember?
Like why can you not answer a damned question without trying your trick from last game?
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On July 27 2015 13:22 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 12:38 Tictock wrote:
So if rayn is our vet there is no reason for our Vig or Doc to claim. Jesus, Ticktock. If rayn is our vet there can't BE a Doc. You JUST posted the setup roles, in the post before this one. lol Upgrading Ticktock from Town to DumbTown (which is even bettter).
Oh lol, I didn't see that.
Typo, I meant to write Cop.
Too many roll's being discussed and dyslexia kicked in.
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