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On July 25 2015 02:12 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 02:01 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 01:53 Damdred wrote:On July 25 2015 01:52 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 01:48 Damdred wrote:On July 25 2015 01:47 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 01:39 Damdred wrote:On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:
Initial reads before anything else happens
Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town.
And then my first weird feeling came from this post.
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This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early
Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:
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Ah, but my goal is clear and simple.
Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed.
When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts.
Am I scum, am I town?
As you judge me, I judge you.
A dead thread benefits no one.
Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:
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A read from a sentence?
What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon?
The timing, his motivation, his meta?
A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for.
I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors.
The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life.
I read you clear as a book.
Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. This is a general pocket post, it happened shrug. I'm not sure how I encouraged you to vote him? OK you're alright. (= how did I encourage you again I felt you pushed me to vote moosy with this post: On July 25 2015 00:50 Damdred wrote:On July 25 2015 00:46 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:Don't like moosy at all: To breshke: Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads. And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam To me: I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads Lynch with fire. I don't see any arguments in this "lynch-with-fire" case. Complete change in attitude about my play. To breshke: "Stop attacking ruxxar for not giving reads, he doesn't do that, it's our job to do that, it's his normal town meta.". To me: "You idiot, start making some reads" OK that makes sense. Waiting for his defense now. Actually, why do you need his defense in this situation to draw a conclusion? Past experience would show you usually come to your own conclusions in a proactive way instead of being somewhat passive That's not a call for a vote XD, that's asking for an explanation why you didn't draw your own conclusions. And that post was technically AFTER your vote That's not the point though, because when you wrote it you believed I didn't vote yet. Anyway I don't believe it means anything. Actually it matters a lot, you just said something that isn't true at all
What the fuck. I said I felt you encouraged me to vote him. Which is still how I feel BTW, I just feel it is not the big deal it was. It doesn't matter if you made the post in question before or after I voted, since when you wrote it you didn't know I voted.
I also thought I caught you on a slip and that you were passingly pushing moosy. This part is actually false since you had a reason to say he tried to pocket you.
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On July 25 2015 02:15 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 02:04 Rels wrote:
ruxxar why are you still attacking moosy when the "change in attitude" thing is not true ? Look here: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 12:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Either way, I think we can both agree that we'll have to see how ruXxar acts from here on out and judge from there. Which will be easy because I'll be suspecting him hard if he doesn't start posting a shit ton like he normally does. And I'm going to take an especially hard look at him for reasons I stated before. Show nested quote +Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads He says he is going to suspect me if I don't spam. And when I spam he says "stop spamming"?
First, he's not suspecting you.
Second, I think what he's saying is "post more useful stuff".
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On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes
Yeah liked his first posts but he really needs to come back.
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On July 25 2015 02:48 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy, you threw a lot of shit on me for not giving any reads.
Yet I can't find a single one of your reads besides me.
When are you going to contribute this game hmm?
What are your reads?
Interested in this too.
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On July 25 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Rels i thought Mooseguy is town for this post: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That's how i tend to post sometimes. Why explai neverything when you can force people into actually thinking why are posting the stuff you do? that, and his overall eagerness to read ruxxar and carefree attitude. Anyways i had some doubts later, but i am back to thinking he is town.
Yeah the attitude is why I townread now too. Plus he was the one inspiring me to do the useful list of useless people, as he called out sulfurus pretty early on.
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On July 25 2015 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you guys think Barakos is really reaction testing people when he specifically points a finger on me, when my reaction is to vote for him he has nothing to say about it?
No I think he's likely scum. But I gave him until tomorrow to post more stuff and convince me.
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On July 25 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:17 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you guys think Barakos is really reaction testing people when he specifically points a finger on me, when my reaction is to vote for him he has nothing to say about it? No I think he's likely scum. But I gave him until tomorrow to post more stuff and convince me. Why is that? He is clearly lying since he should be interested in what i said about him: - He kinda called me mafia as a part of his "reaction test" - He literally should expect a reaction (that results in a read or questions) from me - Three people called him mafia, me, you and Damdred - He gives a TOWNREAD on you two (yeah like if he is town why the fuck would you and Damdred be TOWN for calling out scummy stuff that a townie did? like if i was mafia i would totally jump on that - there is no reason to give you a townread for it in the first place) yet he has NOTHING to say about me, who HE called out in the first place. yeah that dude is scum.
Because when he said his post was scummy it implied that he was starting to make good posts. Which I want to see so we have something to discuss and we don't lock an auto Lynch for 24 hours.
Didn't think about this stuff about you though. I'll check tomorrow on a real computer if that is really that damning.
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On July 25 2015 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:23 disformation wrote:On July 25 2015 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
His post was scummy because he is scum. You sound pretty confident/convinced. Let me look at his filter for a moment. you don't even need to. you jsut need to look at the fact he SHOULD expect a reaction from me to his "reaction test". Yet he talks nothing about me after i VOTE for him. Like this is pretty straightforward.
Meh I will have to reread carefully but I'm pretty sure he said it was a reaction test for those playing in newbie X.
Which I still think is bullshit, but I'm not sure you not being included in the reaction test where you were included in the post is relevant.
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On July 25 2015 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:26 Rels wrote:
Because when he said his post was scummy it implied that he was starting to make good posts. Which I want to see so we have something to discuss and we don't lock an auto Lynch for 24 hours.
I do not understand this line of thinking Rels. Why would you give a pass to a person who is likely to be mafia, just because he promises to "make better posts"? It makes no sense at all. What is your thought process here? Do you think alot of townie stuff somehow cancels scummy stuff? Because it really doesn't. Mafia does townie things (usually mostly) and then they do scummy things. If someone does scummy things they cannot reasonably explain when questioned they are probably mafia, whatever the other things they have done are.
Alright the crystal clear version: I want his filter to be bigger if we lynch him.
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On July 25 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:31 Rels wrote:
Meh I will have to reread carefully but I'm pretty sure he said it was a reaction test for those playing in newbie X.
Okay let's imagine this is the case. None of those people have played with me. Why would he, if that was the case, EVER bring up my opening post (which was btw the first post in the game - it literally means nothing whatever i post unless i claim something) and later on say it was a PART of the reaction test? Unless he wants a reaction from me? People who haven't played with me cannot possibly know how i open up my games (if that even mattered; see above).
Meh maybe. I think the argument of the reaction test being a lie is much stronger.
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On July 25 2015 03:58 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you.
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host.
So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. All of this seems terrible. 1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there? 2) As has been mentioned, it doesn't make any sense to say that these three things add up to a "prepared post" when two of them are reactions to things that happened after the game began. So you changed gears and said that by "prepared post" you mean he thought about it a lot before posting, rather than meaning he prepared it before the game began. That explanation is hard to believe from you, because that's NOT how the term "prepared post" is used. It looks like you're changing your story after it's been pointed out that what you said can't be true. 3) Even if you DID mean "thought about it a lot before posting" from the get-go, how does it take a lot of thought to make either the second or third comments? Why are those not immediate off-the-cuff remarks, where he just put his thoughts to the page as soon as he had them?
Mate you can disagree with my post but the way you attack me is uncalled for.
Point 1 is useless.
Point 2 in particular is a whole lot of nothing, i used prepared post to mean he prepared his post before posting it.
Point 3 should have been the only content of your post. I can understand why you think its not scum indicative when I do.
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On July 25 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:
1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there?
Point 1 is useless. No it isn't. How do you actually get that impression?
I used vt to say townie.
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On July 25 2015 04:38 Tictock wrote:Most of my reads will have to come later tonight when I have decent time, besides much like reading tarot reading people can often be an interesting battle of interpretations. This causes the read to change and flow as new elements are discovered. For now... Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Alright here I go. On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you. RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer. ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game. Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host. So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone. He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die. Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. Tell me of your experience with real life mafia. My curiosity is peaked. I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party. What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? So, ##Vote NocturneMage@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread. I find it very interesting that Rels decided to dedicate his entire opening to attack another players opening. The entire time I was reading his idea about Noc giving us a forced opening post I'm thinking "what a forced read on someone this is" Rels even mentions Show nested quote +
Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.
But why does that not apply to his opening post as well?
So are you reaching a conclusion, or asking a question ?
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Sorry to give so short answers but I'm with friends and I just check this topic from my phone when I can. I'll reread all tomorrow.
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On July 25 2015 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:45 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:
1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there?
Point 1 is useless. No it isn't. How do you actually get that impression? I used vt to say townie. why would you do that, they are definitely a different thing.
I got nothing.
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On July 25 2015 05:59 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 03:58 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you.
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host.
So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. All of this seems terrible. 1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there? 2) As has been mentioned, it doesn't make any sense to say that these three things add up to a "prepared post" when two of them are reactions to things that happened after the game began. So you changed gears and said that by "prepared post" you mean he thought about it a lot before posting, rather than meaning he prepared it before the game began. That explanation is hard to believe from you, because that's NOT how the term "prepared post" is used. It looks like you're changing your story after it's been pointed out that what you said can't be true. 3) Even if you DID mean "thought about it a lot before posting" from the get-go, how does it take a lot of thought to make either the second or third comments? Why are those not immediate off-the-cuff remarks, where he just put his thoughts to the page as soon as he had them? Mate you can disagree with my post but the way you attack me is uncalled for. Well you're probably not going to like this post any better then... Well whose fault is that? You're the one who made the observation that he is claiming VT, not me. If the point is useless, I blame you for raising it. You have since said that you accidentally used "VT" to just mean "Town." If that were true, then I don't know why you mentioned it at all. There's no point in calling attention to someone claiming Town, when players claiming Town is so commonplace. This looks to me like ANOTHER instance of you changing your story after the fact, once someone has pointed out that what you originally said is nonsense. Show nested quote +
Point 2 in particular is a whole lot of nothing, i used prepared post to mean he prepared his post before posting it
So you say. Show nested quote +
Point 3 should have been the only content of your post. I can understand why you think its not scum indicative when I do.
YOU ARE MISREPRESENTING MY POSITION. Read it again. I did not only say that his remarks are not scum indicative. That would be an extremely subjective opinion, that you would be perfectly free to disagree with. Rather, I asked you to explain how those posts show that there was forethought behind them. Why are those not just off-the-cuff remarks, where he put his thought to the page as soon as he had them? I didn't tell you that what you think happened is NAI. I told you that I want evidence that what you think happened actually happened at all. Here, I'll help you focus. ##Unvote
##Vote: Rels
OK noobking. You are forcing my action into your narrative.
Either way I can't deal with that on my phone so you'll have to wait tomorrow for that focus. Good night 
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Alright here I go. I have a lot of things to say.
Let's begin with the beginning. As promised I re evaluated Barakos. Well, that was easy since he didn't post since yesterday.
In particular, I checked rayn's additional accusation to my and Damdred's case, and it's true rayn was the second people to call Barakos mafia; but Barakos always forgot him on his townreads, only calling Damdred and I town.
I still do not think it's the strongest point against him though rayn sry, this bullshit about reaction test is much worse IMO.
Pretty convinced he's scum.
##Vote Barakos
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Now I'll cover the accusation against me. I'll try to not do the same as newbie XI where I covered the thread with pages of defense. Actually thinking about it could it be what mafia wanted ... meh we'll see later.
On July 25 2015 04:38 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +
Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.
But why does that not apply to his opening post as well?
Because it has nothing to do with him being newbie. The fact is he prepared his post before posting.
Now I'll let you analyze that fact as newbie indicative if that is your wish. For my part I think it's scum indicative.
And you didn't answer the fucking question.
On July 25 2015 04:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:38 Tictock wrote:Most of my reads will have to come later tonight when I have decent time, besides much like reading tarot reading people can often be an interesting battle of interpretations. This causes the read to change and flow as new elements are discovered. For now... On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Alright here I go. On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you. RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer. ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game. Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host. So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone. He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die. Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. Tell me of your experience with real life mafia. My curiosity is peaked. I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party. What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? So, ##Vote NocturneMage@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread. I find it very interesting that Rels decided to dedicate his entire opening to attack another players opening. The entire time I was reading his idea about Noc giving us a forced opening post I'm thinking "what a forced read on someone this is" Rels even mentions
Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.
But why does that not apply to his opening post as well? So when are you reaching a conclusion or asking me a question ?
(edited the question a bit so it's clearer)
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Still reading to see if noobking has made other posts about me. And wow ruxxar is really pushing for my no-lynch. To the point where it's fucking weird.
On July 25 2015 06:42 ruXxar wrote:
No one is fucking lynching rels or dis formation today.
Over my dead body.
If you want to lynch rels then lynch me first.
That's all I got to say.
On July 25 2015 06:45 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 06:42 Damdred wrote:
Ruxxor you just town read me and now say I'm scum what are you doing I'm saying your tone is flip flopping all over the place. Angry damdred = town. Mellow damdred = scum. And that rels lynch is never happening. Just forget about it.
There were no posts talking about me between those 3 minutes.
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If you're mafia that will make you happy: I cursed out loudly reading this post and woke up my GF.
On July 25 2015 07:14 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 06:53 n00bKing wrote:On July 25 2015 06:38 disformation wrote:
1) This one Okay. I guess I don't see that read on you as being "wonky." It's just WEAK. So again, I would expect Town Barakos to be able to give us better analysis on a preferred lynch target, and to do a better job of defending himself, based on prior examples of his Town play. If that doesn't happen, then he'll stay in the group of players (that also includes Sulfurus and Rels) that I would be perfectly happy to punt out of the game on Day 1. we are not lynching rels 100%. Oh? Is there any reason why you think Rels might be Town? I don't see one, from viewing your filter.
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