Newbie Student Mafia XIII - Page 18

On July 31 2015 23:13 disformation wrote:


Well. Problem is: I do not know how much time I am going to have today evening. Might just miss EoD or be on phone EoD. So I am not rally down to play some switcheroo games today. =/
And it currently looks like he is going to be lynched anyway? Like NM has to vote him at this point (which is NAI). So it will be 5-4 with n00bKing probably getting to those votes first? I would be rather nervous in n00bKing's place already.

Also I fear that he is town and thinks that he IS playing to his win-con.

On July 31 2015 23:16 ruXxar wrote:


Brainstorm with me for a second disformation.
You said before that you could sort of understand the play that n00bking was going for.

Could you give me any suggestions for what he could possibly be hiding at this point and why he would so that?

On July 31 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:

No he's right on that, with two mislynches and two succesful lynches we win.

On the NM + noobking team, I was having a hard time 'cause noobking said his two lynches were NM and Sulfu. And he's pushing NM right now.

On July 31 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:
What does it mean when your hardest scum read is trying to bury another person?

a) the attacked person is likely town
b) the attacked person is likely mafia.

Let me know when you figure it out.

On July 31 2015 23:29 disformation wrote:


That was before Damdred reminded me that no one CCed the RB on scott today.
Was thinking along the lines of n00bKing being a PR or having a super strong PR read on someone and going for the incredible greedy play of getting one more check in so he can out scott + his partner as the mafia team. And of course he doesn't want to tell so mafia can't just block/rb the true PR.
But yeah that whole stuff makes little sense... maybe he wants mafia to think he knows something and force mafia to shoot him?

On July 31 2015 23:32 Rels wrote:

I don't think he thinks I'm scum anymore so I don't see the problem.

On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote:

Oh FFS. Seriously? Someone pleeeease counterclaim this block, or something.

Then you don't understand how thinking works. In what world does Mafia Flexes think you are a Vigilante, and roleblock you because he's afraid that you're going to do EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WERE THE VIGILANTE?? And in what world does Mafia n00bKing think that you are a Cop, and roleblock you because he's afraid that you're going to do EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WERE THE COP?? If the roleblock goes uncountered, then you're right on the edge of being completely confirmed Town. And yet you're STILL actively playing against the Town's win condition, by putting forth reasoning like this, and setting the stage for a mislynch on me.

Actually, for me to ignore your scummy request is not suspicious at all. For you to MAKE your scummy request, that is what's suspicious. As I said, you're right on the cusp of being confirmed Town. But continue to push things that have EXCLUSIVELY scum motivation. Why would a Town player EVER ask me to cut the explanation of your lie down to 1 sentence, when I have already so thoroughly explained it through the use of more sentences? You're asking me to intentionally use poor communication, instead of good communication. If that's not scummy, nothing is, because it invites my words to be misinterpreted, or worse.

You want a 1 sentence explanation of how I know with absolute certainty that you lied? Looks like this:

You said that he thought long and hard before making the post, instead of being free of mind and just posting what he felt, and then said that you never said his remarks required thought, and admitted that his remarks are off-the-cuff instant reactions.

There you go. Your positions are incompatible with one another. And you could have admitted that you made a mistake instead of telling the lie, or you could have tried to say that it only looks like a lie because you changed your mind. But you never did. You only stood by the lie, and defended the lie.

Now, IF you are Town, then start talking like someone who at least has SOME minimal amount of interest in achieving the Town's win condition. And if you CAN'T help me achieve the Town's win condition, then at the very least, GET OUT OF THE WAY.

On July 31 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
I agree his read change of me was weird. And I think everybody knows how bad I found his constant pushing of me. But now he's town reading me (I think), so I have no problem with him pushing NM.

On July 31 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:

When asked about his lynch list he didn't put me in.

On July 31 2015 23:53 Rels wrote:

You are saying noobking is scumreading me but didn't put me in his lynch list.

Confirm ?

On July 31 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:

So don't affirm he's scum reading me when he didn't state he did.

On July 31 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:

So don't affirm he's scum reading me when he didn't state he did.

On July 29 2015 03:54 n00bKing wrote:

This occurred to me as well, but it's getting pretty deep into tinfoil hat territory. Also, if they didn't turn in a roleblock it might mean they didn't get any actions turned in at all. And instead of rayn being the target of the attack, there just wasn't an attack. I think this is only possible if Flexes is Rels' teammate. If Flexes ever flips Town, this possibility is pretty much wiped out. But if Flexes flips Red, I'm going to have to remember where I keep my tinfoil hat, and Rels is back on the menu. Maybe.

On August 01 2015 00:08 Rels wrote:
OK then attack his reasons to town read me. I agree his switch on me seems to be based on the rb only.

BUT your orginal accusation was that it was weird that:
- noobking scumread me
- noobking scumread someone I've pushed

The first part is not true, so you should drop it.

Now if you want to do a post detailling exactly how his read on me is not logical, go ahead.

On July 31 2015 17:37 n00bKing wrote:
REASONS TO THINK N00BKING IS TOWN

Like I said, ONE post. And I expect this will be the LAST time I compose any defense of myself. It'll take some hard work for anyone to come up with a NEW justification for how I can be scum, that isn't addressed in this post. So, since this could be the LAST time you see me defending myself, please read carefully.

ruXxar, Rels, Scott, Sulfurus (whomever among you is Town)...let's see what kinds of responses you can muster. And if you find portions that can't be answered to, consider what that means.

On August 01 2015 00:17 Rels wrote:

He didn't mention me when asked about his lynch list.

Maybe he doesn't townread me, but he's not scumreading me in his posts. Maybe he does in his head but I don't think you can prove that.